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Cubs fire manager Dale Sveum

Sep 30, 2013, 12:16 PM EDT

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Dale Sveum seemed to know he was a goner as soon as team president Theo Epstein declined to comment on whether he’d be back for the final season of his contract in 2014 and now Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Cubs have fired Sveum.

Sveum lasted two years with the Cubs, going 61-101 last season and 66-96 this season. Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer repeatedly stressed that the team’s record would not play a large factor in Sveum’s status, but in addition to all the losing there were also questions about how he dealt with young players and specifically shortstop Starlin Castro.

Ron Gardenhire is off the managerial market, re-signing with the Twins, but there’s been some speculation that the Cubs could make a run at Joe Girardi if he decides not to remain with the Yankees.

  1. thesmedman - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Mr Epstein? A J. Girardi left a voice mail indicating to call him in a month…

  2. chiadam - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    OK, so maybe Theo and Jed are not baseball geniuses.

  3. jm91rs - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Either they’re going to back up a Brinks truck to lure Girardi, or they’re going to hire another 2-3 year stop gap manager. The team is not ready to compete in the highly competitive Central. They need a few years of building prospects and when they start to get close they can start throwing money at some free agents.

    • chiadam - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:28 PM

      They want Brad Ausmus. Because that’ll surely spur this garbage team to 68 wins.

    • gloccamorra - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM

      Girardi is going to get top dollar wherever he ends up. The Cubs would have to start assembling some free agent stars NOW, Dodgers-style, to be attractive, don’t you think? Otherwise, he’s got more to work with where he is.

      • jm91rs - Sep 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        I’m not sure he has more in NY. The Yankees are a few years away from even getting back to square one because they have a few guys making too much money and not contributing. Just going off the top of my head I can’t think of any huge albatross contracts that the Cubs need to dump. They’re back at square one finally and hopefully can be more wise from here on out.

      • nothanksimdriving123 - Sep 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM

        Who the hell would want Girardi when Bobby Valentine is available?

    • paperlions - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      They are loaded with position prospects…the pitching is lacking, but they may be planning on buying the pitching instead of developing it. They could be scary good by 2015….or, of course, they could look just like they did in 2013….development isn’t a linear or predictable path.

  4. zoellner25 - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    I feel bad for Sveum. He’s a really good guy and coach and is beloved by Brewer fans, such as myself. Too bad his first full time job had to be with the Cubs, because they stink and have little talent. I’d take him back to Milwaukee in a second.

  5. southpaw2k - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Aww, come on. He improved the Cubs’ record by 5 games this season over last year. At that rate, the Cubs would reach .500 by 2017.

  6. yourcubreporter - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Inevitable.

    The record was one thing, but the approach was the bigger problem. All the talent in the world will not get you to the promised land if you can’t get the players to buy in. Thanks for trying, Dale. We wish you success in your future.

    …but don’t think for a minute that Cubs fans aren’t FURIOUS over the way your team rolled over for the Cardinals. Those three games should have been considered your team’s playoffs!

    • paperlions - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      Of course, it is hard to get players to buy in when they KNOW that the organization is rebuilding and when all of the pieces that can be sold off for prospects are shipped out. When the organization doesn’t buy into the team, it isn’t realistic to expect the coaches or players to do so either….and let’s not act like anyone thought the 2013 opening lineup for the Cubs was expected to seriously compete.

  7. sleepyirv - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Very sharp practice by Theo unless he lands a very big fish (be a known quantity or new superstar). If he ends up replacing Dale with another caretaker manager, today’s actions are just pointlessly mean.

  8. raiderssuckballz - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    CSN is saying the Cubs have offered Brad Ausmus a 3 year deal!

  9. phillyupperdecker - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Really makes you wonder why never game Sandberg a shot. I do understand the immense pressure that would have been on Sandberg as the manager of the Cubs but if he got it right and turned around the Cubs he basically is a God in Chicago. I think the risk was certainly worth the reward.

    • jm91rs - Sep 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      Maybe they didn’t want to saddle him with a team that wasn’t going anywhere. I think about when I was a kid, the Reds hired Tony Perez to manage a terrible team. My only memory of Tony Perez is as an awful manager, yet I know the guy is a legend for his playing days. It’d be sad if Ryne Sandberg was known to a generation of cubs as a bad manager. I’d much rather see him get his shot with a team that is more prepared to start growing (like the Cubs are now).

  10. hoopmatch - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    I understand Jim Riggleman knows something about being a caretaker manager.

  11. sdelmonte - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    I don’t take joy in seeing anyone fired. But I have to think Joe Girardi is feeling a bit happier today than yesterday. He might now have either a chance to manage at home, or a great bargaining chip. No, I don’t think he leaves the Bronx. But if anyone knows how to get the Yankees to pay more for an asset, it’s Theo.

  12. muskyhunter2542 - Sep 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Why would one leave the Yankees for The Cubs? What the hell would someone leave a winning franchise and go to one of the worst franchises in all of sports???

    Very bad career move if that were to happen!!!

  13. earpaniac - Sep 30, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    I could care less about his record. That wasn’t the point, and it never was. But the way the players seemed to regress under him was a deal breaker in my eyes. That was really the only thing they were holding him accountable for, and he failed.

  14. yahmule - Sep 30, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Nobody should be fired for the way they deal with Starlin Castro.

  15. psousa1 - Sep 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    As a Red Sox fan it reeks of old times. Theo’s “It’s not me it’s you” routine. Better chance of winning the lottery than Girardi managing there. Theo wants a manager who knows his place. They are merely middle management in his eyes. Girardi speaks his mind. Epstein would feel threatened by Joe G. (who in my opinion is a kick ass manager).

  16. Minoring In Baseball - Sep 30, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    That’s too bad, because Sveum obviously isn’t the problem. A team with very little talent is the problem. The Cubs do have some fine young prospects, but give him a chance to develop these guys.

    http://minoringinbaseball.com/

  17. serbingood - Oct 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    It would be poetic justice for a former Red Sox GM to hire a Yankee manager. Joe Girardi was able to go through 53+ warm bodies, mostly old and at end of career, to play 9 positions in a game. And in doing so, he managed to finish over 500 for the season. That to me is what a good to great manager can do for a team.

    If Joe decides to leave NY, or NY decides to leave Joe. and Chicago wants him, go for it. Enter with low expectations and maybe, just maybe he can take the first step and get them to 500.

    Will NY be any better in 2014 than the 2013 Cubs? If no, then at least he can start fresh and leave the rebuilding of the Yankees to the genius that is Cashman.

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