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David Price expects to be traded this offseason

Oct 10, 2013, 9:00 AM EDT

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David Price has been around Tampa Bay for a while. He knows how they roll. And he too believes that he’ll be on the trading block this winter. Marc Topkin has Price’s comments from Wednesday:

“If you go with what’s been done in the past, I guess you’re going to have to think you’re going to get traded,” Price, 28, said. “That’s kind of the way it’s happened with this organization when pitchers kind of get to this period in their career. We’ve seen it happen a couple of times already. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I know what’s happened in the past.”

They’d probably get a nice haul for him. If your team needs pitching and has prospects, get used to hearing Price’s name in the news as the hot stove warms up.

UPDATE: I talked about a potential Price trade on SportsDash on the NBC Sports Network today:

  1. jarathen - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    Trumbo/Bourjos and obviously something else (Richards?) for Price, maybe?

    I’d say Kendrick, but he costs nearly as much as Price does.

    • slizzyslizz - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      Very ambitious to think that. Use the Shields deal as a blueprint (Myers and Odorizzi). Friedman would absolutely want elite prospects and that offer gives none. Also, Price is way more valuable than Shields…so that would have to be considered into the equation.

      Watch the Cubs because of two things:

      A) They have elite prospects
      B) They can afford to sign him to a 9 figure extension
      C) Big market teams can never have enough great pitching

      Look for the framework of the potential Cubs deal to be something like this:

      -Javier Baez (Rays need a long term answer at ss and Cubs have Castro)
      -Almora or Soler
      -Mike Olt or Anthony Rizzo or Vogelbach (Cubs have their 3B of the future in Bryant and one of those three is expendable due to depth at first)

      Shoot, none might pan out like the fleecing of the Mariners for Fister. To get a sure thing is worth trading the aforementioned prospects.

      • slizzyslizz - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:22 AM

        Three*

        …need to actually proofread :)

      • Alex K - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:47 AM

        I don’t see the Cubs trading two of Baez, Soler, and Almora. I wouldn’t be shocked if they would part with one of them, but two seems high. Price is an ace, but the Cubs aren’t an ace away from competition.

        The Rays M.O. in past trades has been to get pitching back, as well. I don’t know if any of the Cubs pitching prospects would intrest the Rays enough to trade Price.

        I also seriously doubt that they trade Rizzo because they signed him long term, and Hoyer loves him.

      • paperlions - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:58 AM

        The best matches for a Price trade are teams that don’t value the years of cheap cost-controlled talent…and that is valuable no matter what your payroll. I don’t see the Cubs as a good match conceptually because they understand the value they are giving up and in return all you get is 2 years of expensive control of a pitcher. Even if he is signed to an extension, that isn’t part of what you are getting in trade and it will have to be crazy expensive to get him to forego FA.

        The Meyers deal is absolutely NOT a blueprint for smart teams because that deal was freaking horrible for KC in terms of value.

        As Alex said, the Cubs may give up one guy, but no more…and they may not even do that because position players don’t have the attrition rate of pitchers…it is always better to be the team getting the position player than the pitcher (assuming equal talent/value).

      • jeffbbf - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:59 AM

        Nope. Cubs will continue to develop their prospects. If they want Price, they’ll sign him when he becomes a free agent in 2 years, which will be about the time they should be getting serious about contending. No chance in hell they take Price when the team isn’t ready to contend – at the cost of their top prospects.

      • steve7921 - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:00 AM

        Cubs maybe a potential for other reasons but Baez makes no sense…Escobar is 30 and the Rays already got Hak-Ju Lee from the Cubs in the Garza trade (was injured this year) and have Tim Beckham. No need to add another SS prospect to the mix.

        Almora and Olt make sense. Rays were rumored to be interested in Olt for Garza.

      • slizzyslizz - Oct 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM

        Alex – excellent point about the pitching. I was going off the top of my head and you are 100% right that Friedman will get an arm in return. And Rizzo has a “size-able” contract extension due his way. I’m guessing they take a flier on one of their moderate pitching prospects. That eliminates Rizzo and Soler.

        Paperlions – I always enjoy your posts bc they make you think. I wholeheartedly agree with you on the fact they like cheap, cost controlled talent. However, I disagree with one prospect. They are getting a Cy-Young caliber pitcher in the prime of his career (a dollar) for spare change. There is a reason they’re prospects and not Major Leaguers yet. They offer the hype. I’m not saying it will happen where Theo decides to go Ruben Amaro, but I envision a deal involving multiple top tier prospects.

        Steve – Beckham experiment at SS is over. They moved him to second. By mentioning Lee it only strengthens the argument for trading Baez bc there is the chance he never develops.

