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A-Rod’s lawyers delay the release of all the dirt they say they have on Major League Baseball

Nov 22, 2013, 11:03 AM EDT

Yesterday A-Rod’s lawyers said they were going to release all the dirt they have on Major League Baseball to the media some time today.  Those plans have changed:

 

I assume the printer jammed or something. Or, perhaps, they have taken a step back and realized that waging a public war like this does nothing to materially advance their client’s interests and only serves to ratchet-up his legal fees, unnecessarily burn bridges and, ultimately, cause people to think less of them and their overall strategy.

Hahaha, nah. It’s probably a printer jam.

  1. fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    I would love to see evidence from both sides, I don’t believe anything
    Commissioner Bud- the used car salesman has to say.

    • billybawl - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      You don’t have to believe Bud — and neither does the arbitrator. Bud didn’t testify.

      • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM

        really, wow thanks for letting me know.

      • nudeman - Nov 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM

        Not only did Selig not testify, he’s not the one under investigation here
        So you can blame him all you want and subscribe to A-Roid’s conspiracy theories too, but he and his lawyer Tacopina are putting on a clinic of how NOT to handle a high profile case like this.

        Right up there with Pete Rose in the crisis management rankings.

        BTW, does anyone remember that Tacopina was also Jordan van Der Sloot’s atty at one point? Handled it the same way: Lots of bluster, threats, finger pointing, ridiculous denials and accusations.

        Sound familiar?

    • ilovegspot - Nov 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      Is anyone surprised that they pussed out on releasing the evidence about aroid’s prolific drug use?
      Fanofevil is a paid ariod minion. Wen he isn’t protesting outisde the hearing he is here spewing garbage. Aroid is done.

      • tmarlin1221 - Nov 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        What’s comical is that he has the nads to say they have evidence to submit. The liar already stated that he cheated in the past. Just shut up and take your punishment…

      • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        go play with your gspot lady!

    • rcj22001 - Nov 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM

      Did I miss the part where Bud Selig was accused of taking PED’s and is on trial?

    • tmarlin1221 - Nov 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM

      What’s funny is aroid says they are trying to tarnish his legacy. Uhh, hey stupid, you admitting that you were a cheater when you hit so many home runs already did that. A lifetime ban from the game and hof should come soon.

  2. chill1184 - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Its going to be glorious on how ugly this is going to get

    • 8man - Nov 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM

      Yeah. This is sickly absurd theater. You have three parties that could all suffer greatly: MLB, ARod and the Yankees.

      Two of them, I’m not so much a fan of.

    • gloccamorra - Nov 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      Yes, but when all the dust settles, Bud Selig’s legacy will be assured.

  3. proudlycanadian - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Why would the lawyers take a step that does not result in higher legal fees?

    • glenuendo - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      That is exactly my thought. That lawyer is gonna do whatever he can to ratch up those billable hours.

  4. tfbuckfutter - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    So….they lied?

    • historiophiliac - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      Next week they are going to come up with a bogus reason (protecting someone’s privacy or some crap like that) why they can’t release the documents after all.

    • 4d3fect - Nov 22, 2013 at 2:20 PM

      No, they were just..you know.. sick that day.

  5. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    I’m going to get really fat from all this popcorn and butter I keep having to make.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM

      There is probably a clinic in Florida that can help you get in shape quickly

  6. fenway9999 - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    HAHA. Of course they did. AROD’S lawyers are the only smart ones involved. They keep the sensationalism going in the public so AROD will keep fighting and he will have to keep paying them. His lawyers are the only ones who will come as winners in all of this.

    • bfunk1978 - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM

      It’s not an acronym. It’s not, like, Alex Rodriguez On Drugs.

      Although I guess it is, in a way. Never mind, carry on!

    • dutchbrowncoat - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      no, it is probably in A-Rod’s best interests too. even if his chances of success are small, the extra legal fees are going to be worth it compared to what he could stand to lose if he is not able to clear his name.

      • ilovegspot - Nov 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

        He can’t clear his name.

      • dutchbrowncoat - Nov 22, 2013 at 3:12 PM

        don’t be dense, his name is obviously going to be tied to steroids for a long time. but he still has minimizing that damage by talking himself out of or reducing his suspension.

        purely in salary he stands to lose over 35 million if this suspension is upheld, nevermind potential losses of endorsements and guest appearances. a couple hundred thousand to his lawyers to drag this out is totally worth it compared to what he stands to lose.

      • ilovegspot - Nov 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM

        duschebrowncoat all I am saying is that aroid is guilty and anyone with half a brain understands that.

      • gloccamorra - Nov 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

        No, ilovegspot, Arod is pure, unsullied and totally innocent until the arbitrator reduces his suspension to the 50 games called for in the drug agreement for a first time offense. Then he’s just a little smudgy. That’s our all-American legal-schmegal contract system at work.

