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Robinson Cano recently asked for $250-260 million over nine years from the Yankees

Nov 30, 2013, 9:29 PM EDT

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Robinson Cano says he never asked for the ten-year, $300 million-plus deal that was widely reported (and never discredited) weeks ago. According to Ken Davidoff of the New York Post, however, he did ask for $250-260 million over nine years:

Cano’s most recent offer to the Yankees, in a meeting last week, was a nine-year contract for between $250 and $260 million, the source said. The Yankees have countered with a seven-year deal for between $160 million and $175 million, a figure that would put Cano among the top five or six compensated position players in the game.

A second source said Cano’s representation, led by Jay Z and Brodie Van Wagenen, hasn’t asked anyone for the now infamous 10-year, $310-million package — or anything starting with a “3” — since he became a free agent. The request for those years and dollars came in May, attached with the premium of Cano foregoing his free agency, and the player and team shut down talks shortly after that. So those terms haven’t been relevant for six months.

The deal Cano is denying having asked for and the one reported by Davidoff aren’t all that different. They vary by an average annual value of about $1-2 million and, of course, the more recent one is a year shorter, but both are largely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. Cano recently said he is willing to take negotiations into January, if necessary. The Yankees aren’t likely to wait around with other needs to be addressed, Davidoff writes.

  1. rollinghighwayblues - Nov 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Yeah…about that…

  2. uyf1950 - Nov 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    If the reports are to be believed the Yankees of 7 years/$160MM and Cano’s counter of 9 years/$260MM are still leave a substantial gap. I don’t see anyway Cano gets even close to 9 years or $260MM. I can’t see any team including the Yankees exceeding 8 years for someone who is 31 years old. As for the total dollars I still believe $180MM is the max the Yankees will go.

    I’ll say it one more time the Yankees need to put their bast and final offer on the table with a deadline of say the start of the Winter Meetings on Dec. 9th. If Cano doesn’t accept it move on and sign Infante. They might want to consider signing Infante anyway to put the pressure on Cano to sign for even less then 8 years $180MM. Infante can always play 3rd when A-Rod gets suspended.

    • dan1111 - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:32 AM

      I agree. Cano is actually the kind of player whom I could see getting an insane contract like that in the right conditions, but he has not become a free agent at the right moment.

      The biggest problem for him is, there is no other team that looks likely to push the bidding high. The Dodgers were the most likely candidate, and they just signed a second baseman. Other big spending teams are rebuilding or suffering under previous big contracts.

      The second problem, is the Yankees look especially unlikely to give out a large contract right now. They are really regretting the A-Rod deal, and likely Sabathia’s as well. And they have quite a few needs, so they won’t want to break the bank on one player.

    • mmeyer3387 - Dec 1, 2013 at 5:26 PM

      Cano is a very good around player. One the best in game. Yet even through he has good lifetime stats, his age dictates that he is only worth a 4 year deal for a top end contract.The vast amount of passed great players started to decline when they were in their late 30’s, Baseball history is full of examples that prove that Cano isn’t worth more than 4 to 5 years Just look at the recent examples of age decline. A-Rod, Pujols, Hamiton and Jetter,just to name a few. This is a historic trend, all the players mentioned were viewed as great players that were worth every bit of their long term contracts. One day, teams will get smart and stop giving long contracts that take players into their late 30’s or early 40’s.

  3. sfm073 - Nov 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    This time of the year I assume all reports are wrong. It’s too easy for anyone to get on twitter and make some bs report.

  4. stephenolszewski - Nov 30, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    “I never asked for a $300 million dollar contract…I just asked for around $300 million”

  5. cackalackyank - Nov 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    This is still @ 28-29 million a year he’s asking for. November Foxtrot Whiskey.

    • American of African Descent - Dec 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM

      It is a lot of money. At the same time, Cano is the best player on that team — if I’m him, I’m insulted (to the point of playing elsewhere for less money) if I don’t get the highest AAV contract. He’s worth a lot more than Texiera and should be paid accordingly.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM

        Actually I’m not sure that’s an accurate statement. Look at Teixeira’s stats for the years leading up to the 2009 pre season when the Yankees signed Tex to an 8 year $180MM contract. They are for the most part every bit as good as Cano’s. Don’t forget that Tex was only going to turn 29 in his first year with the Yankees.in 2009. Cano will be 31 at the start of the 2014 season and 32 in Oct. 2014 a full 2 1/2 years older then Tex and Cano plays a position that players generally do do NOT age well in.

        If anything Tex’s contract should be a warning sign to the Yankees about giving out something even close to 7 or 8 years to a 31 year old player. That’s just my opinion.

  6. blackhercules718 - Nov 30, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    What about trading for Brandon Phillips and letting Cano walk? But who are the Yankees bidding against?

