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The Marlins “promise” they won’t lose 100 games next year

Oct 24, 2013, 7:45 PM EDT

David Samson AP

After unloading a bunch of talent and alienating their fanbase, the Marlins finished with the second-worst record in baseball this season at 62-100. We’ve seen a front office shakeup since the end of the year, with Michael Hill replacing Larry Beinfest as president of baseball operations and Dan Jennings taking over as general manager, but team president David Samson told Christina De Nicola of FOX Sports Florida today that he sees brighter days ahead. In fact, he promises it.

“We want to get out there and get going,” Samson said. “We’re getting ready for another season, and we’re going to win more. I promise you this: We’re not going to lose 100 games next year. Not close.”

You hear that? Not going to lose 100 games. Don’t call for season tickets all at once out there.

It’s hard to take any “promise” seriously with Jeffrey Loria meddling behind the scenes, but there’s no denying that Giancarlo Stanton, Jose Fernandez, and Christian Yelich give the Marlins an exciting young core. However, they don’t appear willing to spend on the extra parts to be competitive in the short-term and it’s hard to blame fans who believe that their young players will be headed elsewhere once they get expensive. Stanton will be arbitration-eligible for the first time this winter, so he might be the first to go if the Marlins get an offer to their liking.

  1. chill1184 - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:48 PM


    • Old Gator - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      And you can believe him, because he never lies and he’s always right.

      • gloccamorra - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:08 AM

        Well, he’s got the decks stacked in his favor, right? He expects to have Stanton all year, as well as Fernandez, and the rest of the pitching finished strong. Morrison will be a year removed from injury and might even play over 100 games, and there HAS to be a better veteran bench available this off-season than the sorry crew the Marlins had in 2013. Besides, a 99 loss season gets the job done, so he’s not promising much.

      • dan1111 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:11 AM

        The truly surprising thing about the Marlins is not that they are deceitful, greedy, or thumb their nose at the fans. It’s that they do it so ham-handedly. A competent evil owner would realize that there is actually no upside whatsoever to needlessly antagonize fans. Doing so actually reduces the revenue that is coming in, so if all you care about is the money, you should at least have competent PR that is able to trick some people into thinking you care.

        This promise is an unbelievably dumb statement. What possible upside is there? The fact that you think you have to promise makes you look very weak right now and probably creates the opposite impression of what was intended. And if the Marlins go 63-99 or even much better next season, no one is going to remember and say “Wow, David Samson was true to his word. What a great guy!” HOWEVER, if somehow the Marlins do lose 100 next season (an outcome for which many people are now rooting), this statement will be forever infamous.

      • spudchukar - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM

        99 or 101 much more likely.

  2. raysfan1 - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    So…how many losses can they have and still be keeping this promise? He said “not close” to 100–is 95 close? 90? What guarantee comes with this promise? Season ticket refunds? No? Nothing but meaningless bluster.

  3. pkers - Oct 24, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Well, he doesn’t say anything about losing MORE than 100 games next year. So maybe he thinks they’ll lose 120 games? That’s “not even close” to 100, right?

  4. shawnuel - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    F#$k David Samson! (can’t remember who said that)

    • 4d3fect - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:40 PM

      Jeff Loria, I think.

  5. indaburg - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    They’re just aiming for mediocrely bad next year instead of horrifically bad? If you’re going to be bad, why not be historically awful? Dream big.

    • rbj1 - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:39 PM

      0 – 162 baby! A record that will never be broken. Move over 1899 Cleveland Spiders.

    • unclemosesgreen - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM

      Mediocre badness comes with less expensive draft choices. Crappy but still cheap.

      • indaburg - Oct 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM

        Congratulations, good sir. I hope you’re enjoying today in a nice hungover glaze as I would be if roles were reversed. It pains me to admit the best team won. At the same time, there’s a sense of satisfaction in that (even if it is the Red Sox.)

      • unclemosesgreen - Oct 31, 2013 at 8:47 AM

        Thanks Burgie – I’m certainly enjoying the afterglow. I’m booze-free 2 months now – good boys don’t drink when they are recovering & taking drugs which are metabolized in the liver. My liver has enough to do – Amirite?

