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X-rays negative on Jose Iglesias’ hand

Sep 19, 2013, 6:03 PM EST

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The Tigers were given quite the scare this afternoon when Jose Iglesias was hit in the left hand by a pitch from Mariners reliever Tom Wilhelmsen in the bottom of the sixth inning, but it sounds like he’s going to be fine. According to Bobby Nightengale and Jason Beck of MLB.com, X-rays came back negative and Iglesias has been diagnosed with a contusion.

That’s a huge relief for Detroit, as it certainly had the look of a potentially serious injury. Iglesias immediately clutched at his hand and crouched to the ground in pain before leaving the field with team trainer Kevin Rand.

Iglesias is batting .276 with two home runs and 10 RBI in 42 games since being acquired from the Red Sox in three-team Jake Peavy trade in July. The Tigers are prepared to welcome back Jhonny Peralta from his Biogenesis suspension for the postseason, but he’s expected to do so as a left fielder.

  1. Reflex - Sep 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Yeah, it woulda been terrifying for them to lose a guy who’s been batting .207 over the past two weeks…

    • historiophiliac - Sep 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      I love how you restrict it to the last two weeks so you can make it look worse. Convenient selection there.

    • tigersgorawr - Sep 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM

      Yeah, because a two-week span is representative of an entire season of baseball, right? Also, baseball players don’t play in the field, and thus, Iglesias won’t be missed defensively, either right? Note the sarcasm. Do you even watch baseball? If you do, just stop now, because you don’t know what you’re talking about. Iglesias is probably going to be the AL rookie of the year.

  2. 1ambetterthanyou - Sep 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    At least he can run faster that fatty Cabrerra. Now there is someone that can turn a double into a single pretty fast.

    • tigersgorawr - Sep 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      Too bad the guy has been playing with multiple injuries for months now. Who cares if the guy turns doubles into singles…he’s the best hitter in baseball and about to be back-to-back MVP. Fielder is much fatter, anyways.

  3. weaselpuppy - Sep 19, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    people drawing conclusions based on small sample size usually are dealing with a small sample size issue of their own….

    • jcmeyer10 - Sep 19, 2013 at 8:15 PM

      And people who point out that other people have an issue with their “sample size” are deflecting and have an issue with their “sample size” themselves.
      :D

      Peavy for Iglesias was worth it for the Sox and I wish Iglesias all the best. I just wanted to bust your “sample size”.

  4. natsattack - Sep 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Victory!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/19/raiders-and-chargers-wont-swap-home-dates/

  5. papacrick - Sep 19, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Doesn’t matter if he’s hitting .120 this guy is taking runs off the board every night. Even more crucial when you look at the big fellas on the corners he’s playing with

    • Reflex - Sep 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM

      As I’ve pointed out in discussions with Historio, despite his reputation and the flashiness of his play Iglesias is not actually showing much defensively according to defensive metrics. I was surprised when I looked into it as I was operating under the knowledge that he was a glove first shortstop, but it does not appear to be the case, either in the majors or the minors.

      Obviously sample size is small, and the advanced metrics require three years of data to show much, but based on both advanced and old school stats he has not been appreciably better than Jhonny was defensively, and offensively he is a large downgrade.

      • jcmeyer10 - Sep 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM

        At least Iglesias has been appreciably worse at getting caught using PED’s! :D

      • historiophiliac - Sep 19, 2013 at 10:19 PM

        I don’t know why you can’t accept reality about Peralta. I like him, but you over estimate him. He’s over 30 and has had two above average seasons for the Tigers and two below. His dWAR this year was .8 (not great for a seasoned veteran) — and Little Sexy Fire’s is .4 since joining Detroit. That isn’t that much difference, considering Iggy is a rookie. Jhonny’s BA this year was .305 and Iggy’s .280 with Detroit (and, yes, it has fallen but is still higher than freaking Kelly or Dirks or Santiago). You think too highly of Peralta and too low of Iglesias. I know you love the big hitters and hold that against Iggy (because he’s not a slugger), but that is not his role on the team. We need him to play some small ball so that he feeds the RBI machine. I know you individualists like to look at players in isolation, but you’re 1) not being fair about his role on the team, and 2) not being even-handed in your comparison.

      • Reflex - Sep 19, 2013 at 11:19 PM

        He is getting on base at a .323 clip. About the same as Andy Dirks. Better than Alex Avila. Third worse guy at the team at the ‘feeding the RBI machine’ task. He is also being batted ninth, which is where a manager puts the guy he wants to have the least number of at bats in a game.

        His OPS is .699. That is really bad. His OPS+, which is adjusted based on league average and position, is 89 which means he is 11% worse of a hitter than the league average at his position. If his defensive metrics held up to scrutiny he might make up that gap, assuming he can continue hitting as he is now, but so far they have not.

