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Jeff Loria pulled another Jeff Loria move

Aug 26, 2013, 8:23 AM EDT

Jeffrey Loria, Julie Loria

This is several days old but I had missed it until I saw Jeff Passan mention it in his latest column.  The original report is from Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. It shockingly involves Jeff Loria being a petty jerk.

Recall that Tino Martinez resigned as the Marlins hitting coach last month following accusations by some players that he was verbally and physically abusive. Spencer reports that this sat poorly with Loria, who personally hired Martinez. Flash forward to last week when Placido Polanco went to the disabled list. The Marlins front office and coaching staff were unanimous in wanting the team to call up infielder Chris Valaika — who had been hitting like crazy in New Orleans — to to replace Polanco.

Except Valaika was one of the players who had complained about Martinez’s behavior. So, out of spite, Loria personally overruled his baseball people and ordered Gil Velazquez to be called up.

Passan’s column notes that it’s possible that Loria may force out team presidents David Samson and Larry Beinfest. Who, when they’re not being forced to be Loria’s lapdogs are actually pretty good at assembling baseball talent. His team, his prerogative.

But why anyone would choose to work for that guy and how anyone can root for that team while he still owns it is an utter mystery to me.

  1. kane337 - Aug 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    I wish MLB could force this clown to sell the team.

    • jeffbbf - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

      Hmmm…Valaika is hitting .239 at NO with a .623 OPS. In the PCL. Hitting like crazy? And, he’s 28. Not exactly your hot prospect. Now, ole Gil is 33, but he is a natural 3Bman, which is the position Polanco had been playing with the Marlins. I’m no Loria fan, and I wouldn’t doubt there was some spite involved, but let’s get our facts straight and on the table before codemning this as another “Loria move”

  2. 4d3fect - Aug 26, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    OG, I think we’ll just hand this over to you…

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      Oh gee thanks, do you mind if I go put on my rubber gloves first?

      First of all, I don’t see the Chihuahua taking any falls here. His job is to generate money, manage Scrooge McLoria’s investments and run other aspects of the operation. He’s not a baseball guy, even though he does like to swagger his little pint sized frame around the clubhouse as if daring the athletes therein to skwish him like the puffing cockaroach that he is. He became the lightning rod for the disastrous deal that inflicted Macondo Banana Massacre Field upon this community for (a) being the messenger who delivered Scrooge McLoria’s package of lies and misrepresentations about the Feeshes finances to the city and county commissions and then (b) literally calling them idiots, and in so many words – “whereupon he laughed at them for fools,” you might say, right Unk? – for falling for it. Those comments drew some serious ire even from the public servants who survived the mainly stadium-inspired recall massacre through which the voters expressed their appreciation for being so royally screwed by their elected representatives. There are still public services requiring cooperation between the Feesh and the ceety/county which could become highly problematic if your number two (heh, heh) makes public comments like the Shihuahua made. I suspect he has simply been turfed upstairs or down the hall until the stink of the season blows over, and/or the much rumored quietly ongoing federal investigation of the entire fiasco comes to some kind of conclusion. That, plus he knows too much about Scrooge McLoria – cue the old “I can’t fire my accountant” line.

      As far as Beinfest, that’s harder to say. Passan really has it in for Scrooge McLoria (like I’m one to talk, right?) so I’m not quite ready to assume that he’s being objective about in what kind of hot water the baseball operations chief finds himself these days. The season has in some ways gone better than anticipated thanks especially to El Keed. One need only imagine how much interest this team would have drawn with a struggling Iron Giant without the young marquee Cuban exile to stir the hearts of the first and second generation diaspora dinosaurs.

      Did Valaika and Derek Dietrich really get punished for turning on Martinez or is something else going on? Dietrich surely was getting solved by opposing peetchers faster than he was adjusting, so Martinez or not he was probably due to revisit the farm anyway. I’d want to look at Valaika’s service time issues before drawing any conclusion – Scrooge McLoria is indeed a corrupt, lying, self-inflated bloodsucker to beat the band but so far as I can tell he’s also a bottom-line guy first underneath the excremental accretions that comprise the rest of his personality.