  7. sdelmonte - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    I would compare this with the endless threats by McCarthy to name Communists in the State Department, but this is sort of the opposite, since there is just one name and his lawyers trying to prove he’s not a Communist. Or something like that.

    • historiophiliac - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM

      Have we no decency, Sir? At long last, have we no decency?

  8. doctornature - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    It takes time to get all the lies in order. Nobody can remember all their lies unless they write them down, and I doubt Arod can even write, as dumb as he looks and acts.

  9. myhawks1976 - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    fanofevilempire,

    and yet, for months you have posted on here support and belief of Alex. this is why you have NO credibility. if Bud Selig was “sick” and unable to make a deposition with ARods attorneys and then put on an academy award winning Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman performance before storming out of HIS damn arbitration hearing you would be running up and down the street yelling “see, see, see…. I told you all. he’s hiding. he has NOTHING!”

    But Alex pulls these blatantly pathetic publicity stunts aimed at avoiding questioning and you still attack BUD?

    hop off the jock son… ice up.

    • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      I have no belief in anyone involved, they are all liars because money is involved and they will do
      anything for the all mighty dollar just like Bud did with Sosa and McGuire and Bonds and then he sold his ball park and the Brewers for a few hundred million.
      I haven’t seen any evidence that Alex did anything they have accused him of doing and let me remind you there is NO failed test.

      you better hop off Buds jock bro, before you get hit with the sheet he is dropping.

      • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM

        by the way son, how is it the only A-Rods name is released out of 100.
        you better start forming your own opinions and have some evidence to back it up.

      • vanmorrissey - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        Right, like Lance Armstrong never failed a test either, nor Ryan Braun, technically. “I haven’t seen any evidence that Alex did anything they have accused him” sure, then why did he admit in the Couric interview he did in fact take them. Get off his jock is right.

      • tmarlin1221 - Nov 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM

        what I don’t understand is why the yankees don’t just terminate his contract, and say he is ruining the yankee brand (which he clearly is, I don’t see Jeter cheating).

    • ilovegspot - Nov 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

      It was the players union the resisted the testing program and still fights having longer or permanant bans. fanofevil is a paid ariod minion.

      • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        vanmorrissey, get you argument straight Biogenis has nothing to do with what he previously admitted to previously.
        van, you should be ashamed of yourself, riding that old man Seligs jock so hard, you
        could kill that old fool.

  10. proudlycanadian - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    They will probably claim that MLB used illegal means (including paying for documents) to obtain their evidence against A-Rod and that that evidence would be tossed in a court of law. On the other hand, the arbitration hearing is a civil matter and not a court of law, so the rules of evidence that apply in a courtroom do not apply. Even though MLB does not have to power to subpoena anyone, they have the right to collect evidence by other means.

    • mornelithe - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      How is paying for evidence illegal? It’s not the Government, or an actual case in front of a court of law (yet), where you can simply subpoena the evidence and hold the person in contempt or obstruction until they hand over the evidence. It’s a private company, performing a private arbitration.

      Even still, under the Silver Platter doctrine, State Officials were able to gather evidence, while violating an individuals 4th amendment rights, but the evidence was then deemed admissible when the State Officials gave the evidence to Federal Authorities, and since the Feds weren’t involved in the improprieties, the evidence was legit.

      So, while it remains to be seen how this would unfold at the federal level, it doesn’t appear that paying for evidence is illegal. Then again, when this does go to court, MLB could very well subpoena Florida Feds to release/divulge the evidence they received/took from the other biogenesis fellow.

      The issue I have here is you have two different cases, both of which absolutely need those documents. Why isn’t there a policy in place for evidence sharing when you have a situation like this?

      • mornelithe - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM

        Sorry I meant to add to this paragraph:

        “Even still, under the Silver Platter doctrine, State Officials were able to gather evidence, while violating an individuals 4th amendment rights, but the evidence was then deemed admissible when the State Officials gave the evidence to Federal Authorities, and since the Feds weren’t involved in the improprieties, the evidence was legit.”

        Since MLB wasn’t involved in Jones acquisition of the evidence, they were not part of the illegal behavior that Jones may or may not have partaken in, to get said evidence. Therefore, one would assume that under the Silver Platter doctrine, this evidence would be deemed admissible in a court of law (which Arbitration is not). Which may have ramifications in the civil suit.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM

        Not quite the same thing.

        1. MLB and Federal Prosecutors are rather different entities to be receiving stolen goods. MLB is a private entity so the same rules do not apply.

        2. MLB wasn’t handed the evidence on a proverbial Silver Platter: they sought it out and purchased it.

        3. Additionally, there is a criminal investigation going on in this matter. MLB acquiring the documents they did may amount to obstruction, maiking MLB the Will Middlebrooks of this process if that gives the game to ARod

      • mornelithe - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        1. I know MLB isn’t the Feds, however, it presents a precedent where one can obtain stolen evidence, and present it validly. You don’t think MLB’s lawyers will argue this point?

