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MLB honors GLAAD Spirit Day, baseball fans react like cretins

Oct 17, 2013, 1:49 PM EDT

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Today is GLAAD Spirit Day, an annual event bringing awareness to and promoting the prevention of the bullying of LGBT youth. Major League Baseball has responded in support. Teams’ Twitter avatars have gone purple (the color identifying alliance with Spirt Day) and ervery MLB team has posted a link to GLAAD’s Spirit Day webpage to their Facebook page. Nice gesture for a good cause.

Unfortunately, certain fans are responding to it in awful fashion. Deadspin points out the nasty things Braves fans are posting on the team’s Facebook page.  But it’s not limited to Atlanta. The Dodgers page has multiple horrendous responses. As does the Mets. I’m sure most pages have a showing of cretinism as well.

The ones that gall me the most, however, are not the purely bigoted responses. There are jerks and homophobes and bigots everywhere, and they actually provide a service in identifying themselves. Sort of like a sign near a toxic waste dump, warning us off.

No, the ones who really bug me are the “stick to baseball” crowd who, while not explicitly opposing MLB bringing attention to an important issue, seem to wish sincerely that they not do it.  One wonders if they’d feel that way if they were around in 1947. Or the “stay out of politics” crowd, who apparently think that there’s something “political” about not wanting kids to get bullied, beat up, driven to depression or even suicide because of who and what they are.

Anyway, kudos to Major League Baseball for showing solidarity with a good cause. To those who feel that the prevention of bullying of kids is something which should be shouted down or opposed: Please reevaluate your values, your priorities and your life. Thanks.

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  1. rnrfan - Oct 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Craig, Amen. I’m not reading your many comments right now, though I am sure I agree with most of them, because the ones that I disagree with truly anger me. This is not like debating whether or not Derek Jeter is a good defensive shortstop or even if raising the capital gains tax is an unjust or necessary measure. We’re talking about kids here, the same ones we get so defensive of when we hear they are abused by pedophiles. Kids. Who cares what their sexual orientations are? They’re children who are being abused. To call this politics is disgusting (good call on that one in your column!). There should be no debate here. No child deserves to be bullied.

    • eightyraw - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:14 PM

      Not accepting homosexuals as equals is almost as indefensible as arguing that Jeter is a good defensive shortstop.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      One of the major problems is that the people who insist on believing (all reliable evidence to the contrary) that gays choose to be gay or are the result of adults “luring” children to be gay, simply have no room in their limited world views for the reality that youngsters could know they are gay. So, like the old cigaret ads, they would much rather fight than switch. But education is the only known cure for ignorance.

      • tfbuckfutter - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        The funniest thing about that is those same people who believe being gay is a choice also include the subset of adults who will look at a flamboyant child and call him “queer”.

  2. jlovenotjlo - Oct 17, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Sure, I support the heck out of this. The bullying of LGBT kids is awful, as is bullying in general. Anything we can do to stop it from happening is awesome and I’m all about it.

    However, the MLB teams turning their logos purple is not going to prevent bullies from being mean to other kids who they perceive as being different from them. But I guess as long as people can feel good about themselves for supporting a colored logo, then go ahead, color on. I liken this action of “support” to “liking” something on Facebook in order to make a difference. Good job, activists, keep up the hard work.

    • IdahoMariner - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

      nope, it’s different, in at least two ways.
      1) LBGT kids know (or at least perceive) that many people who play sports have historically been uncomfortable with or outright hostile to LBGT individuals participating in those sports (or even existing)
      ….a significant display of support makes those fans and future athletes feel like they get to enjoy this, too, and maybe, with a lot of talent and hard work, participate, too, without having to deny who they are. so, it’s like lessening the institutional bullying that exists, and giving them hope and acceptance – which gives the kids strength and courage in the face if the relentlessness of cretins.

      and 2) a significant display of support is an attempt to communicate to those who would bully that they are not supported in that effort by some of their idols or heroes, that they aren’t part of some majority keeping the world safe from people who are too different to be tolerated, but instead are becoming the ones who are intolerably different – because we can’t tolerate such bigotry and hatred when it manifests itself as emotional and physical bullying. So many bullies seem to get their “courage” to act from believing there is some sanction for their actions.
      ….a significant display of support for LGBT kids makes clear that they are increasingly on their own when they try to hurt someone for being who they are.

      as a teenager, and now as an adult, I would love to walk into a game and see, overtly, that i am welcomed there, in a very public place, by an institution that historically has not made me feel welcomed.

      a lot different than facebook.