      • stex52 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:58 AM

        I don’t know what people expect from Loria. He was an art dealer. That’s rich people talk for “Swindler.”

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

        Tex, you don’t know the half of it. Go look up his two ghostwritten art books on Amazon, especially the Peanuts book. A hundred pages of limping drivel passing for commentary on Peanuts “philosophy” culminating in a book jacket advertisement for his sale of signed Charles Schultz art cells.

      • apkyletexas - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

        @Gator – what’s funny is that, despite all your very valid complaints, you STILL have 2 Rings in the past 16 seasons. Which is vastly more than anyone but the Yanks, Sawx, Giants and Cards if I am counting correctly.

        So, despite having one of the worst ownership groups in sports history, most of the rest of us morons are still looking with envy at your club’s rich recent history.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

        http://www.deadbrain.com/images/a/DennisSaddam.jpg

      • Kevin S. - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

        The ownership group can’t really take credit for those rings, though. The first one was Huinzanga (sp?), while the foundation of the second championship team was basically built under the Henry group.

      • jwbiii - Aug 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

        Valaika’s service time: 89 days coming into this season, 116 for this season, so 1.023. Not close to gaining any sort of Super 2 status.

        he is out of options and off the 40 man roster, so that may have been a consideration. If he stays in New Orleans, he’ll be a minor league free agent.

      • apkyletexas - Aug 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        @Kevin S – I’m not saying their ownership group is enviable – quite the opposite.

        I’m saying their recent additions to their trophy case are still nice and shiny, while my Pirates’ trophies are getting pretty old and rusty. Two of our trophies are from 1909 and 1925 — the layers of dust are about a foot high by now.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM

        apky: I’m pulling for your Bucs this year, largely because everything I’ve read about Andrew McCutchen makes him sound like one hell of a human being as well as one hell of a ballplayer.

        However, it was ten years ago – I said ten – that the last “shiny” new trophy got put in the Feesh’s display case, and it still had Dave Dombrowski’s fingerprints all over it. The fact that somewhere else something was once a lot longer ago doesn’t shrink that tenner by one relativistic light year’s worth of seconds. Folks keep bringing up those two championships – usually, unaware that Scrooge McLoria’s input into the last one was maybe a ten percent share of the glory at most, and that entire ten percent consisted of signing Pudge off the scrapheap. Regardless, despite it being just a wee bit early for the mahogony bases of those trophies to begin mineralizing, the glory days are ancient history. Reminding Feesh fans about them does nothing to chasten our abasement.

  3. stex52 - Aug 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    You know, the Astros may be terrible. They may be in a multi-year rebuild that is still unclear on the outcome. The owner may have come across in interviews as more than a little of a jerk, and they may have totally wrecked their cable broadcast package.

    But at least it is an organization that is trying to win. And they strive to be professional in their conduct of business.

    My profound sympathies, Gator.

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      I don’t want your pity. However, you may feel free to send cash.

      • paperlions - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:27 AM

        Pragmatism at its best.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM

        Cornell West and William James got nuthin’ on me.

  4. chill1184 - Aug 26, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    Even Alderson is allowed to do his job, so far

  5. jfk69 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    That’s Seligs buddy. So nothing surprises me. After this year..One clown gone. One to go.

    • Cris E - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM

      So if Bud really retires will this change things for Jeff? How much threat is there to him from other owners? As long as his moves don’t tick off the union to the point of action or draw fire from the feds they’re probably OK with having the Potterville Nine out there to make anything they do look less horrible.

      • historiophiliac - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM

        Also, easy wins.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        Probably not. It would take the ongoing criminal investigations of the stadium deal coming up with serious dirt on Scrooge before anyone felt any need to act, and it’s by no means certain that he’s ever done anything except fool a bunch of very stupid and corrupt local politicians. True, not many of the other owners like him, and just about none of the other team execs can stand the sight of the Chihuahua. Even so, the best way to deal with him is the way Hank Steinbrenner is going about it – get the team below the luxury tax threshold and choke of Scrooge’s largesse line. If he found himself in the red, he’d ditch the team so fast there wouldn’t be time to order champagne.