        2. True enough, but MLB not being involved in the original act that got Jones the evidence, doesn’t make them complicit in the act, and therefore under the Silver Platter doctrine, could be argued that the evidence is admissible.

        3. This will need some kind of judicial ruling, because let’s face it, the Court of Law, moves much, much, much slower than an MLB arbitration case (surprising, I know). So, is it fair that the US Government gets to hold a ton of pertinent information (for years and years) in a case that’s literally doing nothing, and going nowhere, while Rodriguez gets to walk on a technicality? No, absolutely not.

        There are serious financial concerns here for MLB, Alex Rodriguez, and the Yankee’s org, and since arbitration takes far, far less time than a Federal Lawsuit, it seems that the arbitration should take precedent, as long as the evidence is then given to the Florida Authorities afterwards. Either way, this will be looked at in the courts eventually.

    • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      and baseball paid a convicted criminal $150,000.00 in a brown bag under the table, because everyone does that right.
      that is Buds legacy.

      • mornelithe - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM

        Has nothing to do with anything, really. The evidence they paid for wasn’t testimony from Jones, it was hard evidence that Jones obtained. Where he got the evidence, is irrelevant, as long as MLB wasn’t complicit any illegal activities that Jones may or may not have performed, in order to get said evidence.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM

        I think you are wrong there. Posession/purchasing of goods known to be stolen is a crime for private individuals/corporations

      • mornelithe - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        Has it been proven they were stolen? Or are we just going by what Fischer claimed? Fischer was bound by authorities not to sell the evidence, however, Fischer and Jones have a connection and the theory is, Fischer gave the evidence to Jones, so that Fischer could get a slice of the money MLB was paying for the evidence.

        And if the evidence was stolen, why hasn’t Fischer filed a lawsuit against Jones? And I’m really not finding any precedent in law where it states that you can’t have stolen evidence in your possession in a case, IF you weren’t involved in the theft. Under normal circumstances you’re absolutely correct, possessing stolen goods is illegal (pawn stores et al), but in the realm of evidence, I’m not seeing where this is illegal.

      • fanofevilempire - Nov 22, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        Hey Mornelithe, “has nothing to do with anything”

        WELL I GUESS THAT MAKES IT FINAL.

      • mornelithe - Nov 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM

        No, it’s simply a point of fact. You can question Jones/Bosch/Fischer’s verbal testimony all you like, and any good lawyer would do just that. But, hard evidence in this particular case, isn’t tainted by the intermediary. As long as MLB doesn’t have Jones testify against A-Rod, and just lets the Biogenesis records/emails/texts etc… speak for themselves…yeah, good luck questioning that material. The only real stance they could take is that it lacks context.

  11. ptfu - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Definitely a printer jam, thanks to this exclusive behind-the-scenes footage of A-Rod’s legal team.

  12. chip56 - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Tacopina has said time and again that he wants to make the information public and MLB has always responded the same way, “Go right ahead, we would be just as happy to make the information we have on Alex public” at which point Team Alex shrivels like they just got out of a pool in the dead of winter.

    Like I said yesterday, MLB could not care less about Alex’s side releasing their “evidence” because MLB isn’t out to win a popularity contest. And even if they were, once confidentiality is gone and they can produce everything that they’ve discovered about Alex my guess is that they’re fairly confident that even the few people who are supporting him are going to say “what the hell dude” and walk away.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM

      Then why did MLB get an injunction preventing Tacopina from holding a press conference?

      • chip56 - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        Because Tacopina bathering on about the system doesn’t enable MLB to put the evidence against Alex out for public consumption.

  13. beearl - Nov 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Even though A-Rod’s team hasn’t shown a ton of respect for the MLBPA, they most likely delayed the release of the documents because of Michael Weiner’s passing.

  14. pisano - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    If you put a 45 cal. pistol to Arod’s head and told him the truth or I’ll pull the trigger, he’d say fire.

  15. DelawarePhilliesFan - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    My guess? Despite the best efforts to search and destroy embarrassing/incriminating docs, the final “Everything” draft still contained something very damaging, and they realized it will take a more through review before it can be released

    But don’t worry. It will contain everything

  16. hammerhead5573 - Nov 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Of course they delayed the release of nothing. Their client just made an arse out if all of them

  17. honkerdawg - Nov 22, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Only good thing to come out of this is That ARod is hopefully gone from MLB for good, I mean who wants this guy on their team?

  18. sportsfan69 - Nov 22, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    The parties meet to discuss the ruling.

    The ruling didn’t go well.

  19. peeeye2005 - Nov 23, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    A Fraud is not going to release any information, In doing so he would be breaking the confidentiality of the process, and the Yankees could end his contract for those violations and the union would have no choice but to back them up because they are the ones who made the rules to begin with. A- Hole is just running his mouth. and MLB is just sitting back watching as A-Hole destroys himself with his big mouth. all Talk No action He will never play again

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