        Even worse is when you compare him to Peralta. He gets on base at a .362 clip. His OBP is .822 and his OPS+ is 121. Its not even that Peralta is elite, he’s not on his own although he is very good. Its that the dropoff from Peralta, a well above average SS offensively to Iglesias, a below average offensive shortstop, is a huge gap, and is the difference between a regular player and an elite one.

        Again, I like Iglesias. I think the deal made perfect sense. I just don’t think he’s a huge contributor. He simply made it survivable for them to lose an All Star caliber SS without missing a beat.

      • historiophiliac - Sep 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM

        Okay, if you compare Peralta to a great SS, you’ll probably get a different picture, but you insist on comparing him to a rookie and then concluding he’s great based on that. I really don’t see how a .362 OBP is soooo much better. That’s basically what Prince is doing, and everyone’s talking about what a bad year he’s having. I don’t think you should use “elite” and “Peralta” in the same sentence. Seriously, stop just looking at Peralta’s numbers for this season. Also, again, you obsess on the OPS which is lower for Iggy because he’s not a slugger. I don’t hate Jhonny; I just don’t get why you think he’s “elite.” I’d say “good,” and I like Iglesias’ potential to be better.

        Seriously, since you don’t care for the way the Tigers are run, couldn’t you just stick with pestering teams whose management you approve of?

      • Reflex - Sep 20, 2013 at 1:18 AM

        OPS+ compares players to the league average against others who play the same position. Peralta’s OPS is 21% better than a league average SS. There are only two SS’s this season who have had a higher OPS than Peralta in at least 200AB’s. Hanley Ramirez and Troy Tulowitski.

        I am not speaking to last season. I am not speaking to next season. I am saying right now there is NO WAY IN HELL having Iglesias at SS is better for the Tigers than having Peralta there. Peralta has the third best bat in the game at his position this season, and that is the very definition of ‘elite’.

        Given that their defense grades out very close to each other, there is no way that Iglesias’ glove is making up for his well below average bat. As for ‘upside’ I don’t see any evidence that there is any. He has so far followed the same pattern he did on the Red Sox, he started strong and then tailed off as other teams in his division discovered the holes in his swing.

        Even worse, one as athletic as him you would think would be a table setter, but he is *terrible* on the base paths. In his career he has only stolen 6 bases. Granted its a small sample size, but he’s not done any better in the minors.

        Offensively he brings virtually nothing to the table. Where do you expect to see growth? Is he going to magically learn how to run faster? Is he going to gain power and start jacking them over the fence when he has not even shown doubles power? Is he going to gain an Ichiro like ability to slap singles? All is very doubtful.

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Iglesias’ ceiling is Adam Everett. Someone who’s glove makes them worth what is lost at the plate, and who necessitates the team making up their offense at other positions. But for that to happen his defense needs to start matching the hype, it has not so far.

        I feel like I always have to put this disclaimer in, but I do like him. He’s fun to watch. But you are someone who is always going on about how you prefer vets to kids because they are proven or some such. I am not sure why, but you seem to have fallen prey to prospect hype. Except in this case its a prospect without much hype. Even worse you are advocating for your team to dump they guy they really should re-sign who is providing them a far above league average level of production, in favor of a guy who is providing well below league average. Peralta is not likely to repeat this season, but even a reduced Peralta is likely to outperform Iglesias for the next 2-3 seasons, and that assumes some skills growth from Jose. It may happen, but even an optimist really does not ever see his bat being better than league average, and his defense still needs work.

      • historiophiliac - Sep 20, 2013 at 9:44 AM

        Sheesus, dude. I’m moving. I don’t have time to break all that down. This argument will have to be continued at a later date.

    • Minoring In Baseball - Sep 19, 2013 at 9:23 PM

      I agree. His defense and range are a big improvement over JP. And, he’s not batting .120, and .276 is very respecable. It would be rough for the Tigers without him. And as far as Miggy’s running goes, the guy is only at about 70%, so anything he does on the field is a plus for Detroit.

      http://minoringinbaseball.com/

  6. weaselpuppy - Sep 20, 2013 at 3:11 AM

    On a team of station to station tree sloths (JP included), adding some baserunning speed (even if it’s not SBs) is a needed addition, to say nothing of the range in the field, which allows Infante to not have to shade as much towards 2b.

  7. tigersfan71 - Sep 21, 2013 at 4:42 AM

    Why is that Detroit Tigers doesn’t get any kind of RESPECT?They are in 1st place for a REASON!!!!!
    Miguel Cabrera is in pain and yet he is still getting the job done.How many men do you think would still go to work everyday when they don’t feel their best?

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