      • jlovenotjlo - Oct 17, 2013 at 9:46 PM

        Okay, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement, and I appreciate that this gesture would make you feel more comfortable in a baseball park. I guess I just get frustrated with what seems like cheap tactics to support a cause, and that was my first reaction to seeing this effort by MLB. I’m glad to hear something like that would be so valued by someone such as yourself.

    • IdahoMariner - Oct 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

      jlovenotjlo – :)

  3. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    For those who don’t know: “cretins” and “homophones” are labels applied to people who don’t worship homosexuals or support them acquiring special “rights.”

    • The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:06 PM

      “Homophobes,” that is.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM

        Homophobes is such a bad word, because no one is scared of gay people. Call those people for what they are:

        Assholes

      • eightyraw - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        @Church

        Exactly. Such a worthless term. I prefer bigots.

        But I’m not sure what kind of vocabulary we are expecting from someone who equates acceptance with worship.

      • The Common Man - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:16 PM

        No, it really does boil down to fear, Church.

        Fear of being hit on. Fear for children and families. Fear of change. Fear of being thought of as gay. Fear of society crumbling. Fear of being outed.

        None of these are rational fears, mind you. And these people are still assholes. They’re just fearful, cowardly assholes.

      • js20011041 - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        While fear of homosexuality in and of itself is a large part of it, I also think you’re not acknowledging the most basic element of fear that drives so much of this. The fear of hell. The fear of the unknown and the fact that no one knows what happens when you die is the driver behind so much of the nonsense that we have to deal with. Fear is absolutely the fuel of religion. Ignorance as well, but mostly fear. As much as we may want to mock people for being anti-homosexual, the fact remains that homosexuality IS a sin in the bible. Now, of course they’re cherry picking what to follow and what not to. And of course the bible is a book of man made fairy tales, but if someone is a follower of Christianity, it really isn’t unreasonable to expect them to be anti-homosexual. If we can change the fear that leads to the irrational belief in, if not god then at the very least organized religion, a lot of this may go away. Or at least people will no longer have something to hide behind to justify their hatred.

    • cur68 - Oct 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

      Holy fuck. Is this guy for real?

      • Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM

        I looked him up, he’s a neo-Nazi. So yeah, for real, unfortunately.

    • kylewo - Oct 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM

      Look at this loony tunes guy’s webpage. It hosts anti-semitic texts, and racist youtube videos. Wow.

      “There is no more dreadful tyrrany than when Jews…” You get the point.

      http://grandoccident.wordpress.com/

    • tom b - Oct 18, 2013 at 8:06 AM

      Yeah, not for nothing and I’m just saying, but when will MLB have a little compassion and balls for those hundreds whites who got the crap beat out of them by black flash mobbers who committed real hate crimes? Is there a PAG for them? I guess compassion only is offered to certain groups. It’s unfortunate that any group is singled out for violence. It’s just that “some group are more equal than others” The hypocracy is scandalous. This whole business smacks of neo marxism.

    • rpearlston - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      To what “special rights” do you refer? Are you talking about the right to do the same things, legally, that you do? What is so special about being able to marry the person you love? You have that right, but in many places, gays and lesbians do not. Or, are you talking about receiving survivor benefits, just as your spouse would receive, after your death? Again, you have that right, but in many places, gays and lesbians do not. What else? Really, what else do list as “special rights”, and why should you have them when not everyone else does. Or perhaps the better solution isn’t to outlaw same sex marriages, but to outlaw every marriage that is heterosexual.

