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Someone is a tad upset that Nolan Ryan resigned from the Rangers

Oct 18, 2013, 10:35 AM EDT

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I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Nolan Ryan was a pretty good source for Randy Galloway of the Star-Telegram:

So there you go. And there goes Nolan Ryan, gone for good. Backstabbing and ego trips won out, and a state of Texas legend is forced out. Give it up for Jon Daniels, the general manager who successfully hijacked the Texas Rangers, and as of Thursday officially, became the baseball god of Arlington.

He adds that “the geek element of fandom will cheer on Daniels” while most fans — real fans, I assume he believes — will lament Nolan Ryan leaving. He says a “kill-shot” was fired at Ryan too, so he’s not being dramatic or anything.

I would love for Galloway and the real fans to point out the different moves made by Nolan Ryan vs. Jon Daniels in an effort to actually explain who did what better and why. Because if they can’t, I’d dare say that this is about emotion and attitude and — quite possibly — friendship between the reporter and the figure being reported on rather than it being about baseball merit.

Or maybe I’m wrong. I mean, we see temper tantrums like this from professional sports columnists in the wake of personnel moves all the time, right?

 

 

  1. yahmule - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    This kind of thing happens in all sports. Jerry West was a much more accomplished executive than Nolan Ryan and he was forced out by an egomaniac, too.

    • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM

      Seems a little strange to call the GM and President of Baseball Operations an egomaniac for doing his job.

      • yahmule - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:32 PM

        Seems a little preposterous that two grown men couldn’t find a way to co-exist within the organization.

      • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM

        And who was there first?

      • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:12 PM

        JD was GM before Nolan arrived. JD was given a promotion. Nolan resigned. If we are going this resignation about some feud, it seems like Nolan could not acquiesce. JD did not promote himself. He did not usurp power.

      • bendover09 - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM

        As a DFW native Randy Galloway is not loved in Dallas. He is no different than Jim Rome. He bashed Dirk until he won. The dude says the most insane crap just to get you listening. It failed and he got fired.

        Now with Nolan. I’ve been a diehard Rangers fan my whole life , yes , even in the 90′s.. Nolan has done nothing compared to what JD has done. JD came in as the youngest GM in baseball 7 years , 4 playoffs, & 2 World Series. Last time I checked Nolan was not scouting nor helping the pitchers in the mid summer heat. Nolan is nothing more than a ticket salesman. I like the guy but he did abosolutely nothing to help this team. Speaking to a player thru the media will not make your team better.

      • dogengenjo - Mar 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM

        you missed the boat with this point. Daniel’s job was not President of OPS, only GM, over reaching his job requirements, creating a jealous environment in his own mind. Daniel’s was peeved Nolan got all the credit for the Team he helped create. Daniel’s is in over his head..!!

  2. rickdobrydney - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    I am sure all their young pitchers are only too happy to see him leave , rather than seeing him glare at them from the stands when they come out of a game in the 5th or 6th inning and haven’t thrown less than 130 pitches.

    • chew1985 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

      Your post upset a few people by the looks of the numbers up and down. However, a former major leaguer who lives close to us once told me that Nolan Ryan was a disaster to play defense behind–easily 20 pitches every inning, 150-160 per game minimum. He put his fielders to sleep sometimes and that resulted in some sloppy play that actually cost him some runs and wins.

      And if he had played just another half season he would have hit the 300-loss milestone, which takes away some of the lustre of having only slightly more than that many wins in your career. These are the facts but go ahead and have at me with the thumbs down everbuddy. And have a nice weekend.

      • stevem7 - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM

        Yeah CHEW …. 7 no hitters and 5,000 plus strikeouts mean your loser neighbor stood around a lot and was too dumb to realize he was seeing history in front of him. By his own admission your neighbor went to sleep which in any major league baseball player is a big big big NO NO. Yeah, I’d put a lot of faith in what that loser has to say.

      • chew1985 - Oct 19, 2013 at 7:48 AM

        stevem7-he has 2 World Series rings. He knows what winning is and how to do it. And most importantly he is not a braggard. He was not whining about or denigrating Ryan in any way, just stating what he and some other guys on the team thought at the time.

        People thought they were “watching history” with Mark McGwire too.

        It’s about winning. It’s about rings. History is written by the winners.

  3. xpensivewinos - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Their games just won’t be the same without seeing Steve Busby and Tom Grieve kissing Ryan’s ass during those in-game interviews.

