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Ron Gardenhire signs two-year extension with Twins

Sep 30, 2013, 11:47 AM EST

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UPDATE: It’s official. Gardenhire gets a two-year deal and his entire coaching staff keeps their jobs.

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There’s a press conference scheduled for 2:30 central time this afternoon at which the Twins are expected to make an announcement about Ron Gardenhire’s job status. Locally here in Minnesota just about everyone has been assuming Gardenhire will be back and sure enough Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that he’s returning on a new two-year contract.

Gardenhire finished among the top three in Manager of the Year voting seven times in his first nine seasons, winning the award in 2010, but since then the Twins have gone 195-291 (.401) with three consecutive 95-plus loss seasons. Very few managers in baseball history have hung onto their jobs following that sort of sustained losing, but if ever there was a team to display that much loyalty it’s certainly the Twins and general manager Terry Ryan (who himself was brought back into the fold after stepping down from the job previously).

Gardenhire is the second-longest tenured manager in baseball with 12 seasons in Minnesota, going 998-947 (.513) overall.

  1. dluxxx - Sep 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    I kinda figured it would happen. It wasn’t really his fault that the team stunk, but at the same time, I’m a little disappointed knowing that Rick Anderson will most likely be back as well. Those two are tied at the hip, and it seems like if they wouldhave said “Andy” had to go, then Gardy would be gone as well.

    That, and his refusal to platoon hitters. That bugs me too, but I’ve been dealing with it for years, so I’m getting used to it.

    • Cris E - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      Well last winter they made him drop Stelmaszek after 32 years in the organization, so they’re not certain to give him a completely free hand.

      Honestly the bullpens have always been pretty good under Gardenhire and Anderson, and the starting pitching is pretty much as good as what Ryan signs (minus the Liriano wildcard.) If the team can land a #1/#2 guy over the winter and let the kids only be responsible to fill in the back end they should be better. But finding a front of the rotation guy has never been Ryan’s strength, so we’ll have to see who is in camp in Feb 2014.

  2. idolized1 - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Unreal.

    Sano and Buxton don’t stand a chance in his “system.”

    Twins aren’t going anywhere, again.

    We’ll screw up all of our prospects until we trade them to a team that can help them reach their potential and sit here with our 35 year FA signings like we’re doing something…

    • dluxxx - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      Yeah, I can’t think of a single prospect that reached thier potential with the Twins… Not a single one.

      /s

      • idolized1 - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        Kyle Lohse, Carlos Gomez, J.J. Hardy, Ortiz, etc… All guys we couldn’t use but went on to star with other clubs.

        That’s a managing problem.

      • percychuggs - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM

        Hardy was hurt during his one year with the team. Kyle Lohse is a mid-rotation starter at best in MLB, and the general manager gave up on Gomez, not Gardenhire.

      • dluxxx - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:56 PM

        And Ortiz spent one season under Gardenhire. One. That year he had lingering knee problems all year, and although he hit pretty well, to blame his lack of development on Gardy is pretty silly. He played under Tom Kelly (widely loved and respected as a coach because of his two championships) from 97 to 2001. If anyone is to blame for Ortiz not making it with the Twins, then it would be Kelly, not Gardy.

        Lohse was/is an asshole, and had issues with Gardy and pretty much anyone else he ever played with (now playing for the 5th team) and has only had any real success as an NL pitcher.

        Gomez should have spent another year or two in the minors, but the fact that he was rushed through the Minors by the Mets, and then thrown into the starting CF job as a 19 year old with a poor grasp of the fundamentals is hardly the fault of Gardy.

        Hardy was not a prospect when he came to the Twins. He had 4 years experince in the majors, and was dinged up all year.

  3. schke - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    /roll eyes

    /face palm

  4. jbriggs81 - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Whether you like Gardenhire’s managing style or not, this move doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense. The Twins have been unsuccessful the last few season and under Gardenhire’s tenure are barely over a .500 team. Even when they made the playoffs, they weren’t a real contender for the WS. Now the Twins have one of the best farm systems in the country and have the potential to begin putting together a solid foundation for a team. It seems like right now is the perfect time to start fresh with a new manager. Why would you stick with something that has been ineffective when the rest of the organization is young and fresh?