    • paperlions - Dec 1, 2013 at 10:51 AM

      The problem with respect to that is that Brandon Phillips isn’t particularly good. His defense is still very good, but he is an average hitter at best now, will be 33 next year, and is showing his age.

      • voidhelix - Dec 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM

        Nonsense. Cano`s hit in the most hitter friendly confines in the MLB for a player of his type. His numbers are environmentally based. Just like Jeters. But you Yankees fans never see logic. Phillips at $50M over 4`s a million times better value than Cano at $180M.

      • paperlions - Dec 1, 2013 at 11:40 AM

        First, I am no Yankee fan.

        Second, Cano has a career 126 wRC+, which is league an park adjusted and scaled so that 100 = average, and his wRC+ has been over 140 over the last 4 years with no sign of decline thus far.

        Third, Phillips plays in one of the most hitter friendly parks not in the mountains or desert. His career wRC+ is 96 and he has been declining badly for 2 years.

        Do you care to actually put data behind your baseless contentions or is there just too much logic there for you to deal with.

      • 18thstreet - Dec 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        The problem is that the Yankees don’t have anything Cincinnati wants. The farm is empty.

      • paperlions - Dec 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

        Mostly, I think Cinci wants to get out from under the rest of the contract.

      • 18thstreet - Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

        Maybe. But fangraphs.com says Philips was worth $13 million last year against a salary of $10 million. He was not overpaid last year.

        He’s due $11M, $12M, $13M, and $14M for the next few years. So he probably won’t be overpaid next year, either. And it’s hard to see what Cincinatti would spend that money on, anyway. Who would be their second baseman?

        The Yankees have one advantage, and it’s a big one: money. They have more of it than any other team. What they don’t have is prospects, and they don’t have a great record of bargain hunting either. Look: when they needed a third baseman for HALF A YEAR (given the status of A-Rod’s injury), they signed Kevin Youkilis for $12 million. When they needed a left fielder, they traded for Vernon Wells. When they needed another left fielder, they traded for Alfonzo Soriano. All they have is money. And it’s a big thing to have. But to improve their team, they can’t just take on regretable contracts from other teams. All they can do is spend it — overspend it — on the best players.

        If Cano leaves, the Yankees don’t make the playoffs in 2014 and probably 2015. They need him. Cano may be asking for too much. I’ve never believed he was getting $300M. Ever. But the Yankees are going to have to pay a lot of money. They didn’t make the playoffs last year. Their best hitter is a free agent. Their best pitcher (Kuroda) is a free agent. Mariano Rivera is retired. Their number three starter (Pettitte) is retired. Their number five starter (Hughes) was terrible — and yet, their best option! — is gone. They need a second baseman. They need a cleanup hitter.

        The Yankees are really in trouble. They surely know this. And as Red Sox fan, I LOVE the fact that Yankee fans seem to believe that New York will be fine without Cano. Please — run him out of town like the Red Sox have done with their best players for years. It’s a lovely to thing to watch happen.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2013 at 2:36 PM

        18thstreet, I love the way you think the Yankees fortunes revolve around Cano. Yes, he’s an excellent player but baseball never has been a one man show. Perhaps this may come as a surprise to you but Cano has been with the Yankees 9 years with the Yankees making the postseason in 7 of those years and to the best of my knowledge he has never been voted the MVP of any postseason series.

        If one position player had the ability to make a team a dynasty the Red Sox wouldn’t have gone 86 years without a World Series title with players like Ted Williams and Yaz or the Giants would have won several World Series with Barry Bonds.

        The simple truth is NO one player or even 2 players in this day and age with free agency is indispensable especially if signing that player handcuffs a teams ability to sign other players for years to come.

        Just one final comment the Yankees may or may not make the postseason in 2014, in my humble opinion it won’t be because of whatever decision the Yankees make regarding Cano’s free agency signing.

  7. j0esixpack - Nov 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Is that all? And here I was worried he might be unreasonable.

  8. mmeyer3387 - Nov 30, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Cano may very well be one of the top three all-around players. I must also admit that there is a lot to like about him. He has hit over 300 for most of his career and has been very dependable from a defensive and offensive stand point. Clearly he should get a very good contract. However, he is over thirty and will not be an elite player during the last one third of his career. If I were the Yanks, He would a 28 to 32 million for four years.No one is worth a multi-hundred million dollar contract for 9 to 10 years, when players are over 30 years of age, most decline sharply when they are in their late 30’s.

    • dan1111 - Dec 1, 2013 at 5:02 AM

      That would be a good idea, but players and their agents are also aware of the situation and usually wouldn’t sign such a contract.

  9. joestemme - Nov 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    On this one – the negotiating advantage is all with the Yankees.