      YOu know what? THat last one sounds just about right. That would mean that you would begin to understand that there is no such thing as “special rights”, there there are only human rights, and they ought to be enjoyed by everyone, even those who, like yourself, would insist on denying them to others..

      That’s correct – there is no such thing as a special right – there is only rights and discrimination, and you seem to fall on the wrong side of that line.

      • The Grand Occident - Oct 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

        Then explain why the FBI investigates this phony crime right away:

        http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/lesbian-who-carved-cross-into-own-chest-in-fake-hate-crime-gets-seven-days

        but would never do this for a straight White homeowner.

        Special rights and privileges exist, you’re too warped to see it.

  4. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    I’ve said this from the start: the “anti-bullying” crusade is just an excuse to let the homosexuals run wild.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      homosexuals run wild.

      And what would happen if we allowed gay people to act just like straight people, and were treated the same as straight people, and enjoyed all the benefits that straight people had?

      Come on, let’s debate this. Don’t chicken out and refuse to comment.

      • eightyraw - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        Indoctrination! All the kids will turn gay! Human race will die out! Think before you ask such a stupid question, Church’.

      • The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

        Gays aren’t straight, and the lifestyles are not “equal.”

        One lifestyle often leads to reproduction – the other never can.

        Disallowing a mentally ill fringe group (gays) from having societal influence isn’t “hate” or “homophobia” – it’s just common sense. I make no religious arguments, only scientific ones. Have you spent one minute of your life looking at the numbers behind the gay “lifestyle?” At the disease rates, the mental illness rates, the domestic violence rates?

        Keep ignoring the laws of nature, and keep enjoying the reactions of nature, like AIDS.

      • Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

        Yes, and black people aren’t white, and women aren’t men, and there are lifestyle differences between them. What does that have to do with whether or not they should all enjoy equal protection under the law?

        As for reproduction, are we in some sort of a shortage of reproduction either nationally or globally? Does the world need yet more people? Why is that even an argument? If we were down to our last few thousand members of our race that argument might make some sort of sense, but even then reproduction simply as a method of continuing the species could still be separated from relationships.

        What evidence do you have that homosexuality is a mental illness? Virtually all accredited psychiatric organizations disagree with that assessment.

        I have looked at the numbers behind the things you mention. You can find similar numbers for poor people, for several racial minorities, for women, etc. How much of that is due to their homosexuality and how much of that is due to the trauma society inflicts upon them starting from a young age due to that sexuality? And what does any of that have to do with whether or not they should have equal treatment under the law?

        Finally, in nature, its getting difficult at this point to find species that do not have a percentage of homosexual members. Most mammals seem to. If we are following the ‘laws of nature’ I guess homosexuality is pretty normal.

        AIDS, of course, is a virus that makes no distinction between homosexuals or heterosexuals, for the record.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

        One lifestyle often leads to reproduction – the other never can.

        And your response to the 30% of couples that can’t reproduce without the assistance of a fertility clinic? Do they deserve your ire as well, since they can’t reproduce?

        Disallowing a mentally ill fringe group (gays) from having societal influence isn’t “hate” or “homophobia” – it’s just common sense

        [citation needed] that homosexuality is a mental disease

        I make no religious arguments, only scientific ones. Have you spent one minute of your life looking at the numbers behind the gay “lifestyle?” At the disease rates, the mental illness rates, the domestic violence rates?

        Scientific arguments are backed up by facts, with sources to prove those facts. Let’s see you put your money where your mouth is.

        Keep ignoring the laws of nature, and keep enjoying the reactions of nature, like AIDS.

        Cannibalism exists in most species in nature. When’s the last time you eat someone?

      • The Common Man - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

        Right. Gays aren’t straight. But they are people. And as people, they don’t deserve to be bullied or harassed until they commit suicide.

