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The Dodgers could go after David Price, Masahiro Tanaka

Nov 1, 2013, 11:00 PM EST

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Must be nice to have money. And, apparently, prospects. Because the Dodgers are prepared — or are at least able — to go after one of the most expensive free agents and the most desirable trade target this offseason, reports Peter Gammons, who spoke with some GMs who speculate that the Dodgers could do both:

But, suggests several general managers, the Dodgers can avoid the loss of their number one pick and the slot money if they trade for David Price and get Masahiro Tanaka from Japan. “They have the minor league talent to get Price,” says one GM. “If they would trade Corey Seager and Julio Urias (the 17-year old lefthanded pitcher) and a couple out of Zach Lee, Joc Pederson or Chris Withrow, it would get it done. Then if they post $80M for Tanaka, they could have a rotation with four number ones and a number two with Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Price, Tanaka and Hyun-Jin Ryu.

Kinda seems like wishful thinking. But it would be cool to see that much damn talent in one place.

 

  1. sjtorpitt - Nov 1, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Then they can be an even bigger disappointment come playoff time. :)

    • spc7ray - Nov 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM

      Tanaka yes-But this would be way way way too much for Price–They still need to trade for more BATS like Stanton from the Marlins and they could do it by trading Eithier and Crawford and a prospect and money–Remember Stanton is only 25 years old–The Marlins would love Zach Lee-Fife or the 17 yr old–but not all 3–Price For -Pederson-Chris Stewart and the 17 yr old-That would be a lot also–The Dodgers need to move they have a lot to do also–Trading one of the outfielders–Only Eithier or Crawford though–Another starter and 3B and Bullpen–They have a lot to do

  2. misterdreamer119 - Nov 1, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    its gonna happen.

    • raysfan1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:18 AM

      Unlikely. A package of prospects alone won’t get it done to get Price, a Cy Young winner, this winter. The Rays are in position to win now. Any trade this year has to include players that will be starters this year. The package listed above is not enough.

      Also, everything I’ve read so far on Tanaka has the winning bid being more like $100M not $80M. I’m sure the Dodgers can do that, but I expect the Yankees and Rangers to put in bid, and maybe the Red Sox and a couple others too.

      • stevequinn - Nov 3, 2013 at 4:55 AM

        I don’t see the Yankees or Red Sox entering bids. Both teams unloading salary. If anyone submits a $100M bid, it will be the Los Angeles……Angels. No way Moreno lets the Dodgers outbid him and the Angels need pitching badly.

  3. kruegere - Nov 1, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Dangle that carrot Friedman, see how much you can get for Price. Have to try to get someone who is Major League ready back.

  4. babyfarkmcgeezax - Nov 1, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    No, it wouldn’t be cool to see “that much damn talent in one place”, Craig. It would just be further proof that the MLB is set up unfairly and a select few teams have a distinct, unfair advantage over everyone else every year.

  5. mikejr80 - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Not enough money. They’re spending NY money and it didn’t work

    • Glenn - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:49 AM

      I don’t like their ridiculous spending (though thanks for taking the bad Boston contracts) but they were in the play-offs and the Yankees were not. It seems to be working.

      • mikejr80 - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:51 AM

        True.. Its good for the short term. But once they’re old. It starts to show how terrible of an idea it is.

  6. chill1184 - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    So correct me if I’m wrong; silly and crazy season starts 5 or 6 days after the world series ends right?

    • indaburg - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:16 AM

      We’re bored out of our dogdammed minds.

      • spudchukar - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM

        Sorry inda, I clicked on the new “report comment” button to see what will happen, and now I know.

      • indaburg - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

        So what happened on your end? The internet cops didn’t show up at my apartment, I’m disappointed to report.

    • raysfan1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:42 AM

      You are not wrong.

  7. ewampus - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    I’m starting to hate the Dodgers

    • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:02 AM

      Why? Because other writers tell you rumors that may or may not be true about them?

      Wow. What a thinker.

      • spudchukar - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

        Pretty sure he was referring to the enormous amount of cash the Dodgers are prepared to dish out.

  8. voidhelix - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    I thin the Blue Jays have a better shot at Price than LA. They could offer Aaron Sanchez, Stroman and Anthony Gose. Price would stay on the East Coast, in the same division and Toronto would finally have an ace.

    • indaburg - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:50 AM

      “Price would stay on the East Coast, in the same division and Toronto would finally have an ace.”

      This is why a trade with the Jays or any division rival is highly unlikely to happen. Why would the Rays want to keep him in the same division? Seeing as they’re divisional opponents and all…

      • raysfan1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

        Absolutely. No way the Rays trade a key player within the division unless the other team offers such a one-sided deal that they’d be fools not to go for it.

