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Dbacks owner on the Dodgers: “we owe them”

Nov 8, 2013, 4:24 PM EDT

I predict that, over the next five years, the Dbacks vs. the Dodgers will be the fiercest .500 team vs. winning team rivalry in all of sports. To continue the bad blood — all of which seems to be flowing from Phoenix to L.A. and none back — here is the Diamondbacks’ owner Ken Kendrick:

“We owe those guys,” Kendrick said. “I think to get the opportunity to begin the payback for them winning the division the very first day of the season is a great opportunity for us.”

The Dodgers, when reached for comment, said “who?”

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  1. Anoesis - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Are those poor D-bags still butt-hurt over the pool thing? Sheesh, they may think they “owe” the Dodgers but right now the Dodgers “own” them.

    • craigbhill - Nov 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM

      WE OWN THE WEST. That means you, Douche-bags.

      • thisdamnbox - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:00 PM

        Actually, the Dodgers were “putrid” against the NL West, and the Giants owned the division. It was the rest of the league the Dodgers did most of their damage against.

        I know this isn’t the full season report, but here is an article about how badly the Dodgers did against their own division through June: http://www.truebluela.com/2013/6/3/4392836/dodgers-nl-west

      • Anoesis - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:50 PM

        They sucked against anyone they played UNTIL the end of June, then they took off. Your link conveniently covers only the poor part of their season.

        Overall they were 37-39 against the NL West. Not great, but hardly putrid. The Giants were 44-32 in the division, but 32-54 against everyone else. I’ll take the Dodgers’ split every time.

      • thisdamnbox - Nov 10, 2013 at 3:59 AM

        The article linked was the best I could find on short notice…I’m not as big a stat-head as most of this forum. I only remember reading that the Giants owned the west, and not your Dodgers…Obviously, if given the choice of 2010 or 2012 I would’ve gone with that, or even traded the Dodgers’ split to a playoff exit. But that doesn’t follow Sabean’s master plan of sucking a** every odd-numbered season and winning the even.

  2. Kevin Gillman - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    It takes alot of “grit” to say D-Backs owe Dodgers, and it starts in the forst game of the season. Wow.

  3. gbrim - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Kendrick has planted his foot in his mouth in the local media many times during his time as owner, now he is embarrassing himself on a national scale. As a DBacks fan, I suggest Kendrick muzzle himself and let the team’s performance speak for itself.

  4. raysfan1 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    …and here I thought swimming pools were supposed to be fun

  5. nsauser - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Kendrick must think the Dodgers are an “enigma”.

  6. toddswed21 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Nice. The whole thing reminds me of Bill Murray getting the babyruth in the pool. He didn’t care. Neither do the Dodgers about what they did. Or more so there fans. Its respectability that has gone out the door.

    • misterj167 - Nov 8, 2013 at 7:04 PM

      Actually, Bill Murray’s character didn’t put the Baby Ruth bar in the pool. He did, however, take a bite out of it after cleaning out the pool, which caused a bit of old lady fainting…

      • Anoesis - Nov 8, 2013 at 9:17 PM

        “Doody!”

  7. lanflfan - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Is there nothing else to do in Phoenix but sit and stew?

    • Anoesis - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:51 PM

      There is if someone else is hogging your pool.

      • Anoesis - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:51 PM

        *isn’t

    • bb91103 - Nov 11, 2013 at 8:56 PM

      Nope.

    • bb91103 - Nov 11, 2013 at 8:56 PM

      Unless you really like golf.

  8. biasedhomer - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Over the next five years, the Dbacks vs. the Dodgers will be the fiercest .500 team vs. most overpaid team rivalry in all of sports.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM

      Overpaid? The Dodgers made the second round of the playoffs and were helped out of it by a broken rib to their 3rd place hitter. This is after replenishing a roster that the previous owner– a huckster who took ticket money to buy SEVEN HOMES– created (via trade, see… as in, they picked up other peoples’ tabs.) It’s not what you spend, but how and on whom. As Ricky Nolasco is expecting an $80 million contract, and Ervin Santana $100 million, keep that in mind. And what did the Giants sign Lincecum to again?

      But yeah, yeah, yeah. The Dodgers make you stew in your piss. Arrrrrgh!

      • biasedhomer - Nov 8, 2013 at 8:00 PM

        “It’s not what you spend, but how and on whom.”

        I’m glad you brought that up. You have already seen how the Dodgers just throw out money, knowingly overpaying players. Ethier for $85 million? Plus $17.5M option that becomes guaranteed if he get around 1000 PA in the previous 2 years. Then you have League at 3 years $22.5M, this is a guy who isn’t even a reliable setup man.

        And this is only after the 1st year of the new regime. In a few more years, things will only look worse, unless they decide to spend more wisely.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:48 AM

        So tell us what kind of contract you expect 5/10 MLB players to receive. $17 million for Ethier may sound like an overreach, but it really isn’t. That’s because the MLB union is the strongest union in the land.

        Do you have objections to Zack Greinke’s contract? They signed him for a lot of money and, well, he proved to have earned it last season.

        And still, the results: 1st place rather than 4th. 2nd round of playoffs rather than 1st. 3.5 million home attendance + 3 million road attendance rather than not.

        They are making money hand over fist. The fans are responding through the turnstiles all over the country.

      • paperlions - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        Nah, the Either contract was dumb the day it was signed. It was in response to him having a good month or two, and then he immediately went back to being who he is…which isn’t that great. Which is why they can’t even give the guy away. He is way overpaid given his productivity, ability, and age. It was an especially bad deal given that Ethier wasn’t even a FA yet.

        The more relevant point you could have made is that it was the previous ownership that agreed to do that deal (even though it was the same GM, that probably isn’t as relevant as the ownership that approved it).