        I miss my wine & whiskey but I have lots of healing to do yet – 4 weeks until I can put partial weight on my right leg.

        This whole playoff run was certainly well timed for an extended convalescence though, I must say. The guy who’s been living in his living room certainly appreciated it.

      • indaburg - Oct 31, 2013 at 9:54 AM

        Good boys don’t mix opiates and ETOH. I didn’t realize you were still on them. Ouch. 4 more weeks until you can bear weight. You really did quite a number on that leg. I wish you a speedy recovery. On the plus side, your alcohol tolerance will be next to nothing from all that abstaining. You’ll be a cheap date.

      • unclemosesgreen - Oct 31, 2013 at 10:14 AM

        I went from dilaudid to tramadol & Tylenol to now just tramadol but it still wouldn’t do me right.

        I’m way too Irish to be that cheap of a date. The tolerance can only ever drop so low. It’s like a medium-high tolerance for a normal person.

      • unclemosesgreen - Dec 5, 2013 at 10:32 AM

        Hot trade rumor – Price for Taijuan Walker, Nick Franklin and another prospect. Depending on the 2nd prospect that could be very interesting.

      • indaburg - Dec 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM

        I’m hearing Brad Miller, possibly.

      • unclemosesgreen - Dec 8, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        Miller instead of Franklin, plus Walker and another prospect. Very interesting.

  6. fearthehoody - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    They’re right! They’ll lose 101 plus games

  7. tfbuckfutter - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    Right after this guarantee, David Samson was traded to the Houston Astros for cash considerations, and the janitor was promoted to team president.

    • tfbuckfutter - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

      I should also mention, a handsome 2.5% raise was included with the promotion.

      But he also has to continue with all his original responsibilities as well.

      • dan1111 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:13 AM

        He has to make messes AND clean them up? Sounds like a depressingly futile job.

  8. shawnuel - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Oh….it was Bill Bavasi.

  9. johnnysoda - Oct 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    How reassuring.

    • tfbuckfutter - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

      It’d be more reassuring if they had lost 101, or 102 or 103 games, and he said “I promise we aren’t going to lose 100 games again.”

      But since they lost exactly 100 games, he might mean they are going to lose 125 next year. Which isn’t even close to 100.

  10. thegonz13 - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    They won’t lose 100 games… they will lose 110 games.

    Old Gator, I believe this is your cue to chime in…

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM

      I anticipate a huge belch.

      • Old Gator - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM


      • Old Gator - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

        …sorry. Bad manners, that.

  11. barrywhererufrom - Oct 24, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    99 loses or bust..Go Marlins!!!

  12. Old Gator - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Well, the rainy season is pretty much over and I guess the floodwaters receded enough to expose the Chihuahua after months of uncanny silence. You gotta give him credit for knowing how to keep his head down and his mouth shut when any little sound could expose him to Scrooge McLoria’s patrolling psychoses. The scythe that passed low enough to decapitate Larry Beinfest – that’s right, it wasn’t the salmon mousse this time – still swept harmlessly over the little guy’s head – though from the peecture, it does seem to have excised his topknot. Oh the shame. Let’s see if it’s enough to make him pull a Mishima on us.

  13. bender4700 - Oct 24, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Some franchises do more with less, but aren’t good enough to get over the top. Some do less with more.

    Miami has no plans to spend money. Loria is still the owner, so nothing the Marlins say is credible. He’s lied before. Why wouldn’t he do it again? New underlings, just makes it easy to say “we mean it this time”.

  14. fatheruburu - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    I can see them doing “as well” as 70-92 next season. But frankly, that is the absolute ceiling for their team as currently constructed.

  15. chiadam - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Note, he never said less than 100 losses. 120 losses also isn’t close to 100 losses.

  16. jrbdmb - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    The only suspense to come out of Miami this year will be whether Stanton is dumped before the 2014 season starts, during the 2014 season, or immediately after the 2014 season.

    If Loria and the Marlins actually paid premium money to lock up a premium player like Stanton (and then kept him for more than half a season), that would mark the first time they ever did that.

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