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Carlos Beltran wants three or four years

Nov 9, 2013, 8:58 AM EST

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Carlos Beltran‘s time in St. Louis is likely over, as Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports reports that he will turn down the club’s qualifying offer and hopes to land a three- or four-year deal in free agency.

It’s pretty amazing that a three- or four-year deal could be even semi-realistic given Beltran’s knee issues during the end of his tenure with the Mets, but he has remained mostly healthy and productive over the last three seasons, averaging 146 games played. He batted .296/.339/.491 with 24 home runs and 84 RBI this season and could be poised to capitalize following another strong postseason.

Brown reports that six teams have expressed “varying degrees of interest” thus far and names the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, Orioles, and Phillies among possible fits. It’s no surprise that most are American League teams, as Beltran turns 37 years old next April and would be an ideal fit in a situation where he can get some designate hitter time in order to stay fresh.

  1. xpensivewinos - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    This has Yankees or Orioles overspend written all over it……

    • missthemexpos - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:56 AM

      You go Beltran, gotta know this is your final contract so take advantage of the situation and set yourself for a nice retirement and watch the offers come in.

      • sportsfan18 - Nov 9, 2013 at 7:58 PM

        Set himself up for a nice retirement? Really?

        He’s ALREADY earned just a tick under $161 million dollars in his career so far…

    • genericcommenter - Nov 9, 2013 at 4:27 PM

      Depends on if Hal wants him, I guess.

    • mick2014 - Nov 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM

      His chances of going back to a World Series are better with STL then any other team. Looks like he only cares about the money. Asking for 4 yrs is just a negotiating ploy to get 2 yrs with a 3rd yr team option or buyout. Heck i will offer him those 4 yrs he wants at a 1 million salary per season. Then i save 10.1 million!

      • sportsfan18 - Nov 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM

        He doesn’t only care about the money as he’s already made just under $161 million so far in his career.

        His hall of fame case is on the edge right now and he’s looking for more seasons to get the rate stats to push him from being on the fence of the HOF to on the side where he’ll make it for sure.

  2. mybrunoblog - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    I hope whoever signs him thinks about what he is going to do over the next 3 years NOT what he has done. Age 37 in April with bad knees is very tricky. He will have to sign with an AL team to DH to keep his legs fresh. I hope the Yankees avoid him and look elsewhere.

    • proudlycanadian - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      Killjoy! I hope they sign him, gimpy knees and all.

      • byjiminy - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:58 AM

        [No actual comment, I just wanted to tell the moderator that I accidentally hit “report comment,” and it was a total accident! I wasn’t trying to report anything at all! I couldn’t find a way to un-report it. All I could think of was to publicly renounce myself here. So I hereby announce my full support of proudlycanadian. In fact, Go Jays!]

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM

        No problem

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:32 AM

        By the way, it is thought that the Jays tried to sign him 2 years ago, but he did not want to play on an artificial surface because of his knees.

      • Old Gator - Nov 9, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        Hey PC, this has nothing to do with baseball – but then, neither does designatedhitterball and they talk about that here too, so – have you been noting the P/R for the Kennedy Suite performances at the Winter Garden in a couple of weeks? I’ve had the CD for a couple of months (I have friends in the castle) and it’s going to be a hell of a show. Most of the best musicians in Toronto and environs are involved.Just a suggestion. I think the Friday show is sold out already but there may be some good tickets left for Saturday. I’m coming up for both.

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

        Enjoy. I have other plans.

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 9, 2013 at 5:15 PM

        This month, I am doing some very serious beaver trapping and have no time to go to a concert. The Winter Garden is a great venue, so I expect that you will have a wonderful time.

      • Old Gator - Nov 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM

        PS – smoked meat sandwiches at Caplansky’s have nothing to do with it.

        Much.

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

        On their facebook page today, Caplansky’s announced that they have just been voted the best Deli and the best Food Truck in Toronto by Now Magazine.

      • Old Gator - Nov 9, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        If they had asked me, I could have told them that. You can get smoked meat donuts from the food truck. No one else can make that claim.

    • genericcommenter - Nov 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      Yeah, I definitely want to see the Yankees avoid signing old guys to multi-year deals.

  3. hustleandflomax - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Loved him during his brief tenure with the Cards & was hoping he would come back on a 1 or 2 year deal, but not 3 or 4. Thanks for the memories, Carlos, and good luck on your quest for the ring!

  4. chill1184 - Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Love Beltran and loved watching him play at Shea and Citi but he needs to realize that his defense isn’t what it used to be. Based on the numbers, this past season was his worst defensively. Any NL team would be stupid to give him 3 to 4 years with his degrading knees. He’s much better suited for the AL

    • MLBlogsbig3bosox - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      Oh yeah that explains the Phillies interest.

  5. gibbyfan - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Smart move by the Cards making the qualifying offfer. He would have been worth the money to them for one more year so that would not have hurt at all……..and now they get the pick which could be big.

  6. blues1988 - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    on another note look what yhis idoot ken Rosenthal is proposing: ” Tulo to the Cardinals for – deep breath now – first baseman Allen Craig, right-handers Shelby Miller and Trevor Rosenthal and a fourth, lesser prospect, with the Rockies paying a chunk of Tulowitzki’s remaining $130 million.”

    • paperlions - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:51 AM

      That is probably what Colorado would want for Tulo. In many ways, such a deal would make sense…I am not saying I would be in favor of it, just that it would make sense. When healthy, Tulo is one of the 3 or 4 best players in the NL. The Cardinals have money to spend, they need a SS, they have a younger viable replacement for Craig (who turns 30 in July), and as much as I love Miller and Rosenthal…the Cardinals have options for those spots as well. Yes, that is a ton to give up, but it would probably make the Cardinals a better team since they have available replacements and more than enough budget space to do the deal and still have room for other moves.

