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Fired by Reds, Dusty Baker wants to manage in 2014

Oct 4, 2013, 2:50 PM EDT

Dusty Baker AP

Dusty Baker was fired by the Reds today with one season and $3 million remaining on his contract, which led to speculation that he might decide to take a year off before going after a new gig in 2015.

However, in speaking to the Cincinnati media this afternoon Baker said: “I’m not retiring. I’m not taking a year off unless I’m forced to.”

Baker also confirmed Jon Heyman’s report on CBSSports.com that he balked at general manager Walt Jocketty wanting to fire hitting coach Brook Jacoby, telling C. Trent Rosencraus of the Cincinnati Enquirer:

We talked about Brook about a week ago, and they were talking about replacing him and I didn’t think that was right. All the coaches get blamed for everything. Maybe it was time to go. I did say something like that–and they did it. It wasn’t a mutual thing. There’s probably some other things in there, some things that were said or didn’t get said, stuff that was done over the years and then they said we didn’t have much motivation and spunk over the last week–but our pitching was bad and we didn’t hit.

Baker has repeatedly indicated that he thinks the front office should have added more help at the trade deadline, which probably didn’t set very well with Jocketty either.

  1. andreweac - Oct 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    He and Ruben Amaro are a perfect couple. Tar and feather anybody who uses stats that require an electronic thingamajig or math past the 4th grade level. Winning!

  2. bennoj - Oct 4, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    We’ve got an opening here in Seattle, and a whole crop of young pitchers…. This is exactly the kind of move the idiots running the M’s would do.

    • sneezl - Oct 4, 2013 at 6:24 PM

      As a manager, Baker is much like the guy that managed him through the prime of his career, Tommy Lasorda. Relies on set lineups, rigid roles, and veterans. Tends to leave starters in the game too long, and not develop young players/rookies well. Doesn’t get much, if any, use out of the last few players on the bench. Calls for bunts way more often than he should. Keeps peace in the clubhouse.

      Since the Mariners don’t need any of Baker’s “strengths,” they will likely hire him.

      • timburns116 - Oct 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM

        Yens, he really never developed the club he was in 2008: Votto still stinks, Jay Bruce is poor, Jonny Cueto has never been good, and poor Aroldis Chapman has never gotten his way

        3 playoffs in 5 years is a record the Marlins or M’s could only dream of

  3. bengalsucker - Oct 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    As hard as it is to admit, I agree that it was a mistake for Jocketty to not go after someone at the trade deadline. Or at the very least, block the Byrd claim by the Pirates just so he won’t go there. But they stayed flat and did nothing. Obviously it wasn’t the right move. Pirates picked up Byrd then Morneau and went on to be successful. But Dusty still had no fire in that clubhouse. Everyone was too comfortable with him. They obviously walked all over him (see BP bust into Dusty’s office during media interview and yell at reporter while Dusty did nothing to stop him). It was time for him to go. I was originally wanting to see Brian Price (pitching coach) get the nod but now after seeing a comment by Sam LeCure (Red’s pitcher), that worries me too. He said that the comfortability with Price was already there with the players and that the team needs someone to come in and “ruffle some feathers”. Sounds to me like he believes the attitude won’t change if Price, or any other manager in the organization, gets the nod.

    • gammagammahey - Oct 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      The Byrd thing was utterly baffling. Everyone knew that the Pirates wanted Byrd and likewise that the Mets wouldn’t give him up on a straight waiver claim. If the Reds had put in a claim, the worst that would have happened is that they’d have blocked the Pirates. There was no way they were going to get “stuck” with Byrd, as though an .840+ OPS corner OF making barely over the minimum would be a bad thing to get stuck with.

  4. gbrim - Oct 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Saw Price continually overachieve as AZ pitching coach. If the Reds don’t want him he will have another MLB job offer in about 10 minutes.

  5. @Cereal_22 - Oct 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Say what you will, the guy is a good manager who wins everywhere he goes.