        And I have familiarity with those studies! The flawed, discredited studies spit out and sponsored by the Family Research Council and their ilk while the overwhelming majority of the scientific, medical, and psychological community finds that there’s nothing inherently wrong with being gay.

        I also like that you’re citing the laws of nature, given that homosexual behavior has been recorded in the wild. To say nothing about the animals who do not pair with a single mate or who leave their children to fend for themselves. It’s like there are different natural laws for different species depending on their needs. Imagine that!

        And I’m not even going to respond to your bullshit claim that AIDS is the reaction of nature to the homosexual lifestyle, as though nature sees two dudes having sex and devises a way to get ‘em, except to say that some of the most anti-gay countries in the world are wracked the hardest by HIV-infection.

        You’re a bigot, and an anti-semite (I see from below). Calling you a bigot is not an act of hate on my part. It’s not bullying. It’s a recognition that the things you say and advocate, and apparently believe, are fundamentally bigoted things that fly in the face of science, reason, and compassion. It’s calling a spade a spade. If that’s what you truly believe, you should embrace the label.

    • maltarz - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM

      Fail troll is fail

      • The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        “Fail troll is a fail.”

        Thanks for this perfect example of American thinking. You probably have a college degree, too.

      • maltarz - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        I have two!

    • aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM

      What a pathetic existence you must lead.

      What the hell does “running wild” mean to you? You’re clearly terrified of gay people and think they’re out to do bad things to you.

      So let’s expand on that concept. Your EXACT words were: “running wild”…very interesting.

      A psychoanalyst could have a field day with you.

      • The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        Psychoanalysts are mostly Hebrews who project their own weird ideas onto others. And you believe it.

      • aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM

        You’re way too far gone. Enjoy your paranoid bigotry, Adolf.

      • historiophiliac - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        Ooooh, I hope he pisses off sandrafluke with that and there’s a troll slap-fight!

      • eightyraw - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        Anti-Semite too? We may have found our biggest bigot winner. I don’t even want to know how you feel about racial minorities.

      • aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:44 PM

        Scary, huh? Time to disengage from any further interaction with this lunatic, Occident.

      • Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM

        Oh I don’t know, Hebrews was a pretty tough book to make it through. I much preferred the story of Job, which seems a description of how this guy feels every time he sees two guys holding hands.

    • cur68 - Oct 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

      Holy fuck. He is. What an asshole.

      • historiophiliac - Oct 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM

        Ahmerika!

  5. lawson1974 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Sorry it bugs you Craig. But this kind of stuff about more than simple bullying, it is absolutely about pushing a certain political agenda. You may agree with that agenda and that’s fine. But if you didn’t, I don’t think you would take kindly to being told to reevaluate yourself. The whole tone of your article could fit todays very wide ranging definition of bullying. But, oh well, that’s okay as long as its for a good cause.

    • aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM

      So you feel absolutely nothing when stories of gay teens being bullied into suicide hit the news? That doesn’t have any effect on you at all?

      You’re goddamned right it’s a political agenda. It’s a political agenda that says: we don’t think gay people (mostly teens but not exclusively) should be bullied until they commit suicide.

      And you’re opposed to that. The only conclusion one can draw is that in your worldview, one less fag or dyke is a good thing.

    • Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      There is nothing political about human rights.

      • rpearlston - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:33 PM

        There is nothing political about human rights, and I agree wholeheartedly. But we’re talking about the reactions of those who do not believe that everyone is equal, who refuse to believe that everyone ought to enjoy the same rights, and that it’s OK to not only fully and unconditionally believe it but to say so publicly and to act on those horribly mistaken beliefs.

        There is absolutely nothing political about human rights, except to those who refuse to understand that it’s not political. You and I are not among them.

  6. aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Nothing surprises me online anymore.

    The anonymity granted by the internet brings out the absolute WORST in people…including myself sometimes, although I try extremely hard not to succumb to those base impulses.

    It just depresses me when I read such grotesquely hateful and ignorant tripe.