      • spudchukar - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        More likely Adams, Miller, Lyons, and minor prospects. Cards won’t part with Rosenthal, and the Rockies would be smarter to ask for healthier, younger Adams. And the Cards should entertain the offer, although I still think it is a pipe dream.

        While wallowing in reverie, how about the Adams, Miller, Lynn, and Lyons, for Headley, Cabrera and Maybin.

      • spudchukar - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM

        Should add Freese to the mix, and save Lyons or Lynn.

    • Carl Hancock - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      If that’s what the Rockies want, Tulo will never be a Cardinal. That deal is simply insane. Sorry. Completely insane.

      • thepoolshark - Nov 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM

        That is a ton to give up. They should look at Andrus or Profar from Texas. Both are defensive whiz’s and Andrus has SB speed, will hit .275-.290 but no power. He also has 9 years and $120MM+ contract left which may scare the Cards off, but I think Texas may eat some of that for some of the Cards young arms like Martinez/Kelly. Both teams have what the other needs, so I’m keeping an eye on the rumors.

    • jwbiii - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM

      Troy Renck at the Denver Post has been writing about this quite a lot recently. His take is that the Cardinals will call the Rockies and the Rockies will want too much.

      http://sulia.com/channel/colorado-rockies/f/682dd8fe-c05e-47be-9ecf-34a10a83b0bb/?source=twitter&repost=120

  7. gibbyfan - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Way too much. Tulo would be a great addition but that price is off the charts. Paper–you parenthetically note that Craig will turn 30 —well how old is Tulo. There are not too many players I would trade Shelby for straight up—Would rather see the cards keep their powder dry and hold a pat hand to start the season.

    • spudchukar - Nov 9, 2013 at 11:44 AM

      They have to do something at SS. The Jay/Robinson/Taveras CF trifecta is tolerable, the current production at SS isn’t. Kozma can’t hit and Descalso is out of position at SS. You cannot have a SS tandem that cannot hit or field.

      • gibbyfan - Nov 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM

        Spud–Dont you think Kozma is at least a decent/average fielder? With all the bats in that lineup they could affford to keep him if they had to…..not saying it’s preferable but its not the end of the world. What about giving Furcal another shot–if he could be gotten with an incentive contract it might work at least for another year..Can’t give up Shelby

      • salvomania - Nov 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

        Cardinals don’t need a stud at SS; if they just get someone who can field the position and who isn’t a black hole at bat, and they’ve improved themselves by a couple games without giving up a bunch of great, young, cheap talent.

        They had the best record in MLB carrying Kozma; they don’t need a Tulo to make the postseason next year, so paying for one would be a mistake.

      • spudchukar - Nov 9, 2013 at 5:35 PM

        With the departure of Furcal, Carpenter, Beltran, and Westbrook the 2014 payroll projects at $76 mil. without additions. The only possible increase is Freese, through arbitration, and his poor 2013 makes his increase less than 5 mil.

        Plus they have Wainwright, Wacha, Miller, Kelly, Lynn, Garcia, Gast, Lyons, and Martinez all battling for the starting rotation.

        Hell, they don’t even have enough spots in AAA, for all the possibilities, much less the Bigs.

        Somebody is expendable. So they have 50 mil, and all the arms. There is no reason they cannot land a top notch SS, with the plethora of riches, and not diminish their 2013 roster. One can argue they have to goods to muster a top tier CF to boot.

      • gibbyfan - Nov 9, 2013 at 7:12 PM

        SPud,
        I wouldn’t want to count of Gast or Lyons just yet…Garcia is coming off injury and Lynn just isnt that great–kelly probably a good three guy……..I don’t necessarily think we are overloaded with Miller caliber pitchers or even close……….We are slow on the bases for sure but one guy is not going to change that………we are a long way from Whitey ball but good now in a diferent way

    • paperlions - Nov 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

      The point wasn’t that Craig is particularly old, just that Adams is much younger/cheaper and a viable replacement for Craig.

      The Cardinals had a huge problem with a lack of athleticism this past year. Jay, Freese, and Craig are noticeable less athletic than they were 2 years ago….when you add that to the older guys and Molina and Adams….man, the team was very slow in the field and on the bases.

  8. stlunatik - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Albert Poopholes #2.

    Soon as you leave St Louis Carlos your career is going down the tube just like his.

    • danwilliamsmlb - Nov 9, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      You are aware that this is a completely different circumstance than Albert’s was, yes?

      No?

      Carlos did a great job in his two years with the Redbirds, but he doesn’t fit into their future plans and he (quite understandably) has no interest in being a bench/role player.

  9. stlunatik - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Can we trade Garcia for a new washing machine for the clubhouse?

    • mick2014 - Nov 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM

      A new leather recliner would be sweet.

  10. chiadam - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    The Phillies? Why? Because they need more old men with huge contracts?

    • jwbiii - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:49 PM

      It’s not a secret that the Phillies are looking for an outfielder. I don’t this Beltran is a good fit for them, but stranger things have happened

      • jwbiii - Nov 9, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        *that* Beltran. . .

        I also don’t think Glenn Beltran is a good fit either.

  11. mick2014 - Nov 10, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    I prefer Charlie Beltran.

  12. brianmark1970 - Nov 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Reblogged this on Brian's Hobbies.

  13. blynch67 - Nov 10, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Two years is much more reasonable, and doable for a lot of teams.

    Four years likely won’t happen, given his knee history.

    Correction: Four years shouldn’t happen, given his knee history.

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