    Sign a short-term backup 2nd baseman. Then wait ’til all the other viable 2nd basemen are gone. Then say, “Hey, Robinson, here’s our offer – Take it or Leave it”

  10. pisano - Dec 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    The problem here is Cano is serious about his asking price, he 2 to 3 years long on the length of the contract, and 100 mil. off in the $ amount of the contract. I say 6 yrs. @ 160 mil. or take a walk, the Yankees have to quit playing around with him.

  11. tigertigerwoodsyall - Dec 1, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    I might be seeing this situation all wrong, but I actually think this report shows that they may be close to a deal. Cano DID ask for 10 yr at 300. He has come down by a year and is a lot lower on the avg per year salary. When looking at the high numbers on each side – cano wants an average salary of 28.8 over 9 years. The Yankees offered an average of 25 over 7 years. That’s 2 years and 3.8 mil per. The Yankees have made some very dumb contracts before, but they’ve made a lot more smart ones. It seems to me that they can find a way to give Robbie the money he wants via bonuses and find some sort of deal on the 2 yr gap. The yanks don’t want him to walk and Robbie wants to be in the New York market and doesn’t strike me as a team jumper just to get a couple million more. I think he wants to stay. I see this last set of numbers as a huge positive. It’s a negotiation…not Pawn Stars. Neither side is showing their minimum or maximum, yet and they aren’t too far off at this point. Agents always shoot for the moon to start with. If they didn’t, they’d be idiots. It’s possible that Cano stepped in and told them to drop the asking price. Good for Cano, if that’s what happened.

    • dan1111 - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:40 AM

      What we are talking about is at least a $75,000,000 difference between the two sides, and possibly as much as $100,000,000, depending on the numbers that were actually offered. Cano wants somewhere between 40-60% more money than the Yankees are willing to give.

      Of course it is all just part of negotiations, but at this point the difference between the sides is huge.

  12. fearthehoody - Dec 1, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    When will this end? This will lead down a slippery-slope! Once he gets $26 mpy, The next guy will want $30 mpy, and in 15 years, we’ll be talking about the 1st $40 mpy man.

    • dan1111 - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:46 AM

      It is limited by what teams are willing to pay. They aren’t going to pay more just because some other player got more. Right now, salaries keep going up because the game is very healthy and bringing in lots of revenue, but if that reverses, salaries will go back down.

      A-Rod’s 10 year, $275,000,000 contract did not lead to other players being signed for similar amounts–even Pujols, who was arguably worth as much as A-Rod at the time of his new contract. Even A-Rod’s previous huge deal, signed a dozen years ago, has not been matched by anyone other than himself.

    • paperlions - Dec 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

      Slippery slopes rarely manifest when people use them as an argument, they are mostly a fear-mongering device.

      • jimeejohnson - Dec 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

        That’s why FOX fake news sucks!

    • gibbyfan - Dec 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      I think the next guy ios laready here ……………I’m betting Kershaw hits the 30 million mark this year.

  13. tuberippin - Dec 1, 2013 at 2:13 AM

    He can ask all he wants; won’t mean he’ll get it.

  14. peehergriphon - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    He better start his record label if he wants his money working with jayz

  15. youknowwhatsgoodforshoulderpain - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:36 AM

    I think all the crazy spending of the Yankees in the past has gone to Cano’s and JayZ’s heads. This is another good example of why you shouldn’t hand out crazy contracts: it invites crazy behavior from everyone!

  16. uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2013 at 6:46 AM

    By my best calculation if the Yankees are to do what they need to to make the Yankees a championship caliber team again in 2014 they need to keep Cano’s AAV between $20 and $23MM per. If they can do that it should allow them to:
    Re-sign Kuroda or some other FA pitcher for $15MM per
    Sign Tanaka for about $10MM per (not including the posting fee)
    Sign Beltran for $15MM per
    Sign Reynolds or Uribe for about $6MM per OR Infante for about $8 or 9MM per
    Of course this assumes that A-Rod will be suspended for the entire 2014 season freeing up his salary and being able to stay under the $189MM tax threshold.

    There are several other scenarios of course.
    1st and most obvious is A-Rod doesn’t get suspended for the entire season, but only a portion of the 2014 season. Which would force re-thinking who they can sign and for how much.
    2nd the Yankees do NOT re-sign Cano and move on to Plan B for 2nd base which in all likelihood is Infante. In that case the Yankees would have a lot more money to spend along with any money saved from an A-Rod suspension.
    3rd the Yankees sign Beltran and move Ichiro and at least part of his $6.5MM 2014 salary to give them some breathing room in the tax threshold.
    4th the Yankees could wait to sign Tanaka and a middle of the rotation starter to save some money rather than trying and sign both Tanaka and Kuroda.
    5th the Yankees quasi disregard the tax threshold limit sign Infante putting pressure on Cano to re-sign at a lower price then their current reported offer. Combined with a substantial suspension anticipated for A-Rod. This is the biggest calculated risk but probably one that offers the Yankees the greatest upside potential to sign the best FA’s available to get the Yankees back on track for 2014.