      • Alex K - Oct 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        I love the idea of having David Price on my favorite baseball team. I don’t love the idea of my favorite baseball team giving up multiple top prospects in order to have David Price on my favorite baseball team when they are a year or two from contending. I feel like Jed and Theo think the same way.

      • bigmeechy74 - Oct 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

        I really hope the cubs don’t deal baez, almora or Soler. They aren’t close to contending. What would be the point in giving up their potential future stars? I wish they would’ve tried to deal castro before last season. That extension they gave him looks awful. He isn’t good. He is the SS version of Marmol. Tons of promise, epic flame out. I have a bad feeling that Rizzo isn’t all he’s cracked up to be either.

    • bigmeechy74 - Oct 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM

      What??? Fans of teams are hilarious. You are obviously an angels fan. Sounds like a typical yankee fan that says things like “We should trade for either Harper or Trout. Maybe Chris Stewart, Phil Hughes, and Eduardo Nunez?” Did you actually say “kendrick, but he costs as nearly as much as price….” like they are in the same stratosphere of value? alskglashdglashgoawhihgawopehgaohswgoAWIHJ

      • jarathen - Oct 11, 2013 at 7:45 AM

        Just pie in the sky dreaming, bigmeechy.

  2. rbj1 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Oh, “has prospects.” Leaves the Yankees out of it.

    • indaburg - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      I know you’re making a joke at the expense of the Yankees, but even if they did have the prospects, it wouldn’t happen. The Rays don’t trade within the division.

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:45 AM

        Drat! Jays fans would love to have Price as he pitches well against AL East teams.

      • Kevin S. - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:58 AM

        They really have that policy? I’d have thought they’d be smarter than that.

      • indaburg - Oct 11, 2013 at 8:58 AM

        It’s not a written in stone commandment, but that has been their tendency. A look at their trading history on Baseball Reference shows that the Rays have one transaction with the Yankees (the Yankees purchased Nick Green from the Rays–I don’t count that as a trade). Only one trade with the Red Sox, back in 1999 prior to current Rays ownership and management. One trade with the Jays in 2004, also prior to current ownership. Then only true trade was with the Orioles in 2009:

        August 7, 2009: The Baltimore Orioles traded Gregg Zaun to the Tampa Bay Rays for a player to be named later. The Tampa Bay Rays sent Rhyne Hughes (August 15, 2009) to the Baltimore Orioles to complete the trade. (Not exactly earth shattering stuff.)

        Source: http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/trade-partners.cgi?franch_ID_1=TBD&franch_ID_2=BAL

      • rbj1 - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM

        I am a Yankees fan. In for a rough few years. I do give Cashman credit for building a competitive team on the fly this year, but the lack of a decent farm system gets my blood boiling.

      • bostonjerry23 - Oct 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        The Red Sox have the same policy about not making trades within the division.

      • indaburg - Oct 11, 2013 at 8:51 AM

        Yep. Why strengthen your direct opponents? The only trade between the Red Sox and Rays occurred back in 1999.

    • basedrum777 - Oct 10, 2013 at 12:25 PM

      Oh right why would a top 10 ranked farm system have any prospects….

  3. gdog97 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    If only Terry Ryan had the sack to make an offer for him.

    • alexo0 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      Why? So he can gut the farm system, which is the foundation for the team’s plan for contention in the near future, to trade for a pitcher (who will leave in two years anyway) to help a team that would still not be good enough to contend?

  4. lyon810 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    As much as I would love the Angels to land him, the guys you mentioned have too much service time. Tampa wants guys they can control for several years

    • 2077james - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      Agreed. Maybe Texas with Profar involved? Whoever it is, I imagine they’d have real mixed feelings about going there. Playing for a contender is nice, but playing half your games in that stadium…

      • bendover09 - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:32 AM

        @James ,
        In 2014, Texas payroll will only be 87 million .. that means a lot of flexibility with a whole lot of cash to spend.

        Craig, you should make a post of the upcoming payrolls for the teams so I do not have to fight my damn phone keys

      • ptfu - Oct 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM

        Ask and ye shall receive. Cot’s is great for payroll info.

        http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/

      • hk62 - Oct 10, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        And TEX has the pitching prospects to do this – unless TB gets a great offer from an NL team, its probably TEX over LAA (my opinion anyway). But, do not forget SF here – only question being how long TB is willing to wait for the pitching prospects to get to MLB. SF’s best are AA and lower. After finishing 4th, I bet they really try to get it done. And they have the money to do an extension. Just will leave their system bare again (can you say C Beltran trade – which is really bad for SF).

    • paperlions - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:02 AM

      The Angels have a barren farm system.

      • km9000 - Oct 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM

        And old McDonald was a terrible speller.