      • Kevin S. - Aug 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

        Unfortunately, the luxury tax is not the main form of revenue sharing. They can only starve him out by redoing the formula, probably to include some form of soft salary floor.

      • Old Gator - Aug 27, 2013 at 8:57 AM

        How twoo, how twoo. Deep pile carpet would be best but I’d be good with cushioned linoleum. Nice and springy under the tumtytumtoes, you know?

        A lot of owners have expressed their irritation with Scrooge and other franchises that sit there and take and don’t put the money back into their teams. I wonder if Hank Steinbrenner will take the lead in enforcing some sort of recalibration of revenue sharing when the new commissioner, whoever he is, replaces the reanimated corpse occupying the position now.

    • daveitsgood - Aug 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      Lew Wolff is Selig’s old College/Frat buddy – Look how he treats him. If that’s how Selig treats a buddy, I’d hate to see how he treats an enemy **A cough Rod**

  6. mungman69 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    If Miami isn’t there, who do the Mets beat?

    • number42is1 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      uhhh… not the Marlins… they are 5-10 against them this year and basically 500 against them since 1993

  7. myopinionisrighterthanyours - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    How’s the old saying go? “Two Douche moves do not make a right.” How this guy would be allowed to own a McDonalds franchise, much less an MLB team, is beyond me.

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:42 AM

      Look at the sodium and other horrible chemicals in a Big Mac (not including androstenidione) and it will make a lot more sense to you.

  8. deathmonkey41 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    I hear he’s trying to obtain NBC so that he can have Gator’s posts on HBT deleted.

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      Wait till my book Plan Nine from Montreal is done and he has to play Mayor Daley to my Mike Royko….

      • stex52 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM

        I like the title, anyway.

      • historiophiliac - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM

        That’s a name I haven’t seen in a minute.

  9. commonsenseisnotcmonman - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Simple answer: He’s got money. I know this is crazy, but people who are wealthy can get away with a lot of stuff just by throwing money at it.
    The Marlins are just a microcosm of what society will/will not do when money and opportunity are flashed in your face.

  10. steve7921 - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    If it were my team and Tino was my guy, I would assign Valaika the duties of ball-picker-upper for the whole major league team and then he could continue his hitting tear in the majors!!

  11. historiophiliac - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    It’s not business; it’s personal.

    • historiophiliac - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

      Dear Harpy:

      I think you’re pathetic, but thanks so much for making your day about giving me hate. I appreciate the hate kisses and how important I am to you.

      L

  12. eagles512 - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    I don’t mind this decision for once. Sounds like that kid is a baby.

  13. waiverclaim - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    When an owner gets involved with player personnel moves that directly effect a teams ability to win, MLB + the MLBPA should get involved with removing said owner.

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      They won’t. They’re all getting fat and won’t do anything dramatic to upset the equilibrium.

  14. kingjoe1 - Aug 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    The issue with Marlins are far less than a whole lot of other teams. Simply because Loria won’t suck the media teet they seem to make him out to be a horrible owner. The Marlins have a great stock of young talent that far out shines teams like Philadelphia and NY Mets. The project he won’t keep talent as they age is hearsay and does not preclude them from winning world series. IN addition that is common for many other, far less successful clubs.

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      Before you go postulating theories about the Feesh based on apparently knowing nothing about the history of this team and especially about this ownership group, you really, really ought to read up on the long history of team dismantlings, of trading away terrific players (does the name “Miggy” mean anything to you?) for “promising young prospects” who never panned out (Cameron Maybin? Andrew Miller? And now it looks like Rob Brantley has become the latest high profile washout). This isn’t “hearsay,” it’s a Poor Richard’s quality projection based on a long history of doing exactly that – unloading good ballplayers as soon as they reached arbitration eligibility or entered their walk years.

