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“Save Tampa Bay Baseball?” From what?

Sep 10, 2013, 11:08 AM EDT

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A radio station in Tampa has launched a campaign to “Save Tampa Bay Baseball.”  It’s a general petition/awareness campaign thing with vague ideas of alerting Bud Selig and anyone who matters that there are baseball fans in the Bay Area and dadgummit they don’t want to lose the Rays.

Which, OK, radio stations do that sort of thing. But here I thought the problem for the Rays was that they were locked into their Bay Area ballpark, not that they’re thinking of going.  Makes me wonder why the campaign isn’t aimed at fans to actually, you know, go to more Rays games. Because the team is kinda stuck at the moment.

  1. jcmeyer10 - Sep 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Fan apathy!

  2. deathmonkey41 - Sep 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    They need to give this speech.

    • flpunx - Sep 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM

      Ironic you post that video, as it is part of the rally cry montage they play at the Trop if the Rays are down heading into the bottom of the 9th.

    • flpunx - Sep 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM

      The problem with the Rays currently is now Skeletor Selig has opened his mouth and admitted that MLB has no interests in keeping the Rays in the Bay Area long-term. New stadium or not, MLB will find a way to get what they want. It’s really a shame Miami did what they did to their citizens and team, because if they could have fielded a contender, we may have been able to work out a similar deal here. The majority of people in St. Pete/Tampa want the Rays to stay here, but there is no easy, simple solution like the mayor and Silverman want. Moving the stadium is a tremendous capital investment in something we have been told by MLB won’t last. Would you build a stadium after those comments?

  3. tfbuckfutter - Sep 10, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    You don’t understand how difficult it is for many fans to get to the stadium.

    You can beg all you want but if you have never been through Malfunction at any time of day other than the darkest hours of the night/morning you don’t get it.

    • phlato73 - Sep 10, 2013 at 12:19 PM

      u have no idea what TRAFFIC is like!
      try going to yankee stadium fom long islan up to the bronz during rush hour! malfunction junction is nothing!

      • phlato73 - Sep 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM

        anyway whats so hard/difficult in getting to the stadium! u folks that live on the tampa side need to stop whining and get a life!
        and yes i do live on the tampa side!

      • tfbuckfutter - Sep 10, 2013 at 12:56 PM

        That’s all well and good but how would the Yanks draw if the stadium were on long Island instead of centralized for the population?

      • deathmonkey41 - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM

        The Bronx is centralized? Growing up in North Jersey- I know what it’s like trying to get over the GWB before a game. It’s crazy and it ain’t easy.

      • ddusty53 - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM

        What crap. As someone who spent their first 30 years in the New York metro area and has spent the last 13 in Tampa/St Pete, this is the biggest load of crap. While I won’t say it’s ‘easy’ to get to games, it’s no where near the nightmare people claim. The traffic is not that bad. Yes, public transportation to the game would be awesome, but it’s pure urban sprawl here. PT can’t really work. So, spend 30 – 60 minutes in your car and go to a game like everyone else in the country has to do.

        And parking is not an issue either, you can park across the street for 15, one block away for 10, 2 blocks away for 5 or 3 blocks away you can park for free in the street.

      • indaburg - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:27 PM

        No comparison. NYC has a higly functional public transportation system. You can (semi) comfortably ride the 4/6 from mid-town Manhattan and be at the stadium in 30 minutes with no traffic trouble. In Tampa Bay, a very sprawled out mmetropolitan area, there are no other viable options.

      • tfbuckfutter - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        Ddusty I live 45 miles from the stadium ALL 60 to 70 mph interstate and it takes a minimum of 90 minutes to get to a 7oclock game. That’s not even taking into account frequent accidents that shut I4 down altogether because drivers here are fucking retarded.

      • duvisited - Sep 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM

        Getting to Yankee Stadium from anywhere in Manhattan is ridiculously easy. Long Island may be tougher, but that still puts millions of people a train ride away from the ballpark.

      • tfbuckfutter - Sep 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        Has anyone even stopped for two seconds to realize how bad the commute is for people not in St Pete as is….

        And how much worse it would be if they are drawing 10,000 more fans from the Tampa side?

      • dan1111 - Sep 10, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        Sure, I have driven an hour, even two or three hours to see a game, no problem (including to see the Rays when I lived 2 hours outside Tampa).

        But I wouldn’t do that 10+ times a year, while when I lived a 20 minute drive from PNC park, we did go that often.

        To get good attendance, you need a large core of people who can make it to the games very easily, so it’s no big deal to take in a weekday game after work at the spur of the moment. The Rays stadium location likely does hurt attendance quite a bit.

      • tfbuckfutter - Sep 10, 2013 at 5:51 PM

        dan, exactly, and not only that, but it cancels out the Orlando market altogether.

        If the stadium is by the Ampthitheater, you are drawing west side Orlando residents who make less than an hour long drive. Really the only ones who are screwed are St. Pete residents, who now have to come over the bridge….the same ones who bitch at us about it not being so bad. So obviously you can still count on them attending 100% as often.

    • redmanrt - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:38 PM

      Build a monorail line from the stadium to a big parking lot on the other side of the bay.

      • tfbuckfutter - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM

        But what about us brain dead slobs?

