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Down 2-0 in NLCS, Dodgers appear doomed

Oct 12, 2013, 8:22 PM EDT

Carl Crawford AP

Not even 24 hours into a seven-game series, the Dodgers’ World Series hopes are already on life support. By failing to secure either of the first two games with Zack Greinke and Clayton Kershaw on the mound, they’ve become huge long shots to defeat the Cardinals in the NLCS.

If there’s any reason for the Dodgers to take heart, it’s that the matchups haven’t dictated the series so far. The Dodgers figured to have the edges in the first two games, even with the series in St. Louis, because they had their big two going and the Cardinals were starting Joe Kelly and Michael Wacha. Obviously, it didn’t work out as they’d like. But they can psyche themselves up by claiming their own underdog status now, especially against Adam Wainwright in Game 3.

Unfortunately, the Dodgers now have to beat Wainwright once if they’re going to win the series. And Hyun-Jin Ryu didn’t appear up to that kind of task during a shaky NLDS start against the Braves. Rumored to be battling elbow and/or back problems, he gave up four runs in three innings in that one.

But Monday’s Game 3 will be practically a must-win game against a pitcher who is 4-0 with a 2.03 ERA and a 57/7 K/BB ratio in 48 2/3 career innings in the postseason. A victory will be even more improbable if Hanley Ramirez, the Dodgers’ best hitter, can’t go after injuring his ribs on a HBP in Game 1 and missing Game 2. Ramirez’s absence played a huge role in Saturday’s 1-0 loss; he’s performed as well as anyone in the National League when healthy this season.

Without Ramirez, the Dodgers could well go down quietly from here. Yasiel Puig seems lost at the plate, Andre Ethier is limited and Game 4 starter Ricky Nolasco was a disaster at the end of the regular season. Things couldn’t possibly have broken better for the Cardinals.

  1. Staff - Oct 12, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Reblogged this on SoshiTech.

  2. elwaysmilehighdenver - Oct 12, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    Dodgers DOA at LAX

    • km9000 - Oct 13, 2013 at 3:02 AM


  3. missingdiz - Oct 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Cards 3 wins, Giants 1. Barry Zito.

    If you didn’t get what I meant, Bucky Fucking Dent!

    • cardsfan0611 - Oct 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM

      Since the Dodgers don’t get games 6 & 7 at home like the Giants did, your hopes seem a bit misplaced. But hey, Zito is going to be available next year if the Dodgers need him.

      • thebestfaninbaseball - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

        You get a thumbs up just for that awesome Dr. Seuss-esque rhyme.

  4. thebestfaninbaseball - Oct 12, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    As a Cards fan, I’m not going to breathe easy until the last Dodgers out. At the All-Star break that team was a laughingstock and then they went 42-8.

  5. themagicfanguy - Oct 12, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    @Staff Nobody f***ing cares if you re-blogged this at some sh*t site! We’re in the comments of an article! Why the f*** would we go to another site to read the same piece we just f***ing read?!?

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Oct 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM

      Magic, take a deep breath. I recall reading that if someone re-blogs an item from here, the kind of comment you see from Staff is generated automatically.

    • apkyletexas - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM

      @themagicfanguy – you can lose the “nobody” and “we” crap from your comments right the f*** now, pal. You don’t speak for me on any topic, I can absolutely f***ing assure you of that.

  6. spyder9669 - Oct 12, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    And Dodger fans everywhere can now shut thy mouths. Just another year and they are who we thought they were. Still not the Giants. Seeya next year losers.

    • shaqamento - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM

      atleast they kicked those sf flukes to the curb ,we wont be seeing those bums for another 54 yrs,losers

    • koufaxmitzvah - Oct 13, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      Such a tough talker. And anonymous, too! I bet your family is thrilled to have you living in the basement.

      The bright side is, if the Dodgers didn’t go down 2-0 in this series, then loser Giants fans like you wouldn’t be here, exposing all that baseball knowledge, which as you can tell, fits a 2-sentence paragraph whose central focus is bashing Dodgers fans.

  7. istallion - Oct 12, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    I’m sure Card players and fans were patting Kelly on the back for taking out dodgers best hitter. Oh well, if that’s how they want to win – without class, they got what they wanted.