    • paperlions - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:35 AM

      Gose has almost no value. Great defense, can’t hit. He’s rounding error in terms of what Price could bring in return. Seager is a better prospect than anyone the Jays have. Sanchez has a high ceiling, but he’s still really far from reaching it, still has problems with control, walking a crap-ton of hitters. Stroman is 5’9″, which makes teams very concerned about his ability to remain a starter. A package of Seager, Lee, Pederson blows away anything Toronto could offer….and it isn’t even close.

      Of course, Seager’s most likely MLB position is 3B, and the Rays don’t really need one of those, moving him to 1B or a corner OF position limits his value compared to his athleticism….but they could find somewhere to play his bat.

      • spudchukar - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:46 PM

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cards made a move with the Rays that includes Adams.

      • paperlions - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        I would. Price with be expensive this year, with 2 years of control, and there is no doubt he’ll be a FA….the Cardinals are not deep in bats and Adams isn’t good enough to be a center piece in the deal. They’d have to give up a lot, including young pitching and position players.

        If the Cardinals decide to do something expensive, I actually wouldn’t mind seeing them go after Ellsbury…but what they don’t need is more lefty bats….but he would help with speed, athleticism, offense and defense.

      • spudchukar - Nov 2, 2013 at 6:25 PM

        It wasn’t Price that I was referring to, but admittedly, I didn’t make that clear. I was thinking more along the lines of either Zobrist or Jennings.

      • paperlions - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:23 PM

        Oooooohhhhh. Yeah, that would make more sense.

    • yankeefan1950 - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

      Toronto is on the east coast? When did they move it and why wasn’t I notified?

  9. xpensivewinos - Nov 2, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    And baseball doesn’t need a salary cap?

    One of many reasons why football is now superior to baseball.

    • Reflex - Nov 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

      Nope, it doesn’t. Baseball has had more of its teams in the playoffs and a wider variety of WS champions than football. Meanwhile the Dodgers missed the WS this year, as did the Yankees, despite being the high spenders.

      • chiadam - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:55 AM

        It’s not just a matter of whether or not the Dodgers won the WS last year. It’s about more than half the league never having a chance at winning one. And at this rate, that’s where we’re at.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        The Dodgers pulled in over 3.5 million in attendance this year at home. Furthermore, the Dodgers led the league in visitor’s attendance with another 3+ million watching them. Somebody in MLB is very happy about these numbers.

        But, yeah, they didn’t win the World Series last year. They still played a pretty good year, and whether you want to admit it or not, half their “overspend” was paid for by giving up rights to a bunch of minor league talent that wouldn’t have gotten them into the NLCS.

        Food for thought and stuff.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 2, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        It’s not just a matter of whether or not the Dodgers won the WS last year. It’s about more than half the league never having a chance at winning one. And at this rate, that’s where we’re at.

        And how is this any different than the NFL?

      • gibbyfan - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM

        Church—-No matter what your feeling about MLB payroll it is different in the NFL…not saying whether good or bad but ther eis a salry cap and if you look at teams such as the Oakland Raiders who I guess are the absolute worst team over the past ten years–it has nothing to do with lack of spending it has to do with incredibly poor management, scouting, drafting,trading etc. ……Their payroll was the same as the 49ers, Ravens etc. so with $$$ being equal they were unable to compete on the field due mainly to ability of ownership to field a decent team

      • Reflex - Nov 2, 2013 at 2:59 PM

        gibbyfan – You can say the same thing in baseball however. The Rays, Oakland and several other small market teams make the playoffs consistently, and many mid-market teams like the Cards and Braves do the same despite having payrolls 1/4-1/2 of the big players in their league and division. The bad teams tend to be bad because of bad management, bad scouting, drafting, off and on field decisions.

        There is no evidence that salary caps impact league parity, if anything it permits badly run teams to appear to be doing all they can to win while enriching owners.

    • ezthinking - Nov 2, 2013 at 2:46 AM

      Let’s have a salary cap on posting. If you can’t figure out that the money is already there and a “cap” distributes it mostly to the billionaire owners, then there is no hope for you.

    • indaburg - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:03 AM

      Nah, baseball doesn’t. Price is also a relative bargain. He makes $10.1 million this year and he’s under contract until 2016. He’s arbitration eligible this year and will likely see his salary climb up to a whopping $13 million. Of course, for us minions, that’s crazy money, but for a baseball player with his kind of arm, that’s cheap. Again, it’s all relative. True, the Dodgers have a high team salary and may have to get creative, but compared to what they’re already paying, I’m sure they can figure that math out. And holy moly. That rotation would be sick. Kershaw, Greinke, Price.