    • jarathen - Oct 10, 2013 at 11:19 AM

      Probably so. I was throwing something out there, but the Angels no longer have any kind of minor league haul to offer. They have CJ Cron, who is a solid bat but a 1B/DH already, and Kaleb Cowart, who is at a position of desperate need for the big league club.

      What I was getting at is more players who can contribute Day 1 to the Rays, but they obviously want more Major League-ready talent than Major League-proven.

  5. indaburg - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Trading him makes sense following the Rays’ economic model. To maximize return for him in terms of prospects, now is the time. I don’t want him to go, but this is reality for Tampa Bay and this, more than anything, defines the Rays Way. Restock the farm using a prize jewel.

    • convincedofthehex - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      He’s somewhat overrated. His playoff numbers are terrible. The beginning of this year was terrible too, (although possibly injury related). His best years may be behind him. If the Rays can get a good haul for him, they should do it. Odorizzi is ready. Neimann will be back by the half way point. Archer is developing nicely. Cobb and Moore make a pretty stout 1 – 2.

      • steve7921 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:53 AM

        He is not overrated. He lacks consistency but has shown periods of dominance! Plus the anemic Rays offense has affected his wins totals. At 28, he is coming into his prime years and every other GM would want him on their staff! It all depends on Friedman’s desire to get a deal done and what he will get in return. He will get just as much as Shields in return, if not more.

        Niemann will only pitch for the Rays as reliever if at all….no need to keep him when you have Odorizzi and Colome ready to step in plus Torres has been only a starter until this year.

        I see the rotation next year as Cobb, Moore, Archer, Odorizzi and Torres….Hellickson will either be in the bullpen or AAA.

      • dan1111 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:58 AM

        He has made a grand total of four playoff starts. I don’t think you can tell much from that.

        “His best years may be behind him”–you could say that about literally every player. But I don’t see a reason to worry about Price in particular. He is one year removed from his best season. This year he was as dominant as last year after returning from his injury.

  6. chill1184 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    So what GM ends up being the next victim of Andrew Friedman’s baseball Jedi mind tricks?

    • 2077james - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      Surely Dayton Moore can’t be fleeced twice?

      • dan1111 - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:01 AM

        In fairness to Moore, Kansas City had an unexpectedly great season, nearly making the playoffs, while the Rays were a disappointment, getting eliminated from the ALDS.

      • km9000 - Oct 10, 2013 at 12:19 PM

        Yeah, it’s a shame they only get to keep Myers for one year.

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      I’d say Ruben but he doesn’t have anything Andrew wants.

  7. watermelon1 - Oct 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    So… Orioles?

  8. cabrera24 - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Blue Jays will be the best fit .

  9. imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    I’m calling the Giants as the team that trades for Price. They need to do something to keep up with the Dodgers.

  10. stephenolszewski - Oct 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Indians could use Price in their rotation. Have Price, Ubaldo, Masterson, Salazaar, and Kluber would be pretty nice I must say

  11. APBA Guy - Oct 10, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    The Rays Way is the blueprint for what Oakland does as well: see trades of Haren, Cahill, and Gio. Mr. Anderson will be the next to go once he’s healthy, or if he regains his health. “It’s the smart play. Tessio was always smarter.” GM’s are not betraying their fan-base by doing this: they have to do it to stay competitive. The wrinkle the Rays have added that the A’s have not is that the Rays signed Longioria to a long term-face of the franchise deal, which is wise from a marketing standpoint. Oakland did that with last with Chavez, who promptly was too injured to play for 3 years. So the G & P Beane is a little gun-shy on that point now.

  12. bigmeechy74 - Oct 10, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Does anyone ever actually fall for this crap?

  13. runteddyrun - Oct 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Nats have great pitching prospects and some of them showed real potential at the big league level toward the end of this season. They are also looking to fill that final spot in an already dominate rotation. I would not be surprised to see them as big players.

  14. chrisernst82 - Oct 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Cardinal fan here, so here is my homer option for them.

    We have a serious (seriously good) problem next year In the OF and 1B.

    Allen Craig couls do wonders for TB. Legit bat behind Longo, he needs it.

    Top prospect Carlos Martinez and Kolten Wong.

    We could afford sending Craig, Kelly and Carlos IMO for him and a decent MiLB player. Maybe adding Jenkins and Hellckson.

    I dont see a loser in that one. I know there isn’t a lineup in baseball that wouldt find a spot for Craig. Wong doesn’t have a spot unless we move Carp to 3rd. But then what about freeze?

    We have a logjam and a need for a 5th pitcher. Wainwright, Price, Miller, Wacha and Kelly would be th top Rotation in baseball in my openion?

    Tell me why im wrong, im curious?

  15. hitdog042 - Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    This is what happens when you have the worst fan base in sports. He should be begging for a trade.

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