    That’s just my opinion.

    • sbmcintosh36 - Dec 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM

      @uyf1950
      You have a lot of good idea’s but I have to say I have ZERO interest in Headley he’s had 1 good year and everyone went insane like he was the next coming, dude is so overrated it’s ridiculous he’s a “ok” hitter and at an age where he is what he is so I’ll pass and not look back.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM

        I would disagree agree with you slightly about Headley, I think it’s important to keep in mind Headley has played his entire career is San Diego a pitchers ballpark with very little supporting cast. He’s a switch hitter with no discernible split issues and can play both 3rd base and the outfield. I wouldn’t trade for him this year but I can see the Yankees making a play for him as a FA in 2015.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 2, 2013 at 1:51 PM

        correction: delete “agree”.

        The comment should start out: I would disagree with you slightly about Headley,…

  17. voidhelix - Dec 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Another factor in regards to Cano`s negotiations is something no-one`s taling about. In Cano`s early years when Melky was around, he never really developed as the Yankees had hoped, he really wasn`t focused. After Melky left and Robinson cut down the party lifestyle, his peformances improved. He gets a nice fast $200M paycheck, who`s to say his focus doesn`t slip again?

    Best hitting 2nd baseman in baseball but at 31 and with injuries certain to come eventually….PASS.

    • 18thstreet - Dec 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM

      As a Red Sox fan, I’m hoping the Yankees take your advise and let Cano leave. Best of luck filling that hole with Omar Infante and the aging body of Carlos Beltran.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        You do realize that Beltran is a year and a half younger than Ortiz and that playing RF in Yankees Stadium and spending some time DH’ing in the American League should benefit him. As for Infante of course he’s not on the same level as Cano now but tell me that 3 years of Infante at 32 years of age and 1/3 the price who can play 3 positions in a pinch on some level isn’t a better option then 9 years or even 8 years of a 31 year old Cano at 3 times the price. Especially if signing Infante allows the Yankees to sign a front line starter this year or someone LIKE Chase Headley or Hanley Ramirez in 2015.

        Also keep in mind as most of the reports have stated the Yankees are serious about signing Beltran and his signing has absolutely no bearing on weather or not the Yankees re-sign Cano.

      • 18thstreet - Dec 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        You do realize that David Ortiz is a better player than David Ortiz, and will probably earn less money next year than Carlos Beltran? And that he’s currently signed for next year, but not for the next three years? And that, at this moment, Beltran’s not actually on the Yankees? And that there are 30 teams in MLB, many of whom can afford Carlos Beltran?

      • uyf1950 - Dec 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM

        18thstreet actually no I didn’t realize “that David Ortiz is a better player than David Ortiz”. But if you meant to say David Ortiz is a better player than Carlos Beltran I didn’t realize that either. See, I don’t consider a one dimensional player who DH’es 98% of the time and almost never picks up a glove to play defense except during interleague play better then an all around player of the caliber of Carlos Beltran. That’s just my opinion.

        As for their salaries if their is a difference in 2014 it will probably be insignificant. After adding Ortiz’s $4MM incentive to his initial $11MM salary both players will pretty much earn about the same in $2014 around $15MM +/-. As for many teams being able to afford Beltran’s estimated yearly salary that’s true but not many will invest both the dollars and years it will take to sign him.

        As for Beltran not actually being a Yankee yet of course I realize that. But since I was only replying to your comment about Infante and Beltran filing the void should Cano sign elsewhere, whether or not he was a Yankee wasn’t really the point.

  18. denny65 - Dec 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Hey, Brendan Ryan can play second base, right? He can’t hit but he does a mean Johnny Carson impression, so there’s that.

    You gotta keep the clubhouse loose.

  19. thepoolshark - Dec 2, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    “Robinson Cano recently asked for $250-260 million over nine years from the Yankees”

    Hey Robbie: So did I! What a co-inky-dink!

    Their counter offer, by email, must have went to my Spam Folder…or, maybe they are just waiting me out to see if I lower my asking price.

    Regardless, I am getting a little worries because I am not getting offers from any other teams….how about YOU? Any luck ?

    Let me know if you have any tips I can use. My Powerball retirement plan has not worked out well.

  20. bfunk1978 - Dec 2, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  21. miedwards - Dec 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Most, not all, players not on PED decline after age 36…that seems to be the magic number. Smart teams will not offer him a contract any longer than 6, maybe 7 years, in length.

    I’d say 6 years at $160MM – $165MM is about right for his position and numbers.

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