      You should also know, before you starting flinging stereotypes around, that the Feesh, for all of their failings, happen to have a pretty good relationship with the local media. The reporters like the ballplayers and vice-versa, Mike Redmond gets along just fine with print and broadcast reporters, and even Scrooge McLoria makes himself available when he needs to unburden himself of another back-patting discourse on how important winning is to him. Apropos this thread, the Chihuahua used to appear (if you can apply that word to radio) on the Dan LeBatard spawrts torque program a couple of times a week to talk Feesh and old movies but Scrooge McLoria told him to desist while the firestorm about his snide remarks concerning the limited intelligence of Macondo politicians was raging. He hasn’t been back since.

  15. leftfield1977 - Aug 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    The whole Biogenesis witch hunt was started by Bud Selig as a distraction to people wanting the head of Loria, after the Toronto trade, he figures if the drama builds from this, his Loria can lie under the radar and he would not have to investigate in his dealings. Selig has a way with ignoring his owner cronies, underhanded affairs, and I wouldn’t put it past him nominatiing Loria as his replacement.

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 1:16 PM

      Boy, talk about coming out of left field. We’ll just ignore your Bufogenesis theory and suggest instead that you go study the path of the magic bullet on November 22, 1963.

      Bud doesn’t appoint his successor. The owners vote on him. Scrooge McLoria is immensely unpopular amongst them and doesn’t have a creamsicle’s chance in a Macondo July of being elected. And that’s too bad, because then he’d have to give up his interest in the Feesh.

      Ah well. One may dream.

  16. jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Marlins fan until I die.

    Craig, enjoy the Braves blowing it again.

    Sincerely,
    One more world title, no division titles :-)

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      Until you’re actually disconnected from the respirator, or just until you’re finally diagnosed as brain dead? That might have happened some months ago.

      Braves franchise titles:

      World Series titles (3) 1995 · 1957 · 1914 – that counts three, one more than the Feesh, right?

      NL Pennants (17) 1999 · 1996 · 1995 · 1992 · 1991 · 1958 · 1957 · 1948 · 1914 · 1898 · 1897 · 1893 · 1892 · 1891 · 1883 · 1878 · 1877 (that makes 17 league championships, 17 more than the Feesh have.)

      East Division titles (11) 2005 · 2004 · 2003 · 2002 · 2001 · 2000 · 1999 · 1998 · 1997 · 1996 · 1995 (That makes eleven during the time the Feesh have been around, eleven more than the Feesh have.)

      West Division titles (5) 1993 · 1992 · 1991 · 1982 · 1969 (Grapefruits and apples – no comparison.)

      Wild card berths (2) 2012 · 2010: exactly as many as the Feesh have.

      Go back to third grade and learn how to count. You won’t need more than your fingers and toes.

      • sadunc - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM

        But the Brave have been around for over 135 years! Marlins 20, apples and oranges and fingers and toes please…

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

        I was talking about since the inception of the Marlins into the National League. But then again, we both know, you knew exactly what I was talking about. Anything to defend your butt buddy and to root on your favorite team, the Atlanta Braves

      • Old Gator - Aug 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM

        Okay, I can see your point – you say nothing about your parameters and expect everyone else to understand what you mean anyway. Fair enough – I’ll extend a handicap based on your lack of communications skills:

        World Series championships – two versus one. OK.

        League championships: three for Braves, two for Feesh. Advantage, Braves.

        Division championships: Eleven for the Braves. Feesh: none. Advantage? You need just one more finger to work that out.

        But now if we’re going to be fair, according to your arbitrary standards, let’s look at the flip side of the equation for the same period:

        Last place finishes: Feesh six (not counting this season); Braves – zero.

        Now shall we have some fun and add the number of times the Expos finished last once Scrooge McLoria got his clammy paws on them?