    No kemp, no Ramirez, no Ethier……hard to win with bench scrubs.

    • cardsfan0611 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:01 PM

      You are the one showing no class for saying Kelly hit Hanley intentionally. Cry me a river. Every team in baseball has injuries – it’s part of the game. You probably failed to notice the long list of Cardinals watching from the bench – guys like Garcia, Carpenter, Craig, Motte, Westbrook. Beltran and Molina are playing with bad knees. Adams with a bad elbow. Our GM had to turn over almost the whole bullpen and two of the starters.

      Stop whining – there’s a lot of baseball left and anything can happen. But if the Los Angeles Yankees… opps, I meant Dodgers, can’t beat a bunch of kids who collectively make less than one of your superstars, then they don’t deserve to go the Series anyway.

    • emykk - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      I am sure Joe Kelly feels awful for having hurt Ramirez, because that’s just how Cardinals players are. They don’t target people, and they don’t enjoy other peoples’ pain.

    • fearlessleader - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      I’m going to chalk istallion’s idiotic comment up to his/her frustration over the first two games of this series, because no thinking person could actually believe that a nervous rookie pitcher would try to hit a batter in the first inning of an NLCS game with one out and a runner on.

    • thebestfaninbaseball - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:40 PM

      Dodgers fans have been on their juice cleanses too long if they think that HBP was intentional. Kelly was bouncing pitches all over the place that inning. Phantom tags, assassin pitchers–is Oliver Stone part of the Dodgers’ ownership group now?

      • apkyletexas - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:30 PM

        Wow! A Dodgers fans’ “juice cleanses” blast from St. Louis fan.

        Finally, things are heating up a little!

      • koufaxmitzvah - Oct 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM

        I would say this comment takes the cake. And you guys were concerned about the umpire’s strike zone….

        The Dodgers have a right to be as intense in this game as you, if not even more so.

        With your attitude, no matter the outcome, you will always be a Chump and not a Champ.

      • thebestfaninbaseball - Oct 13, 2013 at 11:11 AM

        I think you’re just crabby because you’ll have to skip your Monday night yoga to watch the game. Lighten up, Francis.

    • shaqamento - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

      mattinly a little bitch, beltran needs to go down, teams have hit puig,handly and that sissy wont do nothing, if dodgers lose series, hesFIRED !

  8. buffalo65 - Oct 12, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    One home win and we have a series.

    • cardsfan0611 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:02 PM

      You already have a series. But if you get only one home win, it will be over.

    • apkyletexas - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      Pedro Alvarez had 3 home runs, and the Bucs still got beat. Although it did go to game 5, mostly due to Pedro’s offense. I guess that at this point, Dodger fan would probably take a game 7.

  9. jason9696 - Oct 12, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    It doesn’t matter. The Red Sox are going to win the World Series either way. They have the best team in MLB. Fuck you Cardinal fans.

    • cardsfan0611 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:04 PM

      Classy, very classy. As for your predictions, I say play the games and see what happens.

    • emykk - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM

      That seems like a bit of a stretch, considering that the Red Sox actually TIED with the Cards for best record in MLB. They are both great teams, as are the Tigers and the Dodgers. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be here.

    • perryt200 - Oct 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

      you might not be watching the same ACLS game i am. after 8 innings Boston doesn’t seem a shoe in

    • kylewo - Oct 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

      Red Sox just got one hit at home.

    • danh35 - Oct 13, 2013 at 10:51 AM

      The Red Sox might be the best team, they were tied with the Cards for best record in baseball. Even if they are, the best regular season team doesn’t always win. As a Cards fan, I want nothing more than the Cards to beat the Red Sox to make up for 2004, when the best regular season team didn’t win.

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 14, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      Wait…look everyone!
      We found the scumbag who took that ball from the lady in the stands managed to somehow trump that by yelling racists comments at a black Tigers fan.

  10. nandeezy33 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    I’ll throw this out there since you want to talk about a “classless move”.

    Kelly was pitching in the 1st INNING.
    There were two outs.
    The count was 1 and 2.
    It’s clearly obvious it was an accident. Perhaps nerves while facing the teams’ best hitter.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Oct 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM

      It’s clear that Cardinal fans on this forum like to cherry pick what is and isn’t important.

