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John Farrell says Jon Lester “sweats like a pig,” was using rosin last night

Oct 24, 2013, 4:29 PM EDT

Red Sox manager John Farrell just met the media and, predictably, he was asked about the substance which may or may not have appeared in Jon Lester‘s glove. From the media tweets:


Fair enough. Not sure why rosin would appear sort of greenish and gelatinous, but there’s lots of things I don’t know.

  1. raysfan1 - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    The green gelatinous stuff is blood; the only logical conclusion is he is part Vulcan.

  2. sandrafluke2012 - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Why is baseball different than Golf? IN golf, you don’t cheat and call stuff on yourself. Baseball cheaters should feel guilty

    • paperlions - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:04 PM

      Well, for starters, if baseball was the same as golf, then we wouldn’t need two different names for them as they would be the same game and calling it “baseball” would be really weird since there wouldn’t be any bases.

  3. wheels579 - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Golf allows folks to phone in complaints from home – should baseball allow that too? The Cardinals’ brass aren’t complaining. Don’t you think you’d hear from more than a minor-leaguer if this were such a big deal?

  4. redsoxclover - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Why is everyone saying its green? Do you understand optical illusion? Pure white jersey next to a black glove. Anything off white will mess with your eyes. Rosin +dirt = off white!!

  5. larrymahnken - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Rule 8.02(a) Comment: If at any time the ball hits the rosin bag it is in play. In the case of rain or wet field, the umpire may instruct the pitcher to carry the rosin bag in his hip pocket. A pitcher may use the rosin bag for the purpose of applying rosin to his bare hand or hands. Neither the pitcher nor any other player shall dust the ball with the rosin bag; neither shall the pitcher nor any other player be permitted to apply rosin from the bag to his glove or dust any part of his uniform with the rosin bag.

    So… um…

    • pilonflats - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:55 PM

      soon they will say it wasn’t rosin but some other legal substance…

      • larrymahnken - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:56 PM

        To be fair, the rule says that the umpire is the sole judge as to whether he violated the rule. If the umpire knows there’s rosin on his glove, and allows it, then it’s within the rules.

        But I’m guessing he didn’t run it by the umpire, he just did it.

    • sabatimus - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:56 PM

      This rule only covers rosin coming from the bag.

      • larrymahnken - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM

        Other rules prohibit foreign substances, which the rosin clearly is. The rosin bag is the only allowed source of rosin on the field, and it must be kept behind the mound unless the umpire directs the pitcher to put it in his pocket.

    • ghostofjimlindeman - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM

      Maybe he just smeared his glove in beer and chicken? He’s a cheater spare us the semantics bet he has a real clean glove next game.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM

        Does this mean a Cardinals batter is allowed to hit Lester with a bat? Red Sox nation seems to believe players should police cheating by hitting each other with the tools of the game.

  6. alang3131982 - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    So say there was definitive evidence that Lester cheated. or lester admitted it or a teammate did or something. What would happen? Game I outcome would stand, right? they’d suspend/fine Lester? How long? Seems like once the game is over, not much there tehre…

    • larrymahnken - Oct 24, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      Yes, Game 1 is in the books. Lester can be fined, and the umpires can eject Lester if he tries it next time (they’ll probably just make him clean the glove before the game).

    • raysfan1 - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      Several pitchers have been suspended 7-10 games over the years, so likely something on that order. Lester would be out the rest of the series and maybe miss the first start of 2014, but last night’s game would still count. It’s a moot point regardless since MLB is not investigating.

  7. yahmule - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Farrell also said David Ortiz “farts like a rhino” and Dustin Pedroia is as “furtive as a baby gibbon.” I think he’s cracking under the pressure.

  8. stlouis1baseball - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Does it appear to me Lester had a foreign substance in his glove? Absolutely.
    Do I think it had anything to do with the Cardinals committing three errors and generally playing the entire game with their heads up their respective asses? Not a chance.

    I am ready to move on. Was this morning actually.

    Game #2 tonight. Good luck Red Sox fans!

    • aceshigh11 - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:25 PM

      Wow, I guess it is true…

      St. Louis fans ARE classy 😉

      Good luck to you too. Can’t wait to see if Wacha lives up to the hype.

      • stlouis1baseball - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        Hahaha! Thanks Man. Good game last night. Far more indicative of what I expect this series to look like. Tight baseball that could go either way. I fully expect nail biters the rest of the way!

    • jeffthomasb - Oct 24, 2013 at 6:22 PM

      Finally, STL1 says what no one else has said all day. Lester could have been playing slow-ptich and the Cards would still have lost the game. They were not ready for last night in any way (except Holliday, who seemed dialed in from his first at-bat). Terrible outing by a pretty good team.

      But I too was ready to move on this morning. Hopefully the nerves are all calmed, and Wacha has decent stuff. Go Cards!

      • paperlions - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:07 PM

        Not a single person even suggested that the Cardinals would have won if Lester was not cheating (if he was). Not one.

    • hustleandflomax - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      Exactly. Let’s just move on. The Cards crapped the bed in Game 1. Wainwright and the defense had a rough night. It happens. Only 1 game. There are other opportunities for the Cards to get their heads out of their asses and make a series of it. Sox kicked their asses fair and square.

  9. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Isnt that why there is a rosin bag on the back of the mound? I don’t believe he is allowed to keep it on his glove. I was not inclined to believe he was cheating until I heard this weak excuse from his manager/pitching coach.

  10. canadiansportsfan77 - Oct 24, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Jeez Farrell, why couldn’t you give Ricky the spitball in your years in Toronto. 2 Bo Sox pitchers accused of sliming a ball in the year, why couldn’t the Jays pitchers get the accusations under your tenure, we only got the man in white

  11. peterjohnjoseph - Oct 24, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    My biggest hope is other pitchers from other teams stand up and admit “guys, this is something we all mostly do. Whether on our hat, our glove, our pants.. Its a way to gain grip and in no way affects sink, spin, or anything else.” I’ve seen a few ex pitchers admit it, but as this will surely leave a stain on this series, pitchers in the league could have some honor for their fellow pitching bretherton and bail Lester out here. I really will have the utmost respect for the guy who steps up. I hope its sooner than later. He pitched a great game, and the Cardinals had a few miscues- for Game 1 to be interpreted any other way is a shame.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:39 AM

      Gaining grip DOES affect sink, spin and everything else. Otherwise, pitchers wouldn’t do it.

  12. indaburg - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Except pigs don’t sweat. The plot thickens…

  13. nbjays - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    The Cards’ problem was not the rosin in Lester’s glove, it was the grease or Vaseline or whatever in Kozma’s glove. Dude couldn’t catch a cold last night.

  14. grumpyoleman - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Pepper must be worse then any of these other substances since you always see signs saying No Pepper

  15. mvd513 - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Green and gelatinous… maybe he sneezed on the rosin. Its a weird colored substance already anyway, of course its gonna look weird on a glove, probably moreso getting dirty over the course of the game. Man, using resin to get a grip on the ball…sure doesnt make sense that you’d end up with any on your glove..gee…
    This is stupid.

  16. westpalmlion - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Looks like Lester went to the Kenny Rogers school of doctoring baseballs.

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