  4. drewsylvania - Sep 10, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    If they want more people to go to the games, they could help themselves by not employing 1) a rapist (Josh Lueke), 2) a guy who assaulted an ump with a bat (Delmon Young), and 3) a guy who put “you’re a faggot” on his eye black (Yunel Escobar).

    • js20011041 - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

      As much as I would like to know that the deeply flawed character of some of the players on this team are keeping people away, I can’t give the fans that much credit. If it’s legitimately keeping fans away, the numbers are in single digits. They just don’t care about it. The issues with attendance run deeper than that. I know Rays fans won’t admit it, but a new stadium in Tampa won’t solve their attendance issues. It’ll help, sure, but attendance would still be in the bottom third of baseball. Fans in this area simply do not attend sporting events in large numbers.

      • drewsylvania - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

        True. However, it’s an easy change to make. They can quickly and easily change personnel, while changing their venue or baseball-watching climate is much more difficult. (Unless they moved the team)

      • indaburg - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        The Lightning draw quite well. The Bucs also drew well when they were winning (and before the Glazers pissed off the Tampa Bay area by funneling money to Manchester U).

      • convincedofthehex - Sep 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM

        The Lightning are the near the top of the NHL in attendance.

      • redmanrt - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:40 PM

        Ship the Marlins off to Havana and give the entire Florida television and radio market to the Florida Rays.

    • indaburg - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM

      Issues with attendance existed far before those pleasant players arrived. That will do absolutely nothing for the Rays attendance problems.

  5. suziecue59 - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Drew – you’re an idiot. Let’s talk about the virtues of ‘Miggy’. Yet, I’m pretty sure people still go to Tiger games. Didn’t hear anybody kicking and screaming about him and Young last year!

    I live in the Largo area and go to many games every year. The ‘traffic issue’ is BS. I’ve never had a problem with it, nor has it EVER taken me 2 hours (like i hear some complain) to get in or out of downtown St. Pete.

    Do they need a new stadium? Yes. Should that stadium be in downtown Tampa? NO. The Bucs can’t sell 85% of their tickets, so what makes anyone think the Rays would fare any better in that dump?

    I don’t know what the stadium answer is, but it isn’t downtown Tampa.

    • drewsylvania - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:27 PM

      So? People put up with Miggy’s crap because he’s an amazing hitter. It wouldn’t be a big subtraction to Tampa to get rid of Lueke or Escobar, and certainly not Young, who couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a fucking boat.

      And thanks for the ad hominem. To paraphrase Tim McCarver, you are a real woman.

      • historiophiliac - Sep 10, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        Do you think her sister is Barbie Cue?

      • redmanrt - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM

        Get rid of Escobar, one of the fest fielders in MLB? Besame nel culo, pinche carbon.

      • redmanrt - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:50 PM

        Calcaterra, your sarcasm is so subtle that it is downright elegiac. People who, when speaking, constantly toss in “you know” don’t hear how moronic they sound, but you “actually” wrote it.

      • redmanrt - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:59 PM

        This primitive spell checker won’t quit. I meant “cabrón” and “elegaic.”

  6. suziecue59 - Sep 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Wow! all this wit wasted in the comments of a blog!

    • drewsylvania - Sep 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM

      And I’m the idiot. SMH.

  7. redmanrt - Sep 10, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Calcaterra, your sarcasm is so subtle that it borders on the elegaic. People who constantly use “you know” when speaking can’t hear how moronic they sound, but you “actually” wrote it.

  8. jpthereafter - Sep 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    So sick of rays fans excuses. You have a good team, cheap tickets, and accessible stadium. Go ahead and give me a thumbs down and come up with more excuses but you will lose this team in a matter of time. If you will spend the same amount of time going to games as you did complaining about this issue, it wouldn’t be an issue.

    • leanmrfuzzles - Sep 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM

      That’s where your wrong, our stadium is NOT accessible there is a lack of public transportation, it’s in a bad neighborhood, and isn’t in a heavily populated area. in fact it has the least amount of people living within a 30 minute drive to the stadium in the MLB. How is it accessible may i ask? the reason I don’t go to more games is because it’s such a hassle to get to. I’m sick of people like you talking about things you clearly don’t know anything about.

  9. motivationfortheworld - Sep 10, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    I wrote an article about this at the beginning of the season. I think it sums this issue up…

  10. yanmontreal - Sep 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Bring the rays in Montreal, they need a second chance. Its a huge and beautiful city

  11. themagicfanguy - Sep 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    I wish they would just move to Orlando. I know the Tampa/St. Pete people would hate it but at least the Rays could sell out some games then.

  12. jaduber - Sep 13, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    It is funny when NY or Boston fans talk about how their attendance is so much better. Lets breakdown the numbers. Going by 2013 avg attendance:
    City. Avg per game. # of games. Total. Population. % of fans going to games per population
    NY. 41,605. 72. 2,995,560/ 10,062,188* 30%
    Bos. 34,712. 72. 2,499,264/ 5,633,060. 40%
    Tampa. 18,724. 72. 1,348,128/ 2,400,000. 50%
    * NY actual has population of 20,124,377 but to be fair divided in half to account for Mets fans, so NY % could be worse
    If Rays built new stadium in Tampa near fairgrounds/hard Rock casino population #’s to draw from could go to 5 million b/c fans from the I-4 corridor & I-75 could reach stadium easily.
    By the way tv viewer in Tampa market share for the Rays is in the top third of all MLB. So stop saying the Rays don’t have any fans!

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