      (Maybe the “poorer” team owners shouldn’t pocket the luxury tax money and instead spend it on their team?)

      • paperlions - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:40 AM

        Price is only under team control for 2 more years. In arbitration this year, he’s more likely to get something north of $15M.

      • indaburg - Nov 2, 2013 at 9:57 AM

        I said Price is under contract until 2016. That’s two years, no?

        I based the $13 million number from a recent Tampa Bay Times article I read. Even at $15 million, that’s still a relative bargain. We’re not talking a significant difference.

      • raysfan1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:34 AM

        The Rays can afford the arbitration money this year, which is part of why I keep saying packages OG just prospects won’t get it done to get Price this winter. James Shields was two years from FA and brought in a major-league ready bat in Myers and major league ready pitcher in Odorizzi. The cost to get Price will be higher if a team really wants him this year. The Rays have a roster that can challenge for WS in 2014; I don’t see them scuttling it. Any trade will need to have the potential to improve those chances, or the Rays will keep him for another year.

        All that said, even with the luxury tax money, the Rays still have the lowest income in MLB and legitimately have to operate on a relatively tight budget. They can pay Price the $13-15M this year, but possibly double that for the FA market after the 2015 season, and it’s too much for them to afford then.

      • indaburg - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:38 AM

        I completely agree, raysfan1–it will take more than just prospects. It would take something insane, like the Cardinals trading Wacha and Matt Carpenter (who is basically a younger, cheaper, and better version of Ben Zobrist) for Price. I don’t see that happening.

      • raysfan1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:39 AM

        Of, not OG…strange typo

      • Anoesis - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        It’s HBT and OG=Old Gator. Your brain knows this, probably your phone, too.

  10. quintjs - Nov 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

    Well, they CAN avoid losing their first round pick by trading top quality prospects for Price but umm…

  11. showtimefolks007 - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:01 AM

    No if the Yankees have any say about it. Rays won’t trade price within division but we will get the kid from Japan if we want. Dodgers are the new kid on the block while we been spending for over a decade lol(not proud of it either lol)

    I think Yankees will make a statement as to they get who they want and money is no object

  12. maikoch - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:19 AM

    Steroids.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      Moron.

  13. pastabelly - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:15 AM

    We heard about “the Cardinal Way”. This is The Dodger Way.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:14 AM

      And then there’s the PastaBelly way. Bumper sticker logic that explains nothing.

      Anyways… it’s not that you spend money, it’s how you spend it. The Dodgers and Yankees aren’t the only ones with multiple $10 million contracts. In fact, $10 million a season seems to be the new normal for average MLB talent.

      • pastabelly - Nov 2, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        Ouch that hurts. :).

        And thank you to the Dodgers, who made the duck boat parade possible in Boston today.

        If the Dodgers don’t get what they want this winter, Lester and Scherzer will be there for them next season.

      • gibbyfan - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM

        Hey Koufax —On a post several months agao–maybe even befor ethe season- I think it was you who mentioned something very positive about Michael Wacha the young Cardinal pitcher–If that was you–great call–I’m cardinal fan and didnt see it back then myself —

  14. tfbuckfutter - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:16 AM

    If they don’t offer Tanaka a contract he likes I hope his manager Mr. Fuji busts out the cane and cracks some skulls

  15. istallion - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    Please do trade for Price. Go after Tanaka, but leave Price alone. I want to see our youth come up. Trade Ethier too.

  16. razorbyrd - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    here’s a compromise for you… keep Price on the East Coast, but send him to the National League…

    I’m sure the Nationals could conjure up enough prospects to trade for him… with a rotation of Strasburg, Gonzalez, Price, & Zimmermann, they could have one of the Racing Presidents as their 5th starter…

  17. spc7ray - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Joc Pederson-Andy Vanslyke and that 17 years old Julio kid would be plenty for Price–We don’t need them and Price is only 29

    • raysfan1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:41 PM

      1st, it’s Scott Van Slyke. His father Andy retired something like 18 years ago. So, you think the Rays would go for a AA player, a rookie league player, and a journeyman OF/1B is good enough to get an ace pitcher for a playoff team? That’s delusional.

  18. onbucky96 - Nov 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Damn, seems there’s a new Evil Empire. Cue the Imperial March…

  19. spc7ray - Nov 8, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    No Seager–we need a 3B are there just isnt any out there–Joc Pederson-Vanslyke and Zach Lee and if thats not enough the 17 year old kid maybe–I still wanna go after Giancarlo Stanton -start with trading Eithier and prospects and money–Also go after Tanaka-Look Price is 29-Stanton is 25–Tanaka is 26 all still young enough–Add those 3 and we will still be young and killer!

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