        Or would you rather just play this game with annual attendance figures – including, for example, how many games you’ve been to versus how many games I’ve been to, Mister Superfan? I promise you you won’t like the way the numbers come up – even if I don’t count the years when I owned season seats.

  17. Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Correction: on the league championships, nine more than the Feesh have, and fifteen more division championships than the Feesh have.

    Edit function!….sigh

  18. amuccigr - Aug 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Samson’s good at assembling baseball talent? OK.

  19. misterj167 - Aug 26, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Being good for a year or two is easier is far far easier than being consistently good year in and year out, particularly in this day and age. Even ignoring the division titles, just going over .500 every year is an incredible achievement. The Braves pretty much from 1991 on, the Orioles from 1960-1980, the Cardinals, pretty much forever. These are more impressive accomplishments than winning a World Series.

    As always, I never count the Yankees. Their money has always set them apart.

    • misterj167 - Aug 26, 2013 at 2:30 PM

      Being good for a year or two is far far easier…

      edit function!

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

      Um, no. It’s not. The list of teams that have multiple titles since the Marlins inception is a pretty short and certainly distinguished list in baseball history. I know everyone here loves to take shots at the Marlins and Loria but there are vastly worst owners in baseball and the Marlins have previously had vastly worst owners no matter how Gator will try to frame a ridiculous argument in retort. I just acknowledge that he is a typing parrot and move on

      • misterj167 - Aug 26, 2013 at 11:37 PM

        Um, yes it is. How many different teams have even finished above .500 for ten or more consecutive years at any time in their history? How many different teams have won multiple World Series? I’ll wager the first number is much lower than the second. If I have the time I’ll research it.

        More specifically, how many different teams won their division or got to the postseason 14 years in a row? The Braves are the only team I can think of. Even the Yankees never did that. That there’s more parity now as far as World Series go has nothing to do with playing consistently over a long period of time.

        The Marlins finished over .500 only six times in their 21-year history, and never more than three years in a row. They have never won their division, either, playoff expansion allowed them to get into the postseason in the first place. The Braves have finished under .500 only twice since 1991.

        Baseball is hard and winning consistently year after year is more difficult than getting hot at the right time and winning the World Series. The Marlins, with their two WS wins, are proof of that.

      • misterj167 - Aug 27, 2013 at 1:55 AM

        Because I clearly have too much time on my hands:

        Teams that played over .500 for ten consecutive years or more (16)

        Historically:
        Boston Red Sox (3 times) 1908-1919, 1967-1982, 1998-2011
        Chicago Cubs (3 times) 1878-1891, 1903-1914, 1926-1939
        NY/SF Giants (3 times) 1903-1914, 1916-1925, 1958-1971
        Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves (3 times) 1887-1899, 1953-1966, 1991-2005
        Brooklyn/LA Dodgers (twice) 1945-1967, 1969-1978
        Philadelphia Phillies (twice) 1975-1984, 2003- 2012**
        Pittsburgh Pirates (twice) 1899-1913, 1918-1930
        NY Yankees (twice) 1919-1964, 1993-present*
        Phil/KC/Oakland A’s 1901-1914
        Baltimore Orioles 1968-1985
        Chicago White Sox 1951-1967
        Cincinatti Reds 1972-1981
        Cleveland Indians 1947-1956
        Detroit Tigers 1978-1988
        St. Louis Cardinals 1939-1953
        Toronto Blue Jays 1983-1993

        Since 1969 (when playoffs began), 8 different teams have accomplished this:
        Red Sox (twice)
        Braves
        Dodgers
        A’s
        Orioles
        Reds
        Tigers
        Blue Jays

        Since 1993, when the Marlins were formed, only 4 teams have accomplished this:
        Yankees
        Phillies
        Braves
        Red Sox

        Teams with multiple WS wins (19)