    Galloway must have been seething when those two were cock-blocking him……..

  4. beefytrout - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Randy Galloway doesn’t command a lot of respect in the DFW market. He’s a blowhard. I like how he says Jon Daniels received a promotion about a year ago “out of nowhere.”

    No, Randy, I think back-to-back World Series appearances were probably the catalyst for Daniels’ promotion. But don’t let facts get in the way of tabloid journalism.

    • sprest83 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      You are nuts. Galloway commands tons of respect, maybe not from you.

      Bottom line, there was a huge power struggle. The nerd vs the baseball legend. The nerd wants to do things his analytical way…hire his coaches, so on and so forth. Nolan turned the franchise around by hiring Maddux as the pitching coach. Maddux only accepted the job because of nolan, not daniels. Without Maddux, this team wouldn’t have a Holland, Perez, etc…team era that is actually respectable in the mlb. Thats unheard of for the Rangers historically.

      Both Daniels and Nolan contributed to back to back WS appearances, but I believe Nolan did more.

      • beefytrout - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        That must be why he got fired from the Dallas Morning News. Because he was so respected.

      • sprest83 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

        Randy Galloway has a $1.5 million dollar contract with the Star Telegram. What else ya got?

      • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        Maddux drafted Holland and signed Perez?!

        I have yet to see/read one argument detailing how Nolan did more than Daniels.

      • beefytrout - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        “Randy Galloway has a $1.5 million dollar contract with the Star Telegram. What else ya got?”

        No idea what that has to do with commanding respect or having been fired from the DMN, but thanks for the info, I guess.

        I’m sure Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith make good money too.

      • sprest83 - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        It has everything to do with it. Clearly he pulls weight…don’t be stupid.

      • beefytrout - Oct 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        There’s a difference between “commanding respect” and “large readership.” Millions of people watch “Dancing with the Stars,” it doesn’t mean that show commands respect.

        He may pull weight with you, but some of us don’t read the tabloids.

        What else ya got?

      • bendover09 - Oct 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

        Since when does Nolan make trades , sprest83? Last time I checked JD made the Tex trade. He also picked Perez, Holland, Tep, & signed Beltre. He sniffed out Colby in Japan. Let’s see … He even got three guys from old man Michael Young . Problem here , what has Nolan done? Make a speech ? What? Where is your conclusion that Nolan did more ?

    • stevem7 - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

      Have no dog in this fight and could care less. I would say to you that now that Ryan is gone, the proof will be in the pudding over the next 2 years. If, as you believe, Daniels is responsible for the back-to-back WS appearances then one has to wonder what happened this year with a weaker division to play in. And if Texas doesn’t make the Post Season in the next two years then you will know that the responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of Jon Daniels.

      • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM

        Yes that is exactly how it works. Everything can be attributed to one or two people. Luck has little to do with baseball.

  5. manifunk - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Man alive, talk about a red-letter day in bad baseball writing. But enough about Craig’s posts… (kidding)

    • nategearhart - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      Yeah, I was thinking how sad it is that Galloway got paid in money for such poorly-written crap. Setting aside his opinion, it reads like something off an IMDB message board. Is he 13?

  6. chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    As someone who doesn’t give a crap about the Rangers, the one thing I am sorry about with Nolan Ryan leaving is that he successfully threw out the notion of babying pitchers. He had good pitchers who didn’t get hurt (save Neftali Feliz) who threw a lot of pitches and a lot of innings and it helped build a very strong rotation in Texas.

    • neoshweaty - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:16 AM

      Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t much of the Texas rotation miss time? Alexi Ogando, Colby Lewis, Matt Harrison and Neftali Felix come to mind.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM

        Yes but that defeats the point of the argument.

      • neoshweaty - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM

        I’m not quite sure how church. He is making the argument that he didn’t baby pitchers and they didn’t get hurt but there is evidence to the contrary from the season that just finished.

      • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM

        I cited Feliz as the exception above. Harrison had back problems, Lewis a bad hip, neither pitching related. Ogando still made 18 starts.

    • jwbiii - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM

      Do you think the rotation might have been better if Matt Harrison and Colby Lewis had been in it?

      • beefytrout - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:31 AM

        I’m betting a full year of a healthy Matt Harrison would have been better than the 4 or 5 guys who made starts in his place, yeah.