  5. Jeff - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    this news sux

  6. goody20 - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Honest to god what mode proof do they need? When our young guys knock the cover off the ball and are dominating pitchers all through their minor league careers then come to the majors and absolutely fail.. Who is left to blame.. We have the talent gardy just can’t get it out of them.. They need a guy with fire, you can’t be a players friend and still demand their best every night.. It’s time for a new voice and if Rick Anderson comes back too I will have to find a new team to cheer for and I’ve been a twins fan for a long time this is getting so old I can’t stand it.

    • percychuggs - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:31 PM

      Care to cite some examples of young Twins hitters who were “dominating pitchers all through their minor league careers” and then were supposedly ruined by Gardenhire?

      When you give Ron Gardenhire good players, he takes them to the playoffs. When you make him fill out a lineup card filled with Triple A players, he loses games. There isn’t a man, woman or child on this Earth that could get a winning season out of the team he was given to start this season.

      • dluxxx - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

        I’m sure he’s talking about Parmalee, Plouffe and Hicks.

        Parmalee had one good season in AAA and nothing else in his track record showed he’d ever be that kind of hitter. And turns out, he isn’t.

        Plouffe has extreme platoon splits, and should be used strictly against lefties (see my platoon commnet above). He had a stellar half season in AAA, then had a few nice little runs in the bigs with plenty of mediocraty sandwhiched in between.

        Hicks was promoted directly from AA to the bigs, and although he has shown good plate discipline in the minors was obviously overmatched this year. He needs probably another at least another half season of good AAA at bats before they consider bringing him up again.

        I’m sure there’s some other guys that should I should be thinking of, but honestly I can’t remember the last great hitting prospect that came up to the majors and just outright failed.

      • goody20 - Sep 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        These guys may not have come from our farm system or had stellar minor league careers but tell me how good liranio did consistently with the twins? And tell me how good he did now with the Pirates.. How’s jj hardy doing over therein Baltimore, yeah he’s not a very good short stop at all.. Papi definitely shouldn’t be in the discussion for best dh ever.. How good did kyle Gibson do this year once gardy and Anderson got there hands on him after he was fairly successful in the minors.. Our pitchers get worse after spending time in the majors ask Scott diamond.. Ask Andrew Albers.. Obviously it’s not all his fault he doesn’t have tons of talent but this team has enough talent to at least win 75 games and that is directly related to the manager pitching coach and hitting coach.. Tell me how that isn’t gardys fault?

  7. zzalapski - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    *Two* years? Unbefuckinglievable.

    This works out for me personally because it increases the chances of attending games at Target Field at cheap prices, but if I were a Twins fan I’d be pissed.

    • fmc651 - Oct 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      Most are, and even more upset with one of the worst owners in all of sport.

  8. jollyjoker2 - Sep 30, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    “locally people are not assuming he will be back”. That’s bs. He’s okay as a technical manager but the time has passed him to motivate or relate. Joe mauer was a disaster keeping him on board. The man is an everyman and not a leader at 21 mil per year. They need new blood to start doing things differently.

    • fmc651 - Oct 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

      techincally like having his players look at third strikes that are right down the middle of the plate. He is all around awful. Other managers like him because they know he stinks.Gardy will joke around with them so they like him more after they beat his team.Techincal like pulling a CY Young winner from a game in the playoffs when they are ahead. And the other team comes from behind to close out a series, that techincal?

  9. bkunza - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    This is insanity!

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-Gardenhire-NOW/192497644248971

    • Francisco (FC) - Sep 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      Maybe they’re just letting him reach the 1000 win milestone (a la Charlie Manuel) and then they’ll fire him… so you’re a looking at a new Manager by the end of April… first of week of May tops!

  10. gdog97 - Sep 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    As a Twins fan this isn’t exactly great news. As a Twins fan this is also par for the course. They thrive on stability, whatever that means, and doing things the Twins way.

    As a Twins fan I’m also not surprised. They will do what they always do. They’ll always just be ‘good enough’ to compete and be happy. They never have, and never will, go after any ‘big names’ or talent to try and make the team better.

    Until I die I will always believe that Thome would have put the 03-05 Twins over the top and at least got us to the World Series. He even wanted to come here but they wouldn’t pony up the money. That was a perfect example of a star player in his prime wanting to come to the Twins and them not wanting to put up the cash to do so.