    • The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:35 PM

      Seeing all the gay propaganda depresses me too, aceshigh11.

  7. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    “(the color identifying alliance with Spirt Day)”

    Too busy agitating against civilization to spell the words properly. That pretty much sums up the state of journalism these days.

    “Spirt Day?” We know what the writer was thinking about at least.

    • schm1471 - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      The guy who objects to being called a “homophone” does not have any room to criticize spelling in others.

  8. offseasonblues - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    If one kid looks around and sees how much support there is for their right to be who they are, and is encouraged by that, then this day is worthwhile.

  9. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    When will the teams have “Jesse Dirkhising Day?”

    He was a teenage boy that two homosexuals raped to death but you’ve never heard about it. The media Jews were too busy promoting the Matthew Shepherd case – that suited their agenda, Jesse didn’t.

    • The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      Six thumbs down for a boy murdered by gays.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:52 PM

        Because gay people don’t like to have sex with boys you fucktard. They like to have sex with people of the same gender. You’re thinking of pedophiles. [cf, Priests, Catholic]

        What was that comment about education you made earlier?

  10. natsattack - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Everyone has the right to live the lifestyle that they choose, bullying them for their choice defies the very principles that define America: the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. For those who believe that this is to give the LGBT community “special rights,” it isn’t. It is for them to receive the same rights that everyone else. For those who claim that this should not be just for a particular group, I agree. Bullying should eradicated completely. But this particular spirit day is against bullying LGBT people, and if you’re against bullying in general, you should support it. For those who think this is a political agenda, it isn’t. Equality is never a political agenda, it is an agenda of common sense. Baseball has been at the forefront of social progress before, it is stepping up to the plate again.

    • IdahoMariner - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM

      …and, it is one day out of an entire month devoted to increasing awareness of and combating bullying in general.

  11. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    A study published in Nursing Research found that lesbians are three times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviors: “Like most problem drinkers, 32 (91 percent) of the participants had abused other drugs as well as alcohol, and many reported compulsive difficulties with food (34 percent), codependency (29 percent), sex (11 percent), and money (6 percent).” In addition, “Forty-six percent had been heavy drinkers with frequent drunkenness.”[64]
    Alcohol Abuse Among Homosexuals and Lesbians

    The Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychologists reports that lesbian women consume alcohol more frequently, and in larger amounts, than heterosexual women.[65] Lesbians were at significantly greater risk than heterosexual women for both binge drinking (19.4 percent compared to 11.7 percent), and for heavy drinking (7 percent compared to 2.7 percent).[66]

    Although the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychologists article found no significant connection between male homosexuals and alcohol abuse, a study in Family Planning Perspective concluded that male homosexuals were at greatly increased risk for alcoholism: “Among men, by far the most important risk group consisted of homosexual and bisexual men, who were more than nine times as likely as heterosexual men to have a history of problem drinking.”[67] The study noted that problem drinking may contribute to the “significantly higher STD rates among gay and bisexual men.”[68]

    • Liam - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM

      I’m an idiot for engaging someone like you, but have you ever considered that increased substance abuse rates among homosexuals aren’t caused by inherent flaws in homosexuality, but the stigmatization they receive from a healthy portion of society that GLAAD Spirit Day is directly trying to combat?

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:06 PM

        If you want do a google search of the entire first quote. Or if not, realize that it’s a FTC site that quotes a book from ’94 that quotes ANOTHER study. The odds that the quote is being represented properly are as high as the odds of Kate Upton breaking down my door and saying her lifelong dream is to spend the rest of her life with me.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

      Please provide citations and not empty quotes.

      And holy crap, a 30 sec google search turns up you quoted something off the Family Research Council’s website. All points are hereby invalid.

    • pauleee - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM

      Everything you need to know about Occident can be had by clicking onto his webpage. I don’t recommend staying long.

      • Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 6:35 PM

        Ugh, he’s actually a neo-Nazi, not just a bigot.

        Short version for anyone who does not click on the link.

