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Apparently, Yasiel Puig ticked off the NLCS umpiring crew

Oct 18, 2013, 10:55 PM EDT

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When you’re as exuberant as Dodgers outfielder Yasiel Puig, you’re bound to rub some people the wrong way. According to MLB.com’s Ken Gurnick and Lyle Spencer, Puig ticked off the NLCS umpiring crew with some of his reactions to balls and strikes:

Puig has enraged the crew, which believes he is showing up umpires at home plate. It nearly came to a head in Game 5 when Puig was called out on strikes by plate umpire Ted Barrett and stood in the batter’s box, left hand on hip, staring at Barrett. Earlier in the at-bat, Puig said something to Barrett, who came out from behind the plate, brushed off the plate and apparently said something to Puig.

Earlier in that game, Barrett called out Hanley Ramirez on a third strike and Ramirez shook his head repeatedly and had some words with Barrett as he walked away. In a regular-season game, Puig might have been ejected. Before each postseason series, however, umpires meet with managers and general managers and explain that, because of the importance of the series, umpires will exercise restraint on ejections, as long as uniform personnel don’t take advantage of their patience.

Gurnick and Spencer also note that Dodgers president Stan Kasten and MLB executive vice president Joe Torre were talking during batting practice prior to Friday night’s start, ostensibly about Puig. Puig was noticeably more reserved early in Game 6, not reacting at all to borderline calls by home plate umpire Greg Gibson.

  1. gmenfan1982 - Oct 19, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    I’m so tired of this “showing up” nonsense. How is it showing up an ump by being upset about a call? Or showing up a pitcher by looking at your homerun? Give me a break. Stop being so sensitive.

    • blacksables - Oct 19, 2013 at 7:00 AM

      Well, it’s against the rules to argue balls and strikes. It’s in the rulebook. Trying reading it sometime.

      Staring at the ump and questioning his calls is arguing.

      • theskinsman - Oct 19, 2013 at 9:10 AM

        It is against the rules to argue balls and strikes.It is not against the rules to shake your head at a bullshit call and walk away muttering. Happens all the time.
        Umpires calling strikes at balls in the other batters box might make a player say something.
        I’m all for electronic balls and strikes being called. Umps could still make other calls. It would stop the garbage of teams finding out what the hell is being called a strike for every particular game.

      • blacksables - Oct 19, 2013 at 9:29 AM

        “Puig was called out on strikes by plate umpire Ted Barrett and stood in the batter’s box, left hand on hip, staring at Barrett. Earlier in the at-bat, Puig said something to Barrett,”

        Try reading the post as it was written. Also, quit pissing and moaning about the stirke zone. Both teams had the same umpire at home and one scored 9 runs.

      • paperlions - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

        No, actually it isn’t. Arguing balls and strikes is arguing, looking at the ump in disbelieve because he made a horrible call is just that….immature? Sure. But also understandable when a player cares.

        ….and Puig has been the “victim” of some horrible calls. There is very little chance that the umps are maintaining their impartiality with Puig. It really doesn’t matter how much you like or don’t like a guy….also not in the rule book, expanding the strike zone because a player stared at you after you called a ball 6″ outside a strike.

      • paperlions - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

        And players can talk to the ump, they can ask them where a pitch was….all forms of discourse are not arguing.

      • blacksables - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

        The more you post, the more I come to realize you don’t actually know anything about the game at all.

      • skibumrmtn - Oct 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM

        I guess the Dodger’s management team are Cardinal’s fans too. Puig was benched twice for thi same behavior in August by his team.

        http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/benching-yasiel-puig-right-move-don-mattingly-los-angeles-dodgers-082813

    • deaninajijic - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM

      A number of Cardinal players looked at the umps and said things to them too during the series. But they were mostly veterans like Beltran so I guess they’ve earned the right. But Puigs a rookie so he hasn’t earned it yet? The problem are the strike zones are so different from Umpire to Umpire and are not consistent during a game.
      It gets back to the fact that none of them are trained by MLB until they get to the majors so there bad habits are already ingrained. BTW, not a Dodger or Cardinal an.

