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Report: Mariners break off talks with Robinson Cano after Jay Z “overplayed his hand”

Dec 6, 2013, 8:55 AM EDT

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Just when it looked like Robinson Cano was ready to say goodbye to the Yankees and sign a massive long-term contract with the Mariners talks have broken down and Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News reports that “Cano’s chances of landing in Seattle have apparently ended on a sour note.”

According to Feinsand the contract talks “collapsed after Jay Z apparently overplayed his hand in a negotiating session with the Mariners” by asking for a 10-year, $252 million deal following “assurances” that Seattle would do $225 million over nine years. Mariners chief executive officer Howard Lincoln reportedly “exploded” after Jay Z upped the demands mid-meeting.

Cano’s father, Jose Cano, spoke publicly about the situation earlier Thursday, saying that “the Yankees don’t seem to want him” and adding to speculation that the second baseman was ready to leave New York. Yet if Feinsand’s sources are correct the Mariners are no longer an option for Cano, leaving the Yankees as “his lone suitor” despite a significantly lesser offer believed to be in the seven-year, $170 million range.

UPDATE: Cano to the Mariners might not be dead quite yet …

  1. missthedayswhenwedidnthavetologin - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    I’m all for people stepping out of their element, venturing forward and trying new things, but this new profession doesn’t seem to be working out for Jay-Z.

    • karlkolchak - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

      It would be funny as hell if Cano now has to settlle for $50 million less than Seattle’s offer. :)

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

        “settle” for $175MM…oof

      • hansob - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM

        I don’t know…. if there’s an offer on the table for 8 years/$25M a year, and you’ve got a good idea they’d go 9 years/$25M a year, don’t you try to get a little more for your client? One extra year at the same price isn’t that big a counter offer. It’s not like he went right back to 10/300 once he had Lincoln in the same room. Unless there’s more to the story, I think Lincoln overreacted. Maybe Jay Z overplayed his hand in trying to get the Mariners to bid it up a little more, effectively against themselves, but that’s what every agent does.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

        Cano would still laugh all the way to the bank.

      • pinkfloydprism - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

        It would be funny if Lincoln exploded by saying, “Can I get a @$%! you?”

    • sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

      We’ll see what happens with Kevin Durant.

      • Kevin S. - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

        Basketball’s different – teams will just line up and offer KD the max amount. I guess the question is whether KD really wants to stay in OKC and whether Presti thinks he has to shave $1 million/year off the second best player on the planet out of some bizarre principle.

      • jm91rs - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

        Yeah I can’t see any scenario where every team in the NBA doesn’t line up to give Durant the max deal, and that will be bigger if he stays with OKC.

      • raysfan1 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM

        The only way KD ever leaves OKC is if he decides they aren’t trying to win anymore. OKC will give him (and Westbrook) max deals every time they come up for renewal as long as they are still productive. I’d even bet that when he gets toward the end of his career, he will take lesser deals so the team can sign other players similar to Tim Duncan and the Spurs.

      • lmoneyfresh - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM

        I’m sure KD will be chomping at the bit to sign with one of those dumpster fire teams in NY….

      • sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM

        Funny how the teams here have bent over backwards to make one of America’s great basketball towns so undesirable to the players.

    • skids003 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM

      I am totally shocked!!!! Who saw this coming?? I bet no one thought Jay Z would screw up.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM

        HOV screwed up what, he did what any agent would do, ask for more and
        they ” exploded “!
        I bet HOV told Cano he was going to ask for more and he said go for it, no way
        a smart business man like HOV would not have known there was a possibility
        Mariners would ” explode”!
        HOV is a street hustler, don’t fool yourself,he knows wat he is doing and that still
        doesn’t mean he can get a better contract.

      • homelanddefense - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM

        Are we seriously, as adults, going to refer to him as HOV?

      • lmoneyfresh - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

        I bet he refers to beyonce as bey as well.

      • deathmonkey41 - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

        Amen. I refuse to refer to Robert Griffin III as anything other than Robert Griffin III.

    • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:26 AM

      jAZZY now playing with the big boys and way out of his element. This ain’t street or record dealing here. Boras laughing at latest heir to his throne.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:04 AM

        jfk69, have you banked half a billion, because jigga has…..
        i’m a husler baby…………….

    • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      Robbie returns Jay Z watch after Boras sends him a big clock to hang around his neck reminding him what time it is.
      IT IS FLAVOR FLAV TIME !!!

    • pisano - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      He (Jay Z) should have stuck to dealing drugs, that’s what he knows.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:06 AM

        he would brush you off his shoulder!
        you a light weight…..

      • basedrum777 - Dec 6, 2013 at 5:19 PM

        How’s Jay’s junk taste after that comment? He just made more than your family tree has probably made.

    • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:06 AM

      I laugh when I hear that Seattle ownership was miffed that an agent asked for some more money in a negotiation. Then they throw up their hands and walk out or shut it down. This Seattle deal smelled from the beginning.
      If jazzy did his homework he would have known the Yankee and Seattle hierarchy have done many deals and are buds.
      Cashman makes call. I guess they are no other suitors. We will bump it up a touch for a Christmas signing. You OK with that playa.

      • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:11 AM

        hey this opens the door for the Mets. Sandy just waiting on Jazzy’s call…

  2. basedrum777 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    And suddenly the “mystery team” vanishes….

    • karlkolchak - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      Based on their record, I thought the Mariners vanished years ago.

