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Mitch Williams and Len Dykstra got into it at a card show

Nov 4, 2013, 8:39 AM EDT

Lenny Dykstra AP

A few years ago — before he went to prison and presumably got off all of the substances he was on — Lenny Dykstra enjoyed talking smack about Mitch Williams, blaming him for losing the 1993 World Series and such.

Which, sure, maybe his ineffectiveness was the main cause of that, but rarely do you hear former teammates being so pointed about it, especially many years later. Indeed, Dykstra’s inability to separate sporting life from real life and to let old bad things retreat into the past is pretty good evidence of the sort of baloney floating around his head which caused him to get into all kinds of trouble to begin win.

Well, he’s a free man now, and he was at the same memorabilia show at a mall recently and they bumped into each other. Mitch didn’t want anything to do with Dykstra, as this video from NBC 10 in Philadelphia shows.

Can’t say as I blame Williams.

  1. proudlycanadian - Nov 4, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Post the 1993 World Series, Mitch Williams and Joe Carter get along quite well and have golfed together. They have had a good life after baseball careers ended.

    Dykstra on the other hand has had a lot of difficulty in the real world. A shrink might help him.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Nov 4, 2013 at 6:26 PM

      In the late 90’s, Carter came to Williams charity evenst, and afterwards the two were interviewed. Carter – who is a class guy – gave a very serious and thoughtful comment that players careers are judged by many things, and really there is no difference between those two in the grand scheme of things. Williams dead panned “Yes, I agree. He leads the life of Riley, people dump trash on my lawn. It’s really no different”

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 4, 2013 at 7:07 PM

        Great post.

      • mick2014 - Nov 4, 2013 at 9:19 PM

        Lenny’s mad because he would have been easily voted the WS MVP if the Phils would have won. 4 clutch homeruns & 4 stolen bases! Now instead of charging a premium for his autograph at card shows he does not have the title to make any decent money. Williams is easy to blame.

  2. rickdobrydney - Nov 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Dykstra, a clown from the word go from WAY back……

  3. cur68 - Nov 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    If Dykstra’s huge ego and lack of sense hadn’t destroyed Lenny’s life so badly already I’d be all for Mitch Williams beating the snot out of him. It goes to show how much better a person Williams is than Dykstra since he didn’t lay into the idiot.

    Anyways, it was good to see Darren Daulton there. I hope he’s doing as well as he looks, since he seemed healthy enough.

  4. jm91rs - Nov 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    I Lenny’s mad because Mitch didn’t want to join him in his grand theft auto scheme?

  5. irishdodger - Nov 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Good for Mitch. Dykstra seems belligerent. I used to like Lenny when he was coming up early in his career and had the “Nails” reputation of hustling & playing hard…but that was obviously an act that wore thin fast.

    • jeffa43 - Nov 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM

      Dykstra is a mess and has made plenty of bad decisions.

      With that said, the way he played and hustled was no act. Breaking ribs while diving into walls to catch balls is not an act. Lenny deserved the nails reputation for his Pete Rose style of play, and you can’t take that away from him…. Even though he became a loser off the field.

    • billybawl - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

      I think it was in Moneyball that Billy Beane recalled spring training with Dykstra when both were Mets prospects. They were watching the opposing pitcher warm up when Dykstra asked, “Who’s that guy? I’m going to stick him.” He had no idea, or couldn’t care less, that it was Steve Carlton. His arrogance and delusional confidence served him well enough when he was a player, but are a serious liability off the field. Much like Pete Rose.

  6. rugdaniels - Nov 4, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    I believe these guys were in town as part of a few fund raising events for Darren Daulton’s cancer foundation. Even when Lenny tries to do something positive he still manages to come off looking like an idiot.

    Mitch Williams looks like the bigger man here but he’s apparently a bit of hot head too. I recall he was kicked out of one of his kids youth basketball games a few years ago. Ha.

    • sincitybonobo - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:44 PM

      Mitch could commit several hundred similar transgressions and still not come close to being the slimeball that Lenny is. Carefully with the false equivalency. Dykstra is lucky to be on this side of the joint.

  7. raysfan1 - Nov 4, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Dykstra, and anyone who agrees with him, should also go back and look at that series. Williams’ pitching was definitely an adventure at time but (1) he did not pitch in the game 1or 3 losses, (2) he did get a scoreless 5-out save in game 2, (3) the other Phillies pitchers also allowed 12 runs in addition to his 3, (4) and by the time game 6 rolled around he had heard multiple death threats. I don’t know if that really affected him in game 6, but the manager should at least have had him on a short leash in an elimination game. In short, he earned his share of the blame but by no means did he lose that series on his own.

    • ewyorksockexchange - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      Also, Mitch Williams pitched an obscene amount of innings for a reliever in several seasons before 1993. He was a very old 28 at that point, and his 62 innings in 65 games in 1993 were the higher than any other yearly totals from that year on. He never pitched more than 20 innings in a year in the bigs after the 1993 season. He was just worn down. There is also an argument to be made that he was overworked in the postseason in ’93. All in all, he pitched in 7 of the Phillies 12 postseason games that year.

  8. kylewo - Nov 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Several years back I worked for a company that provided a home service. He was 180 days delinquent. We usually cancelled people at 90 days. I called to tell him, and he cussed me out for a solid 90 seconds before I hung up. Sad that I (a glorified customer service rep) apparently had a bigger bank account than a former pro ball player. Then again I didn’t put all my money up my nose.

  9. drewnichols81 - Nov 4, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Hey Lenny man you got one in ’86, time to let ’93 go. Williams wasnt the only inefective reliever on that squad

  10. dexterismyhero - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    She is doing porn you goofball!!!!

  11. dexterismyhero - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Lenny looks like he could be a drywall nail now!!!!

    Fat, drunk, stupid, and in prison is not way to go through life.

  12. Walk - Nov 4, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    In prison dealers bring drugs to you, outside you have to go get them yourself. I made a single traffic stop one night. When the night ended, which was the middle of the next day the investigation took us straight into the local county jail and netted over a dozen arrests. I had picked up on the tail end of another investigation and the dealer at the end of the chain, well as far as i could get information on, was already arrested pending bail. A search of the jail was conducted. The same people i wanted for questioning, who had been locked up that weekend, were already sitting on contraband.

    • cur68 - Nov 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM

      If you’d finished that anecdote with “…and one of them was Lenny Dykstra” I would not have been the least surprised.

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