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Nationals not interested in Dusty Baker

Oct 18, 2013, 3:10 PM EDT

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Last week when Dusty Baker revealed that he’d contacted the Nationals about replacing Davey Johnson as manager Craig Calcaterra speculated that general manager Mike Rizzo wouldn’t be interested because he’s looking for a non-veteran skipper.

Sure enough, Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post now reports that the Nationals “have not reciprocated interest” and Baker is “not expected to be a manager candidate.”

Washington is bringing in plenty of potential candidates for interviews and Buster Olney of wrote earlier today that at least one source thinks Diamondbacks third base coach Matt Williams is the clear front-runner for the job.

Baker, who was fired by the Reds despite three 90-win seasons in four years, has said all along that he wants to manage in 2014.

  1. chacochicken - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    They are going to have to get in line to not be interested in Dusty Baker.

    • coloradogolfcoupons - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:42 PM

      Sadly, they aren’t interested in me either, and I can’t understand why. I used to play Little League in the 60’s!

      That should be enough to get an MLB job after watching managerial moves for 50 years lol.

  2. chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Outside of a GM’s ego outweighing common sense, I’m not sure why you would prefer an untested manager to one who has had success through the years.

    Now, if Rizzo doesn’t like something about Baker’s style, that’s one thing. But if it’s just “I want a manager with no managerial experience.” then I don’t see how that helps your team.

    • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      Teams win in spite of, not because of, Dusty Baker.

      • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

        That’s a lot of spite then because Baker’s teams have won a lot of games and taken a lot of trips to the playoffs.

      • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        That’s true. The Giants, Cubs, and Reds in recent years have all gone to the playoffs because they’ve been talented.

      • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM

        I agree that talent more than managerial skill dictates a team’s record. But the notion that Baker’s managing is something that these teams need to overcome also doesn’t wash.

      • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

        The Reds certainly overcame batting a #2 hitter with an OBP around .280.

    • Kevin S. - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM

      One, an untested manager will almost always come cheaper than a “proven winner.” Two, as others have argued in the comments, a guy without experience is more malleable to the front office’s philosophy. It’s unlikely you’ll find a guy who thinks exactly like you do, so why try to break old habits?

      • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

        As I said, if Baker’s managerial philosophy doesn’t mesh with Rizzo then that’s a good reason not to hire the guy. However, managers, just like general managers, come from many different organizations. Which means that there’s a pretty good bet that a proven manager is out there who manages in the style that you, as GM, want your team to emulate.

        On the other hand, if Rizzo wants a raw manager that he can marginalize (ie the way Billy Beane did with Art Howe) then that’s ego and not in the best interests of the team.

      • natstowngreg - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM

        If that’s Rizzo’s thinking (and it might well be), Randy Knorr or Trent Jewett would be a safe play. They have managed in the Nats’ organization, they know Mike Rizzo, they know the players. Rizzo and the players know them. (Bo Porter would have the same advantage, but he’s already managing somewhere else).

        I rather suspect that, from his time in the Diamondbacks’ organization, Rizzo knows Matt Williams. He may well think Williams would make a good manager, and manage consistent with the organizational philosophy.

    • natstowngreg - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      Rizzo was interested in Joe Girardi.

      • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        Calcaterra is the one who speculated that Rizzo was looking for a “non-veteran skipper”

      • natstowngreg - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM

        Yes, that’s what it was, speculation. As, I’m sure, Craig would cheerfully admit. It does not follow that Rizzo wants an inexperienced manager for the sake of having an inexperienced manager.

    • emdash01 - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      The word used wasn’t untested, or inexperienced. It was *younger,* so that they could have a manager stick around for a number of years. That’s why Baker’s not under consideration, as between his health and his age he can’t be expected to have many years as a manager left.

  3. wmch65 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Dusty should have kept his mouth shut as they don’t let your huming bird ass overload your battleship mouth theirs not that maying opening right now the nationals and cubs and their not interested either next stop college ball

    • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:50 PM

      I’m not sure that’s a coherent thought.

      • natstowngreg - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:57 PM

        I’m sure that it’s not a coherent thought.

      • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

        I’m not sure that it’s NOT a coherent thought. I think he’s saying Dusty’s public butthurt over being let go is scaring people off.

        I disagree. I think the Nationals are not interested because they value pitchers’ health.

    • blacksables - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

      Don’t drink and comment.

    • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

      Stay in school, kids, and don’t do drugs.

      • jcmeyer10 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

        But if you’re going to do drugs, go to English class at least.

      • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:18 PM


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  4. wmch65 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    No one interested in Dusty Baker anymore he let his mouth override common sense who left cubs they don’t want him either his last year their was a losing record an than their was the melt down because of a bad call

    • bfunk1978 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      It’s like the first one was unsalvageable and so you tried again. Only to fail again.

      • jcmeyer10 - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        I think Dusty stopped signing autographs one person before this guy or something.

  5. natstowngreg - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    All due respect to Dusty, but I don’t think he’s the manager the Nats need at this stage of their development. This is a team with a good core of younger talent, their 2013 regression notwithstanding. Not the veteran team Dusty likes.

    There have been 2 names outside the organization getting serious mention for the Nats’ vacancy — Matt Williams and Bo Porter (the Astros would have to fire or trade him, and that doesn’t seem likely). As I said the other day, I’m not taking the Cal Ripken talk seriously, unless he actually comes in for an interview.

    • emdash01 - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

      Brad Ausmus, as well. If they’re going with an external candidate who’s never managed, I’d like him. At least it would be a change from Rizzo’s general tendency to hire guys from his Diamondbacks tenure for everything.

  6. mrpinkca - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    You mean the team that sat Stephen Strasburg during their first ever playoff series because of fear for his young arm? I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t be interested in world class manager of young pitchers Dusty Baker.

  7. dcfan999 - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    The nats don’t wanna retread manager they want a young manager also dusty baker is awful in the playoffs

    • Uncle Charlie - Oct 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      Yup only during the playoffs.

  8. metalhead65 - Oct 19, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    damn it! I was so look forward to straussberg to thowing a 150 pitches a game and dusty telling harper he would be sitting against a pitcher who gave him problems in little league even if he was 3-4 the night before. baseball is all about match ups according to the book of Dusty.

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