    • kingscourt25 - Nov 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM

      Rather be overpaid in the playoffs then being forever in 3rd place

    • bb91103 - Nov 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM

      You are worth whatever someone is willing to pay you and the team is profitable. Of course you are too stupid to see the second part of that scenario.

      • biasedhomer - Nov 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM

        The reason they are profitable is because they are winning. Once they start struggling, the bandwagoners will jump off. And they will struggle in a few years if they continue to overpay players for past performances. Grienke looks good now, but there is still plenty of money on that deal, and he isn’t going to get any younger. He may live up to that contract, he may not. Same goes for the other big contracts they have. And they may end up paying Kershaw $300M, look how fast things can take a turn for promising young pitchers. More often than not, players don’t live up to the bloated contracts.
        But you are too busy with childish remarks to ever consider both sides of an argument.

  9. schm1471 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Just as an exercise, imagine any other team’s owner saying that. Imagine Magic Johnson saying that he “owed” the Cardinals for eliminating his team and that in 2014 he wanted “payback.” Pretty minimal outrage, I’d imagine.

    • Anoesis - Nov 8, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      A) Magic has more class than resorting to grade-school taunts;
      B) Dodgers/Cards met in a playoff series, D-backs led the division and then folded like a cheap card table when the Dodgers got hot;
      C) “The Best Fans in Baseball” would show no outrage, as it isn’t in the handbook of allowable emotions;
      D) Pretty minimal outrage as it is in this situation.

      The D-backs owner did that to fire up his team and fanbase. Whatever it takes, I suppose. Perhaps next year they’ll be more competitive and Dodgers’ fans can move from amused to slightly concerned. Outrage seems a bit out of reach. Unless, you know, it’s hiding in the pool or something.

  10. koufaxmitzvah - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Remember, folks, this is a natural rivalry. As natural as aspartame is as a sweetener.

    • craigbhill - Nov 8, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      The Douchers better not go head-hunting. I hope the Dodgers have had it with all our guys getting hit by theirs. We need to start it by hitting Goldschmidt to hurt him. Like when they hit Puig in the nose. WTF else was that, but a desired injury? Eff them very much.

      btw we play them 8 of the first 18 and 11 of the first 44 games of the season, so Mattingly better have an offensive plan all laid out before we play em, or if he’s caught unawares, like the lummox he is, fire him.

      And he BETTER have the teaqm prepared to play at a top-notch level when we open in Australia. If AZ sweeps those 2 and makes the Dodgers look asleep at the switch, Mattingly should be LOUDLY BOOED at home when the season starts, because it’s gonna look too much like last year’s horrible start for comfort.

      • acdc84 - Nov 10, 2013 at 3:25 AM

        The Dodgers owe the D-Backs. I know Kennedy moved from one crappy NL West team to another, but the Dodgers were on the short end of that brawl. Puig gets hit in the HEAD, so Greinke rightfully evens the score by hitting Montero. In the torso. An eye for an eye, and it that should have settled it.

        But no, the D-Backs decide to take it too far and escalate things, by throwing at ANOTHER Dodger hitter’s head. It’s so obvious that pitch was intentional, as Kennedy started a swift walk to his dug-out after his pitch follow-through without breaking stride. If the rest of the D-Backs had any class they would have stayed in the dug-out and thrown Kennedy back on the field to defend his head-hunting all by himself.

    • craigbhill - Nov 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM

      You’re a natural idiot. Rivalries crop up when they become a little viscious, and we have passed that stage already. A rivalry doesn’t depend on past history or geography, tho this rivalry has both of those, too.

      Reminds me of the Red Sox-Rays rivalry that’s become hot in the several years.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM

        Huh? I’m an idiot because I compared the “natural rivalry” between Phoenix and LA with a cancer causing sweetener compared to real, live sugar?

        Pitchers and catchers don’t report for another 95 days. I’ll allow that as your excuse.

  11. misterj167 - Nov 8, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    This is getting serious. I hear Ken Kendrick just signed Richie Incognito and wants to use him as a “Designated Hitter”.

    • Anoesis - Nov 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM

      More of a pitcher-type. You know, sitting behind the Dodgers’ dugout and hurling ethnic slurs.

  12. imthedudedude - Nov 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Don’t think it matters really. Dodgers sucked it up in the playoffs, didn’t win anything. Nobody will remember the 2011-2012 dodgers.

    • stercuilus65 - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM

      “Imthedude”? More like “Imtheidiot”!

    • bb91103 - Nov 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

      I can’t name 3 guys on the Diamondbacks, D-Bags, D-Backs whatever the team is call nowadays.

  13. imthedudedude - Nov 8, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    Or 2012-2013 dodgers

  14. pipkin42 - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Arizona is the home of some super virulent anti-immigrant racism. So they’re just playing to their fans.

  15. gloccamorra - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Well, peeing in somebody’s pool is serious business. Neighborhood grudges have resulted, so baseball is just reflecting American society. Either that, or Kendrick is trying to drum up season ticket sales.

  16. delusionalcardsfan - Nov 9, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    The only thing worse than The Dodgers is Dodger fans and that is a scientific fact!

    • Anoesis - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM

      From a delusional best fan in baseball.

  17. jkaflagg - Nov 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Always wonder how many players say “…..Gee, my owner says we ‘owe’ them…..guess I’d better buckle down against these guys !!!!”…..

    Wonder if any players will remind Kendrick that he’ll need to break out some cash to acquire and/or keep good players if they want to have any chance to stay with the Dodgers going forward…..

    • bb91103 - Nov 11, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      None. Only the dumb fans will because they expect players to take a discount to play the game they love. Meanwhile, none of them are paid less than what they are worth at their job. Actually they migh not be. That explains why they are so bitter about other peole’s salary.

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