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Major League Baseball: no conclusions can be drawn from the Jon Lester video

Oct 24, 2013, 11:35 AM EDT

Lester glove

Enough of a ruckus was raised by the video of Jon Lester floating around that Major League Baseball has issued a statement on the matter:

“We cannot draw any conclusions from this video. There were no complaints from the Cardinals and the umpires never detected anything indicating a foreign substance throughout the game.”

Silly baseball. Don’t they know in situations like this you’re supposed to jump to conclusions swiftly, not attempt to draw them. Total killjoys, the lot of them.

  1. imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Jake Peavy and Sports Science did a piece on the effects of doctoring a baseball, including Vaseline. 1/2 of an inch of drop I believe…..near meaningless.
    Is it cheating? Sure, did it turn Lester into an unhittable curveball machine, absolutely not.

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    • zalbatt07 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      not sure if you watched the vid, but he never used vaseline. but with a scuffed ball the pitch went from 4in of break to 8in. Also, 1/2 an inch of break is a lot…

    • Marty McKee - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

      Maybe Peavy just doesn’t know how to throw a loaded baseball.

  2. Panda Claus - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    I have no skin in this ball doctoring story, but since when has baseball been able to make a reasonable conclusion about anything?

    You could remind Bud Selig the sun has come up in the East for the past 4-6 billion years and he’d still give you a bewildered look if you asked him where it would come up tomorrow.

  3. wutifs2 - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    What if he’s a repeat offender?

  4. rickdobrydney - Oct 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Goddamm cheat…so obvious—–

  5. jm91rs - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    I know my brown leather glove discolored in two spots that I typically rub with my hand while waiting for a pitcher to release the ball. Would a black leather glove discolor to a greenish shade if it was wearing in that one spot? My cheap black hiking boots get a green tint when scuffed.
    To be perfectly clear it suspect that he’s doctoring the ball. His silence this morning tells me he probably is. But id be interested in seeing if that glove looks the same today or if it was a substance he removed.

  6. billgatesbarber - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Nothing to see here…

  7. cardslifer - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Regardless, the game is over. Time for game 2.

    No need to complain, won’t fix anything.

    Winning fixes anything.

    • gloccamorra - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      Do you work for the NFL?
      Chargers coach Don Coryell once protested a game in which his team had a 2 point lead, when an opponent was tackled on the field with time running out and no time outs left. A referee inexplicably whistled the play dead, stopping the clock with 5 seconds left, and the opposing team made a field goal to win the game.

      After a review, the NFL officials admitted the clock was stopped in error and it changed the outcome of the game. Coryell asked “What are you going to do about it?” and got the answer, “Nothing. The game is over. You lost.”

      That’s not how baseball does it. The KC/Yankees pine tar incident resulted in a replay of the game at a later date, not “The game is over. You lost.”

  8. rje49 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Remember the rule for pitchers against “going to the mouth” unless they step off the mound? All playoffs long, I’ve been watching all kinds of pitchers licking their fingers on the mound. When was the last time an ump called a ball because of it?

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:40 PM

      That is because it is a rule that is wave-able before the game. So when the two managers meet with the umpire pre-game to exchange lineups and go over ground rules, they both agree to ignore that rule. It happens a LOT in cold weather games.

      • rje49 - Oct 24, 2013 at 3:32 PM

        I guess Los Angeles is chilly in October, too?

  9. cohnjusack - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Did they look into the vaseline that Lester rubbed into Pete Kozma’s glove?

    • stex52 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

      Point well taken on last night’s game. Wainwright had about nothing for the first three innings, and you could have accurately called five errors instead of the two that were actually recorded. I’m sure Lester will be checked closely in Game 5, but in the meantime this one’s on the Cards.

  10. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Basically business as usual.

    The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence!

  11. sabatimus - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Regardless, you can be sure Matheny and/or the umps are going to check out Lester’s glove the next time he pitches.

    • gloccamorra - Oct 24, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      It might not do any good. They never caught Gaylord Perry, who talked about vaseline for psychological purposes, but didn’t need the help, or Don Sutton, reputed to scuff baseballs with a sharp corner of his belt buckle. Both are in the HOF.

  12. hpt150 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    rje49 — recent rule change. no need to leave the circle to go to the mouth anymore. in an effort to speed up the game. just gotta wipe your hand before you touch the ball again. same as before.

  13. realitypolice - Oct 24, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    The video is not inconclusive. There was definitely something on his glove and he definitely touched it before he grabbed the ball.

    MLB is simply not going to take action because they know what most people have been saying all day: Whatever small benefit he may have gotten from it certainly had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. It was simply a dominating performance by Red Sox.

    And yes, as a Yankees fan, I did just vomit in my mouth a little when I typed that.

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