      • nothanksimdriving123 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:18 AM

        Reflex, I recall about 20 years ago seeing an ex-neoNazi on TV saying it had finally dawned on him that his Nazi brothers were both celebrating the Holocaust and denying it had happened. Doh. Nazis of any generation have never been the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

      • Reflex - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

        That is an excellent observation.

      • rpearlston - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM

        Am I the only person here who realizes that Occident seems to be a pseudonym for Vladimir Putin?

  12. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    “No, it really does boil down to fear, Church.

    Fear of being hit on. Fear for children and families. Fear of change. Fear of being thought of as gay. Fear of society crumbling. Fear of being outed. ”

    Fear of mentally ill freaks receiving special treatment. Here’s a concrete example:

    http://journalstar.com/news/local/judge-rogers-hate-crime-lie-exploded-in-her-face/article_8a527eef-a992-5144-b178-026226bfaa4e.html

    notice the FBI visited her home shortly after the “crime.”

    The FBI.

    Will the FBI help a straight White man who was assaulted in his home? No.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:03 PM

      What does showing one example of a gay person faking a crime prove exactly? Does rape and/or and/or hate crimes not happen because Tawana Bradley falsely accused a bunch of white men of raping her?

    • The Common Man - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:20 PM

      Forgive me, but is the FBI’s job not to investigate potential crimes over which it has jurisdiction? And that, in the course of the investigation, no one was ever charged or prosecuted except the person making a false report. Indeed, the “attention” she received from police was not a bug; it was a feature of having a trained police force to investigate and resolve criminal matters. If you can explain to me how she got special treatment, I will be shocked.

  13. The Grand Occident - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    “Exactly. Such a worthless term. I prefer bigots.”

    Of course you prefer “bigots” – it’s what you learned from television!

    • 161andriver - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

      God the way you talk gets me excited. I just want to throw on a yarmulke and gay open mouth kiss you for hours.

      • stlouis1baseball - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

        “God the way you talk gets me excited. I just want to throw on a yarmulke and gay open mouth kiss you for hours.”

        Winner. Winner. Chicken. Dinner.

        Well done Driver!

        Hahahaha! I am sooo glad I logged on today.
        Playing catch up. Been busy the last couple of days stump breaking my farm animals.

    • Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM

      Its better than what you learned from the National Socialists…

  14. Reflex - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    I just want to point out that many of the responses in this very thread demonstrate the need to keep pushing equality for all. Even in this time where we have lived through the civil rights movement and universal suffrage there are *STILL* a large amount of people who will steadfastly oppose equality for anyone they personally cannot identify with.

    Most people simply do not learn from the past, and as such they continue to repeat it.

    My hats off to everyone driving the fight for equality for all, and I wish I could live in an era where it was simply a given.

    • fearlessleader - Oct 17, 2013 at 6:19 PM

      Isn’t that the truth.

      When confronted with folks like Grand Accident (almost a homophone!), I like to remind myself that they’re going through a tough time. They know that the world is passing them by, and that their regressive, narrow way of thinking is rapidly making them extinct. Grand Accident knows as well as we do that society isn’t going to go backwards on this issue, and that s/he’s going to have to find something else to feel superior about….which I’m guessing is going to be tricky.

    • rpearlston - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      I would not normally use this term, but amen to that.

  15. wpjohnson - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    “Honoring” GLAAD would seem to me to be a rather queer celebration.

  16. bfunk1978 - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    I guess what bugs me the most about it is that unless I read this HBT article, I had no idea what the purple border on all the teams’ Twitter accounts was all about. If they’re really going to do this, they need to go all out and actually create awareness. Right now it’s basically on the same level as the slacktivism typical of tweens and old people on Facebook.

    • historiophiliac - Oct 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

      I don’t know about the others’ but the Tigers posted this morning about it being spirit day, the point of the purple, and encouraging others to demonstrate their support as well.

      • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM

        Totally didn’t see that from the couple teams I follow. Guess they might have done it, but it probably should have been multiple times.

