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UPDATE: Larry Bowa joins the Phillies coaching staff

Oct 8, 2013, 9:06 AM EDT

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UPDATE: It’s official: Larry Bowa and Pete Mackanin have joined Phillies staff as bench coach and 3rd base coach. Wally Joyner is out.

9:06 AMWe first talked about this in September, but now it looks like it’s gonna happen. Jim Salisbury of reports that Larry Bowa is nearing an agreement to become the Phillies’ new bench coach.

Salisbury notes that Bowa is a friend and confidant of manager Ryne Sandberg’s, going back to their time on the Cubs in the early 80s when the former mentored the future Hall of Famer. Now, with Charlie Manuel out and his coaching staff being swept out after him, Sandberg understandably wants his own folks in place.

On the one hand I get it. Bowa, with managerial experience and the confidence of the manager, is sort of the prototypical bench coach in a certain way. Most of us didn’t even really think about the existence of bench coaches until we saw Don Zimmer at Joe Torre’s elbow for all of those years in the 90s, and it’s the same general deal there: ex-manager who can be a second set of eyes and someone who the skipper can bounce things off of. And his senior status is such that there isn’t some simmering job envy between them which could be weird.

On the other hand, Bowa has always been kind of a hothead who was known for berating players back when he managed. That’s not a trait you want in your bench coach. If anything, you’d want your bench coach who can be a guy that can bring player concerns to the manager and/or help communicate the manager’s diktats to the players if needed. Bowa is not exactly the great communicator.

Maybe his time away from the dugout has mellowed him. Maybe he’ll be able to adapt to the gig and not approach it the same way he did when he ran the Phillies ten years ago. But it will be interesting to watch regardless.

  1. DelawarePhilliesFan - Oct 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Giving the disclaimer that there may be issues that happened that I just don’t remember….I don’t recall any players having issues with his as a Coach, it was all as a Manager. So I think this will be a positive. Just doubt that if Scott Rolen comes out of retirement, it will be with the Phils….

  2. loslonelyman - Oct 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    EXACTLY, the only mistake Bowa made was pushing all the wrong buttons with Rolen. It was a defining situation when the teams best young player viciously wanted out and Bowa never could overcome it. Bowa says on MLB network he respects the veterans on this team. So maybe Bowa can correctly push and instruct veterans and leave the young guys to RyneO.

  3. greymares - Oct 8, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Still hoping they trade Jimmy Rollins but if he stays there’s somebody to kick him in the ass.

  4. Old Gator - Oct 8, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    This is too bad. I was hoping that Bowa might have joined the Democrats. They could really use him.

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM

      I am genuinely curious as to how you think Bowa can improve the Democrats.

  5. loslonelyman - Oct 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Yeah, the shine is off the Nationals… Gator. Lyndon “Davey” Johnson ran that franchise into the ground in one stinking year. I am a Phillies fan. If the Phillies had failed with all that talent, i would have supported a firing squad for everyone involved.

  6. cabrera24 - Oct 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Trade Rollins , trade Howard ,let Halladay walk away , bring up Maikel Franco from the minors to play shortstop . Trade for Carlos Gomez , trade for Edwin Encarnacion . Bring back Ruiz

    1. Revere Cf
    2. Gomez LF
    3. Utley 2b
    4. Encarnacion 1b
    5. Brown RF
    6. Franco SS
    7. Asche 3B
    8. Ruiz C

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 8, 2013 at 11:01 AM

      How much of Howards contract are you prepared to eat Cabrera?

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Oct 8, 2013 at 12:08 PM

        $19 Mil a year, and yes, I do think some AL team would do that deal. Sure there will be an insane amount of flack, but what’s done is done as far as old contracts, it’s time to move forward. You have a capable (but still a work in process) 1st baseman whould you can pay the Major League minimum, and you can spend the saved $5 mil to fill some other holes

        And yes, I know you didn’t ask me 😉

      • Francisco (FC) - Oct 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM

        Just pretend it’s warm apple pie…

  7. moose2k - Oct 8, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Trade Howard, good luck with that.

  8. cabrera24 - Oct 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Yea your right…

  9. phillphan - Oct 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    I would think Craig would have bigger concerns than who the phillies bench coach is going to be,you know after the braves got swept and all??

  10. earpaniac - Oct 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    My favorite DP combo of my childhood is reunited!!

  11. phillyfanmatt - Oct 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Ummm Franco can’t play shortstop. Experts are not even sure he can handle the defense at third on the MLB level so ya lets move him to short. Makes sense to me.

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 9, 2013 at 11:09 AM

      Well if Jeter can do it…

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