        Historically:
        NY Yankees 27*
        St. Louis Cardinals 12***
        Phil/KC/Oakland A’s 9
        NY/SF Giants 9
        Boston Red Sox 7
        Brooklyn/LA Dodgers 6
        Cincinatti Reds 5
        Pittsburgh Pirates 5
        Detroit Tigers 4
        Baltimore Orioles 3
        Chicago White Sox 3
        Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins 3
        Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves 3****
        Chicago Cubs 2
        Cleveland Indians 2
        NY Mets 2
        Philadelphia Phillies 2
        Toronto Blue Jays 2
        Florida Marlins 2

        Since 1969 (when playoffs began), 14 different teams have won multiple World Series:
        New York Yankees (7)*
        Oakland Athletics (4)
        Cincinnati Reds (3)
        St. Louis Cardinals (3)
        San Francisco Giants (2)
        Toronto Blue Jays (2)
        Boston Red Sox (2)
        Florida Marlins (2)
        Pittsburgh Pirates (2)
        Minnesota Twins (2)
        Los Angeles Dodgers (2)
        NY Mets (2)
        Phillies (2)
        Orioles (2)

        While 6 different teams have won once:
        White Sox
        Angels
        Diamondbacks
        Braves
        Royals
        Tigers

        That’s 20 different teams winning the series in the last 44 years

        Since 1993, when the Marlins were formed, 12 different teams have won the World Series, five of them multiple times:
        Yankees (5)*
        Giants (2)
        Cardinals (2)
        Marlins (2)
        Red Sox (2)
        Phillies
        White Sox
        Angels
        Diamondbacks
        Braves
        Blue Jays

        *I don’t count the Yankees. Damn cheaters.
        **Finished exactly .500 in 1984 and 2012, technically doesn’t count but I’ll be generous
        ***plus 1 tie as the St. Louis Browns in 1885
        ****Won the 1892 Championship Series, not counted as a World Series win but an interesting note

        There’s probably some errors as this was done pretty hastily. More teams than I expected went over .500 ten or more years in a row, but considering the absolute domination of the game by the cheating Yankees from 1919 to 1964 (and the dominance of NYC baseball in general for so many years), it’s no surprise more different teams didn’t win more WS during those days.

      • Old Gator - Aug 27, 2013 at 9:28 AM

        misterj: don’t try to convince Jimmy with the facts, and certainly not with statistics. He’s made up his pelvic plexus and that’s that.

    • Old Gator - Aug 27, 2013 at 9:50 AM

      “….but there are vastly worst owners in baseball and the Marlins have previously had vastly worst owners no matter how Gator will try to frame a ridiculous argument in retort.”

      Vastly worse, you mean? You live in one of the greatest urban educational conurbations in all of western civilization. Can’t you find anyone there who can help you construct a coherent sentence?

      Regardless, Wayne Huizinga owned the Feesh for nine years. He won one world series and finished last twice (’94, ’98 after his sole dismantling). John Henry owned the Feesh for three years and never finished last, winning one half of a championship (to be very generous to his successor). Scrooge McLoria has owned the Feesh for ten years, finished last four (and is about to finish last five) times, winning the other half of the championship John Henry delivered to him, and dismantled the team twice.

      So now, how do you figure – even though that gives you a lot of credit for thought processes of which you have repeatedly shown yourself incapable – that Huizinga and Henry were “worst”?

  20. wtfruthinkn - Aug 26, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Loria has replaced Donald Sterling as the worst owner in all sports. Sterling is old, frail, borderline senile and has handed all basketball operations over to Chris Paul. Looks like the good folks in Miami are in for a long wait. At least they got the Heat…

    • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

      Tell me about it. 90 with about seventy percent humidity today….

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

        You are funny in the way cancer jokes are

      • Old Gator - Aug 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM

        This coming from one of our ranking specialists in inadvertent humor.

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Aug 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

      I got ten bucks that says the Marlins win ANOTHER World Series before the Clippers win their first title.

      • scratchnsniffnblog - Aug 27, 2013 at 8:16 AM

        You don’t have ten dollars.

      • Old Gator - Aug 27, 2013 at 9:27 AM

        He doesn’t have an IQ of ten, either.

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