    This will never change under the Pohlad ownership group. They promised to increase spending with a new stadium. In 2009 their payroll was around $65MM. ESPN says right now it’s $75MM. So much for all that new spending we were gonna get. With the All-Star game coming in 2014 they will get a ton of national attention and revenue from the game. That money, as usual, will not be spent on players.

    God forbid they try and overspend to get players in the door, like the Tigers did in the early 2000’s, and go out and get some guys who can help now and in 2-3 years when we’re supposedly going to be ready to compete. Give the fans something to believe in. Try and mend fences with Garza. Talk to Shin-Soo Choo and tell him he’d love summers in Minneapolis.

    I don’t know why I do this to myself. It’s never gonna happen.

    • mjhutmkr - Sep 30, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      They Twins will shed about $40 million in expiring contracts as well so they projected cheap payroll will be around $35 million for 2014.

      AAA club.

  11. kraa0901 - Sep 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Big Papi comes to mind. Not that he did much after he left the Twins organization or anything!!

  12. moogro - Sep 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    The best a Twins fan can ever hope for is a quick-exit playoff berth every 3-6 years from now on. And that’s OK. Target field is awesome. It’s the MN blind spot: they think winning games in a weak division can overcome the radical economic changes in baseball.

    Gardy said in an interview recently he would examine platooning if the situation were right. Huh? In other words, he’ll never do it. Twins: Hired!

  13. TBaySlim - Sep 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    well i know where i wont be the next two seasons, this is crazy, only in minnesota could a person fail this bad and retain his job. Gardy is an awful manager and even with talent could get his teams over the playoff hump an take advantages of week divisions time and time again. He coddles the “star” players mauer, morneau, and lashs out on rookies and younger players repeatly throwing them under the bus, he cant help develope talent, he can manager vets who are not in with the “twins way”….STUPID, the only way to stop the insanity is to not show up to the games hurt the pocket book of the owners who are amoung the richest in all sports.

    A list of pospects who failed under gardy: luke huges, Danny Alencia, Anthony Slama, Trevor Plouff, Jeff Manship, Alex Burnett, Jose Mijares, KEvin Slowely, Pat Neshek, Delmon, Young, nick Blackburn, Phil Humber, Brian Buscher, MAtt GArza, CArlos Gomez, Brian Bass, Boof Bonser, Juan Ricon, Jose Morales, Jason Bartlett, Garrett Jones, Adam Johnson, Darnell Mcdonald, Josh Rabe, Willie Eyre, Terry Tiffee, Travis Bowyer, Luis Rodriguez, Mike Ryan, Grant Balfour, Jd Durbin, Brad Thomas, Rob Bowen, Micheal Restovich, Michael Nakamura, Brian Buchannan, Todd Sears, Lew Ford, Dustan Mohr, MAtt Kinney, Travis Miller, Javier Valentin, Casey Blake, Jay CAnizaro, Luis Rivas…..

    So there is a list of like 30 guys that at one time played in the majors with the twins under Gardy and were traded released or didnt fit the twins (gardy) way and these are not even the guys who didnt make the majors, Gardy stucks at helping develope twins players and i didnt even go into the way he handles vet players

    • dluxxx - Sep 30, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      Of all those names you pointed out, I’ve haven’t addressed Garza (well, basically Lohse 2.0). I would have to say only one or two of the others went on to play anywhere descently for another team (relief pitchers Mijares and Neshek). Mijares did just fine for us, and Neshek was released after undergoing Tommy John surgery. You aren’t exactly putting up a list of murder’s row there. I think it’s more a testament of how shitty of players Gardy has had to deal with in his tenure with the Twins.

      Of those 30ish players you listed, only like 8 are even on a major league roster anymore.

      Terry Tiffee. Wow, you though he was a prospect? Luis Rivas? Brian BUSHER? Really? That’s laughable. Thanks for making me smile today.

      • goody20 - Oct 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM

        Seriously it’s comments like this that allow gardy to keep his job.. Every manager gets bad players but the good ones still get something out of them gardy does not. It’s that simple

  14. mjhutmkr - Sep 30, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    The Twins stink and always will.

    Horrible manager and coaches; terrible ownership; inept general manager.

    The organization is supposed to have the best prospects over the next 2-3 years.