      But I saw the tag!! See, right there, in the closeup from 1st base angle in this one frame…. right there, see the elbow and the mitt?

      What do you mean that’s a strike!! Look at this pitch chart!! There, and over here, and way up there!!!`111!

      What do you mean that’s a ball! It hit Yadi in the glove! What do you mean Yadi sets up in the opposite batters box!!

      Seriously…. Get Over Your Lame Bullshit Ass Self. And stop plunking our batters in the 1st inning.

      • fearlessleader - Oct 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

        Koufax, you’re usually one of my favorite commenters on this forum, but you must know this is dumb. There are reasonable people and idiots rooting for both these teams on HBT and elsewhere; A.J. Ellis himself said that the home-plate call was the right one; and the LA media confirmed that no one on the Dodgers thought the HBP was intentional.

        Can’t wait for game 3. Peace!

      • stlouis1baseball - Oct 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        Come on Sandy. This shit is getting out of hand. I have avoided responding to you as I like you. But again…this has to stop.
        I saw the still shot…I saw several replays and I saw it frozen on MLB network. EVERYONE agreed he tagged him on the left elbow. Further, Gary Sheffield even said he had no problems with it anyway as a result of the neighborhood play at second base. But it matters not cause’ he tagged his left elbow. AJ Ellis had no problems with it. Donnie Baseball had no problems with it. That is good enough for me. But you know what? I could give three fucking shits because he tagged him on the left elbow.
        As for Hanley…its unfortunate. But you know damn well you don’t walk a dude when you are up 0 – 2/1 – 2 with the heart of your lineup coming up in a sonofabitchin’ playoff game. And don’t even get me started on Greinke’s back door bullshit strike calls. Cause’ that’s part of the game. So I won’t go there. But you are making it very hard on me.

  11. nandeezy33 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    My apologies. I was guessing as far as the outs were concerned.

    However, with one runner on base proves the point even more so that this was HBP was clearly not meant to happen.

  12. seniorboy - Oct 13, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    wrong, he hit him intentionally and until we put a baseball in Beltran’s ear and knock him into fruit land, we will be known as gutless stragglers. Our best guy is gone, Ethier cannot even see the ball and Puig needs a therapist. Mattingly is the most disingenuous manager in the history of baseball. Imagine Adrian on the bench in the heat of the 10th and 13th innings, imagine, how stupid. How many runners get advanced by the sacrifice bunt in Dodger land? None, they hit into double plays.
    Pathetic loss and pathetic managing and a pathetic team.

    • thebestfaninbaseball - Oct 13, 2013 at 12:30 AM

      No matter how accurate it may be, I think it’s very rude to refer to Los Angeles as “Fruit Land.”

  13. janessa31888 - Oct 13, 2013 at 6:36 AM

    Wow. Playoffs make a lot of us commenters crabby.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Oct 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      Well, in terms of the Giants fans on this thread, life wearing the colors of a shitstain makes them crabby.

  14. MyTeamsAllStink - Oct 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Yasiel Puig is the next Sammy Sosa.An all or nothing slugger who chases the high fastball.

  15. cohnjusack - Oct 13, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Wow, I’m not sure I’ve seen a fan base melt down so rapidly and thoroughly after two games.

    • mkprz - Oct 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM

      Tickets are now $30, where last week they were $100.
      Dodgers melted as fast as their fans.

  16. notsofast10 - Oct 13, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    The Cardinal Pitchers don’t even need to throw strikes, the Dodgers are swinging at EVERYTHING! Uribe struck out on 3 pitches and none of them would have been called a strike. Then there is Puig…ouch! The big Sombrero.

  17. djjackson81 - Oct 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Appear doomed and that’s a bad thing? Or is it just national media wishing LA wins it all? F$&@ LA

  18. mkprz - Oct 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Did we forget, aside from all the yelling over good pitching beating good hotting blah, blah, blah.
    It was the Cardinals PITCHER that got their rally going.
    The PITCHER!!!
    Proves all the theories wrong.

  19. mkprz - Oct 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    The Dodgers are suffering form “Harvey Haddix” syndrome.
    You can shutout the Cardinals all you want, but if you can’t score, you can’t win..

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