      • chip56 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:22 PM

        Lewis needed hip surgery, Harrison hurt his back – not the arm injuries associated feared when it comes to higher work loads. Ogando made 18 starts.

      • jwbiii - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM

        At the risk of playing the “You’ve never played the game” card, do you think pitchers only pitch with their arms?

    • paperlions - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

      Feel free to provide evidence that the Rangers treat their starters any differently than other teams. The highest the Rangers ever ranked under Ryan in innings pitched by starters was 9th.

  7. sabatimus - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Until Galloway supports his claims with evidence, this is a non-story.

  8. clydeserra - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Yup bad luck on feliz. (and Harrison) (and ogando) (and lewis).

    here is the thing, yes some people’s arms can take the stress, some can’t. Right now, there is no way to predict who can and can’t.

  9. Old Gator - Oct 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    I dare say that in fifty or sixty years, when fans talk about baseball legends, the name of Nolan Ryan will still be mentioned often and with awe while the surname of John Daniels, if it is mentioned at all, will be replaced with “Who?” I don’t think Ryan needs to lose much sleep over it.

    • jwbiii - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      Of course. There are many pitchers in the Hall of Fame and Ryan certainly is deserving. There is only one GM in the Hall of Fame (Stan Musial generally managed the Cardinals for one very successful season, but that’s not why he’s there). The bar is much higher for GMs.

      • dlf9 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM

        Which of five of Pat Gillick, Lee and Larry McPhail, Branch Rickey, Ed Barrow, George Weiss are you kicking out of the Hall?

      • Old Gator - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM

        Yes, but you don’t need to be a HOF member to remain present to the conversation that is baseball’s nebula. You only need to be perceived to have mattered. Hence, Mutts fans still talk about Marvelous Marv and Borg fans still talk about the wayOscar Gamble’s hair stuck out from under his cap. And needless to say, Pete Rose will dominate the conversation whether the ban is ever lifted or not.

      • jwbiii - Oct 21, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        dlf9, Pat Gillick has the phrase “remarkable memory” right there on his plaque. It seems that I lack that quality. I was going with Rickey.

    • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:20 PM

      The Rangers franchise had won just a single playoff game in the 45 seasons before Jon Daniels. This doesn’t make him a baseball legend, but he sure is revered by many Rangers fans.

    • gloccamorra - Oct 20, 2013 at 11:44 PM

      Fifty years from now, if you mention the name John Daniels, you won’t get “Who?”. The ACTOR John Daniels is a pioneer of blaxploitation films, including “Mean Dog Blues”, “Black Shampoo” and “Flesh Eating Mothers”.

  10. stex52 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Nolan Ryan was a good pitcher for a lot of years. That doesn’t make him a manager, a good GM, or a good executive. On top of that, he is thin-skinned and inclined to grudges. He worked for a while to damage the Astros’ brand after he perceived slights from them. I am sorry to say he had some success at that, although the Astros were largely to blame for their own demise.

    Some good from my perspective may come from this. Perhaps he will now feel slighted by the Rangers and work to tilt the table back. The Round Rock AAA franchise, for one, would be very nice back in the Astros’ farm system.

    • paperlions - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      Exactly. There is no evidence that Ryan significantly contributed to the Ranger’s success besides being there and being given credit for things he didn’t do by awe-struck media members.

  11. J. Robert Hanson - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Am I missing something here? I kinda thought Nolan was the man who turned the Texas Rangers into a viable Ballclub. But, then again, I’m an Angel fan.

    • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      You would be ignoring the immense contributions of Jon Daniels, Thad Levine, Kipp Fagg, etc.

    • stex52 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM

      While admitting that he participated in the team that did it, I would say that is a bit of a stretch.

    • paperlions - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM

      Ryan has never been the decision maker on personnel matters, trades, the draft, scouting, development….nothing.

  12. eshine76 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Serious questions because I don’t follow the Rangers… What was Nolan Ryan’s job (not title) when he came to the organization? Isn’t he a part owner? Was he supposed to be a figurehead to generate interest in the community or was he brought in to make baseball personel decisions? Maybe Ryan felt his role was something more than it was, hence the strife…

  13. materialman80 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    I don’t believe it was Nolan’s fault that Texas couldn’t get it done.

    • eightyraw - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

      Who is blaming him? He resigned.

  14. bgmcc907 - Oct 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    Randy Galloway is a world class, Texas sized jackass.

    Thanks for the opportunity.

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