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It’s time for your regularly scheduled “Marlins aren’t trading Giancarlo Stanton” update

Sep 27, 2013, 2:30 PM EDT

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Every couple months there’s a new report about how the Marlins aren’t planning to trade Giancarlo Stanton, so here’s the latest: Joe Frisaro of talked to a “plugged-in MLB source” who doesn’t see “any scenario” in which they trade the 23-year-old outfielder.

Stanton is under team control through 2016 and made the minimum salary this season, so it’s not as if his salary is an issue even for a team with a gutted payroll. Still, because of the Marlins’ history with such things Stanton’s status is always going to be in question.

Frisaro writes that the Marlins are hesitant to offer Stanton a big long-term contract because “there are reservations” due to his injury history. Which is pretty odd, considering his missed time this year was due to a hamstring injury and he’s played 93 of a possible 96 games since returning from the disabled list.

  1. xmatt0926x - Sep 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    He’s gone as soon as his arbitration numbers get too high. Let’s face it, he’s not signing long term there. They’ll get what they can for him either this year or next.

  2. missthemexpos - Sep 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    I will counter any ” Marlins aren’t trading Giancarlo Stanton” updates with “If Wayne Gretzky can be traded….”

  3. Walk - Sep 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    The problem is Stanton is only going to be a rental unless he is traded to a west coast team. He has stated his desire to return to the west coast as soon as his contract allows. This will bring down his value to most of the league if a trade does not happen soon.

    • dan1111 - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      People say lots of stuff, but a long-term contract worth tens of millions can change that in a hurry. I doubt teams will worry about this much.

  4. rbj1 - Sep 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Poor Stanton. Can’t we send in Seal Team 6 to rescue him from the clutches of Scrooge Loria ?

    • historiophiliac - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:40 PM

      Petition the White House!

  5. ptfu - Sep 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    According to Cot’s, this season was Stanton’s final pre-arb year. He is due arbitration for the next three years. In 2014 he could make ten times what he made this season. So the Feesh will have another ~$5M contract to absorb, and who knows what that signifies in Feeshonomics.

  6. icanspeel - Sep 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    If they don’t want to lock him up long term, why not trade him when his value is pretty high still?

  7. Old Gator - Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    I’m looking forward to seeing what the Iron Giant demands in arbitration. Frankly, much as Scott Boras annoys me, it’d be hilarious to see the Giant tap him as his agent as he goes in to arbitration. I can’t think of anything that would get Scrooge McLoria’s attention faster.

  8. paperlions - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Stanton is still only 23, but he’s only played 150 games once (and 151 games zero times). In general, players don’t get less injured with age. More troubling is that he may already be showing peak production, he really hasn’t gotten any better over the last 4 years, he had a crazy high HR/FB rate last year, even compared to his years before or after. It is just difficult to tell if this is what he’s going to be, which is good, but not great…or if he will improve as a player and become a beast. He K rates are stable, but very high (9th in all of baseball since he came up) and he has a good walk rate (11.2%, which is inflated a bit because of teams pitching around him more this year)…but the contact rates and health should be concerns….not for the Marlins, but for anyone giving up the farm to trade for him.

    • paperlions - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      I’m sorry, I guess I should have said, Stanton is 12 kind of fantastic and likely will be the most prolific HR hitter in MLB history. There is no reasonable basis to doubt his awesomeness and the likelihood that he could probably lead a team to a WS victory just by his mere presence.

    • dan1111 - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      Injuries are always a concern, but there are players who struggled with injuries early in their careers, but then got over it and were healthy and productive for a long time. David Ortiz is one example I can think of.

      As for his performance, his numbers show an upward trend except for this season. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about; down years happen. Overall, his record is one of incredible hitting at a very young age.

      • paperlions - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM

        The problem is that there is no trend in improvement in the underlying numbers…no improvement in contact rates and little improvement in BB rate (if you adjust for him being pitched around while being in a AAA lineup this year). It isn’t a question of how good he has been, but if he will get better or just peaked early…if this is what he is…that is fine, but it isn’t worth the crazy packages people have been suggesting he should command (e.g. Tavares, Wacha, Martinez, and some lower level guys)….that stuff is just crazy pants….especially when teams can get similar offensive production out of “non-prospects” like Craig and Carpenter.

  9. Cris E - Sep 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    They’ll sign him to a huge deal, 6 years $135m, but distributed 5 – 8 – 12 – 30 – 30 – 50 and trade him to the Mets or Dodgers during year three. (Sorry Mets fans.)

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