    If they continue to lose 90-100 games then the whole team should be contracted by MLB.

  15. mjhutmkr - Sep 30, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    The Twins are a top 5 pick in the MLB draft in June.

    Awesome!!

    Just rewards for perpetual ineptitude!!

  16. Minoring In Baseball - Sep 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    The guy does his best with what he’s got, which lately hasn’t been much more than a Triple-A team. I’m sure there are many fans who would love to see him at the helm of their team.

    http://minoringinbaseball.com/

  17. TBaySlim - Oct 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    dluxxx – Sep 30, 2013 at 5:38 PM
    Of all those names you pointed out, I’ve haven’t addressed Garza (well, basically Lohse 2.0). I would have to say only one or two of the others went on to play anywhere descently for another team (relief pitchers Mijares and Neshek). Mijares did just fine for us, and Neshek was released after undergoing Tommy John surgery. You aren’t exactly putting up a list of murder’s row there. I think it’s more a testament of how shitty of players Gardy has had to deal with in his tenure with the Twins.

    Of those 30ish players you listed, only like 8 are even on a major league roster anymore.

    Terry Tiffee. Wow, you though he was a prospect? Luis Rivas? Brian BUSHER? Really? That’s laughable. Thanks for making me smile today.

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    glad i made you smile sir, hope you smile for the money your shelling out to watch a pathetic product on the field, i know i have not in years and wont.
    going on to my prospect point, yes i said prospect no bonifide super stars, lets see Rivas started at 2b for 3-4 years and regressed, Buscher started 60 some games at 3rb base in 08 and was originally a 3rd round draft choice…Tiffee was a draft choice from 99 and was a 3rd basement who was annointed the 3b of the future at one point. just because they dont make it big in the majors doesnt mean there is not a flaw in the logic of the twins, i means based on your non-sense i suspose since Valencia hasnt done a ton else where, Gardy did everything correct with him here which he did not

    • Cris E - Oct 2, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      What is your point? You listed a bunch of names of minor leaguers that cracked the major league roster and then, what? Most sucked here and elsewhere, proving nothing. Some were dropped when hurt, and some got better later on. Are you complaining that Gardy cuts them too soon or too late, or that he controls his roster too tightly or not at all? That they don’t develop or they don’t get a chance? What are you saying?

      Plouffe is still with the team, so how is it bad that he’s still getting that chance that Danny Valencia (with a V and who never got better) didn’t get in MN?

      Juan Rincon had a great career in MN, appearing in huge numbers of games with a solid ERA+ for 4-5 years. He got hurt and they dumped him. Is that bad?

      Adam Johnson I had to look up: he pitched 1.1 innings for Gardy in 2003 (out of a career total of nearly 27 innings.) How is this even a question?

      If you think prospects don’t develop then how did you leave Liriano off your list? The guy had monster talent and it only came together for a couple years out of six.

      If there’s a point it was muddled, but I did spot the Gardy hatred despite your evidence, so mission accomplished I guess.

  18. fmc651 - Oct 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Some people comment on how Gardy has a triple A team so its not his fault. This is faulty thinking. A real manager doesn’t just let this happen to his team without saying or doing anything. Gardy is just some slob that will take whatever garbage the cheap Twins throw at him. And he can make them worse.A real manager walks, he doesn’t take that job. Gardy might not be at fault completely but he is part of the problem. His team are fundamentally unsound the past 3 years as well. He has given up, they can’t even run basees or hit cutoffs. Untalented playeers can do that. They look at more strikes right down the middle than any team in baseball history. Oh Gardy gets some of the blame here. Now the owners, they are the real problem. They do not even like baseball. They like money so they can make movies and own pepsi franchises. They never kept their word a la Bud Selig. Just build me a stadium and I will have a competitive team. 90 plus losses every year. Ryan the GM hasn’t good, he is awful, you can’t tell the difference from what Ryan is doing and Smith. Major problems all around this team.So the Twins they needed someone to sit and take it in the dugout. Gardy can do that.
    What is Gardy’s playoff record? poor, Gardy had the Cy Young winner, the batting Champ and the MVP of the league and couldn’t win a series in the playoffs. I do not believe that has ever been done before in the history of the game. FEEL proud, heck of a job there Gardy.

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