    • Tiss - Oct 20, 2013 at 12:44 AM

      You’ve gotten a lot of replies about Puig’s strikeout attitude (which I agree with – bc he should have walked away and it was extremely rude and immature to stand there like he did) but no one seems to have caught your comment about him ‘looking at his homerun.’ Maybe you’ve forgotten – but it WASN’T a homerun. It was a triple, and you don’t celebrate any hit into the field until you safely reach base…period! You’re supposed to be hustling right out of the box to get as far around the bases as possible, not celebrate on your way to first and hope to get lucky. (as Puig did) If that ball bounces differently, Beltran throws him out. Then, of course, no one would be questioning the stupidity of his actions, bc it would be so blatantly obvious. Only because he made it safely – all the way to third – are people defending him. He needs to be taught now, while he’s still young, not to do that sort of thing, because the next time he might not make it. How dumb will he, and all his current defenders, look then? Having said all that – I don’t think he’s necessarily a bad guy. He’s just acting very cocky right now and that comes with being so young and having been thrust into such a high status at such a high level of play. But he needs to chill out and stop trying to showboat, because sooner or later his showboating will start turning hits into outs, and strike three calls into ejections.

  2. jlovenotjlo - Oct 19, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    What a Puig of Crap™, cost his team the pennant!

  3. Uncle Charlie - Oct 19, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    The last time I saw the outside strike called thisteams, Maddux was pitching. Having said that it was called consistently against both teams.

  4. Anoesis - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    I’m hoping most of the cool Cards fans are out celebrating their team’s win, because most of the ones on here are gloating assholes. Most of the comments I’ve read (looking at you, jhaegs) give legs to the claim they’re fat-headed jerks.

    I’m no AL fan, but I didn’t root for the Giants last year because I’m a Dodger fan. After reading all the immature shots at the losing team in this year’s NLCS it looks like I’ll have to continue that trend.

    If your team just won you could take a cue from the thin-skinned umpires and do the opposite of what they do: Ignore the frustration and show some class.

    • paperlions - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM

      jhaegs is a fair weather fan that says as many silly and inaccurate things here as he does on PHT. Every fan base has fair weather ass hats, sadly, they are usually the loudest and most annoying.

  5. midjerseyfatcat - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Puig is nothing but a spoiled brat and should have been taken out of the game. What good is it to have an arm and not throw to the cut off man or just throw wildly into the stands like he did on that throw to home. He did nothing with his bat and if he thinks he is going to change the National League with his bad behavior towards the umps he is wrong again. I guess being born and raised in poverty like he was in Cuba doesn’t make you humble very long. If his attitude doesn’t change for the better soon he will become another talented player with a big head that teams will only sign when needed and never long term. The name Terall Owens comes to mind though a different sport.

    • eightyraw - Oct 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM

      You don’t know Yasiel Puig. You can’t possibly relate to his upbringing. Stop trying to judge his character based off of his style of play.

  6. jimeejohnson - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Puig is in the right place for a showoff.

  7. pipkin42 - Oct 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    God, can baseball just leave the humorless blowhard stuff to football people for once?

  8. jhaegs - Oct 19, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    @analsis

    You fail to understand the ongoing transformation I’ve been going through. I keep quiet, and writers here/other fans lump me in with “the best fans in baseball” crap. I defend my position, and I’m lumped in with “the whining best fans in baseball”. So, why should I show any respect or class? If I’m going to be labeled as an arrogant homer because if what other people say, I’ll go ahead and act that way. It feels a lot better than trying to argue my position the whole time. Petty as it may be, I’d rather troll than be trolled. So suck it, loser ;).

    And as for being a “fair weather” fan, I’ve gone to hundreds of Cardinals, Rams, and Blues games ever since I was about 8yrs old (1995).

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM

      Ahhh….that explains it. I had you pegged for 19…20…21 years old. 26 isn’t too far off I guess.
      You will get it at some point. Mid 30’s most likely.

  9. notsofast10 - Oct 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    This is BS. The umpires used a different strike zone for Puig in the first place because they did not like his exuberance. They called several balls at his ankles an and 1/2 foot inside strikes and he shows he did not like it. This proves the umpires were biased and not calling balls and strikes the same for Puig as they should. Then they get mad when he “shows them up”!!!!!

    The umpires are really not helping themselves here because they are pushing themselves out the door. This will help the some day come sooner where balls and strikes are called by a computer with laser technology and the umpire will just relay the call from the computer.

    They are contributing to their own demise going public with this tactic!!!!

  10. materialman80 - Oct 19, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Puig has a lot of raw talent which he needs to work on. He also needs to grow up.

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