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM

      .526 winning % is a good manager? It’s a meh manager in my book

    • moogro - Oct 4, 2013 at 4:54 PM

      I will say this, it’s baseball: everyone wins wherever they go.

  6. Marty McKee - Oct 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Jocketty does deserve some blame. His biggest mistake was thinking that Ryan Ludwick was “the answer.” That he was going to come back at age 35 after a major industry and play like he did the second half of 2012 (remember, he was worthless during the first half). Nobody but Baker and Jocketty were dumb enough to believe this. Instead of trying to find a capable LFer, Jocketty allowed Heisey, Paul, Robinson, etc. to kill time until Ludwick’s return. As predicted (though he did have three hits in the WC game), Ludwick was worthless when he returned, and that was accentuated by Dusty’s bizarre decision to move him into the #2 slot.

    Jocketty also deserves blame for the Reds having a terrible bench, though I assume Dusty had a lot to do with the Reds’ foolish settling on guys like Valdez, Castro, Hannahan, Izturis, etc.

  7. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 4, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    The Yankees should hire him if they can’t keep Girardi, Dusty likes playing old guys.

    • timburns116 - Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      He would be great in that clubhouse

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM

        I am guessing Dusty is older than most of the Yankees lineup.

  8. lew24 - Oct 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    The Nats?

    • weaselpuppy - Oct 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM

      That would be my guess, Nats…

    • metalhead65 - Oct 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      say goodbye to straussberg and your other good young starting pitchers then.

      • timburns116 - Oct 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM

        Where doès this mindless and silly talking point come from? Homer Bailey and Matt Latos are fine and Johhny C’s arm issues are due to his size, not over-work

      • metalhead65 - Oct 6, 2013 at 4:20 PM

        homer made it thru this season but had shoulder problems the last 2 and don’t look now but lato’s has elbow problems and was not available to pitch against the pirates when they needed him. marshall and braxton missed most of the season with arm and shoulder problems.

  9. surly1n1nd1anapol1s - Oct 4, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    For the record Justin Morneau would seem useless for this team.

  10. drewzducks - Oct 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    He’d look good in pinstripes as Joe heads home to coach his beloved Cubs, a team that actually appears to have a future.

  11. metalhead65 - Oct 4, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    the reds pitching was bad? maybe if he knew when it was time to take a pitcher out instead sending him back out when everyone but him knew he was done the pitching would not have been bad. but dusty must leave them untill they reach 100 pitches or give up 10 or more runs,or at least surrender the lead in which case they come out. seriously he did this every game.after all the damage is done then he goes to his bullpen. and the only bad pitching I saw was from reynolds and the other useless guys they called up from louisville.

  12. americasdream12 - Oct 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Baker has proven over and over he can’t win in the post season. He did good at getting his young players into the playoffs in 2010 but never won a series in 3 post seasons. Jacoby never made the Red hitters better than they was coming up from the minors and Baker defended him? CRAZY! I hope Chris Spier gets the managers job and Ken Griffey Sr. becomes the bench coach and hitting coach. Chris Spier was a blood and guts player with the Giants and had the Reds playing their best baseball last season when Dusty was out with a stroke. I wish Baker the best of luck in his future but Dusty don’t play the race card as the reason you was fired, the Reds fans embraced you during your stay.

    • timburns116 - Oct 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM

      No, they didn’t. Sports talk and Hal McCoy’s column and the Cincy papers were always filled with people wanting him fired. Methinks, you protest too much

  13. thomas844 - Oct 4, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    The Cubs have an opening. Just sayin’ lol.

  14. skipcastaneda - Oct 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Dusty is a disciple of Lasorda when it comes to pitching. Lasorda felt a pitcher should finish what he starts. Lasorda blew pitchers arms out. So does Dusty. Don’t worry, Baker will have a job in 2014.

    • timburns116 - Oct 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM

      What arm did blow up in Cincy!

  15. junglerat524 - Oct 5, 2013 at 6:50 AM

    That whole blowing out arms thing is a joke.

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