  17. perryt200 - Oct 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Listen, just to take an entirely different track. When i first saw this article all I really thought about was the players and it made me think of one quote from an athlete I agreed with.

    “I’m not a role model… Just because I dunk a basketball doesn’t mean I should raise your kids.”
    Charles Barkley

    And maybe just maybe there is a player out there that would rather not be part of anything and just be left alone to stick to baseball.

    • tfbuckfutter - Oct 17, 2013 at 10:54 PM

      When I first read this post it made me think of a quote from a movie I agreed with….

      “What the fuck are you talking about?”
      -Walter Sobchak.

  18. justanotherinternetface - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM
    • justanotherinternetface - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:51 AM

      Well it seems I tried to post an image to no avail. So you can just have the link. I believe it to be highly appropriate to the topic of conversation.

      http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3771/10341463926_a23542a90f_o_d.jpg

  19. sawxalicious - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    I am of the opinion that ANY bullying in school us bad, and would prefer not singling out GLAAD…I don’t like to be put in the uncomfortable position of having my 4 year old ask what gay and lesbian people are (I would prefer he wait to ask about any mature subject matter until later)….but anyway, I do not begrudge MLB for their support if this topic…I do feel it is bandwaggonish and PC, but it has good intentions….
    OK, the Grand Occident…I am not going to call you names or say you’re so wrong and and everyone else in support of this cause is right, but I highly disagree with the way you present facts…I would be highly surprised of any LGBT population didn’t have elevated levels of alcoholism, drug abuse, etc…huge part of the issue is they don’t fit with the current societal “norms” and would obviously be more prone to depression and stuff as a result of being bullied and feeling they don’t fit in, and that sucks…I have known quite a few gay people, including in my family. Some are nice people, some are assholes, some are mentally ill, some are much more stable than most people…there are all kinds of gay people…because they are people…some may have “chosen” to be gay (probably not many),and some were born that way. Either way, the children that identify as LGBT should feel safe and secure, just as the overweight kid, the pimply kid, the smelly kid, the stutterer, etc.

    For those that want to say terrible things about the Great Occident, I understand your frustrations. Calling him (or her) names, doesn’t help them see the picture more clearly. I obviously don’t agree with what he’s posting, but I believe I and others here have pointed out flaws in his argument…

    • Reflex - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM

      While I agree with your post, I have two points to make –

      1) I don’t see why a four year old asking about gay people is a big deal, you just say its when two women or two men are in love. You do not feel pained to express straight relationships, nor are you compelled to go into the details of fornication, so treat homosexual relationships the same way, its just a different type of pairing.

      2) I know it seems like name calling, but Great Occident runs a web site in which he posts diatribes and links to diatribes promoting white supremecy, jewish conspiracies and hate against homosexuals. Click his name if you have a strong stomach. It is not name calling to call an actual bigot a bigot, he actually is, and it appears he is of the Neo-Nazi variety judging by the specific material. I agree that often people confuse ignorance with bigotry, and that the ignorant can often be educated, but the willfully ignorant are simply bigots. But in this case he is an honest to god bigot by any measure I can come up with.

      Otherwise, great post.

  20. rpearlston - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    /js20011041, this can’t be a fear of hell, not when heaven and hell are what we make of this life. There is nothing else but this life.

    All that you’re trying to do is to tell everyone that you are a bigot. Surprise, surprise, SURPRISE, we knew it already.

    • rpearlston - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:47 PM

      OOPS, js20011041. I saw that line in the middle fo the thread, wrote my comment, and then found the beginning of the thread, and that you were quoting someone else.

      The rest of my comment still applies, just not you yourself.

  21. flatsorter - Oct 21, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    I went to donate blood and they told me that if I had had sex with another male at least once in my life, my blood is not accepted because it could be contaminated with disease. I feel so sorry for the gay man (who doesn’t have a choice) that could have contaminated blood that could lead to disease.

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