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Tim Hudson, Giants agree to two-year, $23 million deal

Nov 18, 2013, 3:48 PM EDT

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Not only did the Giants hang onto Tim Lincecum, re-signing him to two-year, $35 million, John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that they’re agreed to a deal with free agent right-hander Tim Hudson. Andrew Baggarly of CSNBayArea.com says it’s a two-year, $23 million contract.

Hudson is coming back from a fractured ankle that ended his season in July, but before the injury he was having another strong season at age 37 with a 3.97 ERA and 95/36 K/BB ratio in 131 innings.

He’s posted a sub-4.00 ERA in 13 of his 15 seasons in the majors and has a 3.44 career ERA, including a 3.56 mark in nine years with the Braves. David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports that the Braves initially offered Hudson a one-year deal to return, but later added a second year that still fell short of the Giants’ offer.

UPDATE: Here’s an interesting little twist. Buster Olney of ESPN.com says the A’s, not the Braves, finished runner-up in the Hudson bidding. Hudson was drafted by Oakland and pitched for the A’s from 1999-2004, when he was traded to the Braves.

  1. skids003 - Nov 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Say it ain’t so , Huddy!!!!

    Even if you aren’t a Brave, you’re still a good guy, and I’m rooting for him no matter. Good luck, Tim.

  2. spacemaker101 - Nov 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Been a Braves fan my whole life gonna be hard to see Tim not rocking a Braves jersey.. Wish him the best of luck!

  3. phillysports1 - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    As a phillies fan . Wonderful move … Thanks Tim lol .

  4. gonderfan - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    As a fan of the Giants and the A’s, I am real happy to have Hudson joining the Giants, replacing Zito. I hope to hear that Mark Mulder is working out and will be ready for a comeback in two years.

  5. unclemosesgreen - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Always been a fan – glad he’s going to a pitcher’s park & glad he’s staying with pitcherhitterball because that boy can hit. Hope he comes back totally healthy.

  6. thebadguyswon - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Nice move for the Giants.

  7. President Charles Logan - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    always liked huddy as a brave but the time has come to let go, he’s too inury prone and getting older now.

    • babsports - Nov 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

      Injury prone? No.

      • President Charles Logan - Nov 19, 2013 at 1:03 AM

        Nah you’re right , only had tommy john surgery, 3 or 4 stints on the DL and then last years ankle injury…. but why would i think he’s injury prone? (rolls eyes)

    • henryd3rd - Nov 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

      The man had a sub 4.00 ERA. He’s been durable for all these years and knows how to pitch. His injury was the result of a collision at first base, he’ll have a positive influence on the Giants’ pitching staff and he’s never been associated with any scandal. Why shouldn’t he take his talents to SF? Its a business and I’m sure Atlanta wasn’t offering him that kind of money?

  8. aphillieated - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    No Hudson, no McCann. Yes!

  9. aphillieated - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    This was a good move by the Giants. Won’t win the division for a while though.

    • henryd3rd - Nov 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      Haters are still out there huh?

  10. foreverchipper10 - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Well that’s depressing. Sigh. Gonna miss ya Huddy. :*(

  11. missingdiz - Nov 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    This deal is risky because of Hudson’s age. The Lincecum deal was crazy.

  12. temporarilyexiled - Nov 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Another good pitcher, a couple of good hitters, and we can believe they’re serious about beating the Dodgers.

  13. dshook30 - Nov 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    So this is what Bronson Arroyo will be getting…hmmm. Deal will be nearly identical I predict.

  14. buffalo65 - Nov 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Adding a pitcher to take Cains place when he’s dealt to Toronto for Joey Bats.

  15. mubbcsoc - Nov 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    I have major respect for Hudson but unless they have something else in the works, this is not how to bolster a terrible offense… I hope it all works out but I’m skeptical about 38 year old starters.

  16. NYTolstoy - Nov 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    well that’s not a bad sign whatsoever. Wonder if Volgy is still in the picture. Since Hudson will take over Zitos spot

  17. nsauser - Nov 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    I’m glad for Huddy! It will be a decent hole to fill in his absence. When push comes to shove, I’d rather not have him on ATLs books at this point in his career.

  18. Walk - Nov 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM

    Huddy is a class act, i am sorry to seem him go. He was the braves Roberto Clemente nominee multiple times. His wife kim is also active with him doing charity work. Congrats giants fans, you guys are getting more than just a ball player, you are getting both a team leader and a community one as well.

  19. paperlions - Nov 19, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    So….a 38 yr old pitcher to a deal for $11.5M/year for 2 year is a good deal, but signing a 35 year old catcher for $8.3M/year for 3 years is a bad deal?

    Hudson was on his way to about a 2 WAR season before getting hurt. Ruiz put up 1.4 WAR in about 60% of a season, and would have out-WARred (for whatever that’s worth) Hudson last year….and that is realizing that Catcher defense if undervalued by WAR and that some of Hudson’s value as a GB pitcher was enhanced by having the best SS of this generation behind him.

    • chc4 - Nov 19, 2013 at 9:15 AM

      Thanks for the refresher course on cherrypicking #s to support you theory. I’m no fan of the Hudson deal but I would argue that SF is more likely to get value out of a 38yr old starting pitcher who was having a nice season than Philly is a 35 yr old catcher with an injury history and declining stats. And Ruiz was suspended for PEDs after his best season in 2012 so there’s that too.

      • paperlions - Nov 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        Except, of course, I didn’t cherry pick anything. Ruiz has been more valuable recently than Hudson has, and pitcher decline in production at a similar rate to all other players, indeed, catcher performance declines slightly more slowly than does that of other position players (although survivor bias is a problem with all of that data).

        You should really look up the definition of cherry picking before accusing others of doing it. Hudson has been roughly a league average pitcher for a long time, Ruiz has mostly been an above average defensive and offensive catcher for a long time. Ruiz is younger and no more likely to fall off of a production cliff than is Hudson.

      • chc4 - Nov 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM

        Has he? Ruiz wasn’t very good last year. And I’ll say it again a 35 yr old catcher worries me more than a 38 yr old ground ball pitcher who doesn’t rely on velocity.

        That said I was surprised Hudson got that much $. I wouldn’t have given it to him.

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