      • basedrum777 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

        Post 2003 I believe…

    • timmmah10 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      I seriously believe that the hand was overplayed because Cano didn’t want to play there in the first place so they were driving up his asking price for other teams. “Well, Seattle offered THIS much…”

      The longer he sticks around, the lower that price tag is going to eventually get…

  3. karlkolchak - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    As a sports agent, Jay-Z seems to be a pretty good rapper.

  4. missthemexpos - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    I am shocked with these developments!

  5. sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Somehow I am not surprised. In the end, this might be to Cano’s benefit as a player, and as public figure who can possibly make the $$$ he wants in endorsements if he becomes the heir to Jeter as reigning NYC superstar. But at the moment, he and Jay-Z look incredibly silly.

    And Cashman looks like he knew that he just needed to wait.

    • tfbuckfutter - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

      I highly doubt Cashman knew how negotiations with Seattle would play out.

      • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

        are you kidding….Seattle and Yankee hierarchy are buds and trading buddies.
        Jay Z and Robbie JUST GOT PLAYED

      • sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

        I didn’t say he knew. He just looks really good today. He seems to have some incredible amount of luck some days.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM

        bye, people just making up dumb sheet now.

      • uwsptke - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        Seattle and Yankee hierarchy are buds and trading buddies

        “What the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for?! He had 30 home runs, over 100 RBIs last year! He’s got a rocket for an arm…. You don’t know what the hell you’re doing!”

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

      silly for asking for more, how was he to know they would have ” exploded “?

  6. acdc363 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    How’s that new agent working out for you Robbie?

  7. Kevin S. - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Keep the base 7-year, $180 million offer (or whatever it actually was), add two vesting options on that require 400 PA in the last season and 950 PA over the previous two but trigger a lower amount (say, $10-15 million each), add PA and awards escalators on those options that could theoretically get the deal up $225 million if Cano somehow maintains his value through his mid-30s, let him save a little face without greatly increasing your downside exposure, and call it a day.

    • sbmcintosh36 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      Maybe Jay should ask Master P for advice,do you think he goes by Shawn,Jigga or Jay Z in the meetings??

      • eshine76 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM

        After this, he sure as hell shouldn’t be going by J Hova. He may be a ‘god of the rap game,’ but he can’t say the same for being an agent.

    • uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM

      @ Kevin S. why? Do any of these players that sign massive deals want to restructure those massive deal down when they are no longer productive? NO. This is a business, I have no objection to an 8th year “mutual option” where either party can choose to not exercise it. But that’s it.

      If Cano truly wants to be a Yankee for his entire career 7 guaranteed years takes a 31 year old there and $170MM +/- makes his “senior years” and the next generation of Cano’s very, very comfortable through their lives.

      • Kevin S. - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:58 AM

        The point of those vesting options is that Cano only gets them if he’s still healthy and moderately productive. If he’s not good anymore, the Yankees find a platoon partner, keep him below the PA threshold, Cano has no complaint (because the short half of the platoon would be an improvement over him at that point) and it’s the same deal they already offered.

  8. tfbuckfutter - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Shoulda hired Master P.

  9. phillysports1 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    All the money SEATTLE were going spend on cano they might as well get few good players all around

  10. sbmcintosh36 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Maybe Jay should ask Master P for advice,do you think he goes by Shawn,Jigga or Jay Z in the meetings??

    • tfbuckfutter - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      I hope it’s Jigga.

      I like the idea of a stuffy rich old white man addressing him as Jigga in negotiations.

      “Mr. Jigga how dare you up your demands at this point in the negotiations!”

      • sbmcintosh36 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM

        HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. sbmcintosh36 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Maybe Jay should ask Master P for advice,do you think he goes by Shawn,Jigga or Jay Z in the meetings??

  12. beelza - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    So Jay-Z went to the Suge Knight School of Conflict Resolution and tried to strong arm the Mariners into a deal. Problem for Jay-Z was that the Seattle Mariners is a professional sports franchise, not Death Row Records. You can take Jay-Z out the ghetto, but not the ghetto out Jay-Z. Clowns.

    • basedrum777 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      How do you know how the negotiations went? Cano has CAA in the negotiations with him not just Hova. Ridiculous that you’d let your clear racial bias taint your comment. Scott Boras has overplayed his hand millions of times, were you on here making Ghetto comments about him too? Loser.

    • sbmcintosh36 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

      Dude seriously why does race have to come into this??? You must be a sox fan trolling

      • beelza - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:35 AM

        ghetto has no race. Nice try though.

    • aceshigh11 - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM

      “Ghetto has no race”

      What a bunch of nonsense…you know EXACTLY what you’re doing, and now you’re acting like an innocent school kid now that someone has called you out on it.

      Lemme guess: you also think Obama was born in Kenya, and you were REALLY offended by the Jeremiah Wright tapes.

  13. hieronymous27 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Oh to be a fly on the wall in a room where a conversation between Cano and Jay-Z is taking place. Mr. Cano has been humiliated by his “agent”. The entire unravelling of the negotiations is beyond damage control. Like it or not, Cano is a Yankee until the team decides it no longer needs a second baseman who miscalculated his value on the open market.

  14. sbmcintosh36 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Why the #$%& did my comment come up 3 times? …Maybe I overplayed my hand as well

    • yahmule - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

      Patience, grasshopper.

  15. wheels579 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Cano isn’t a “superstar.” That is part of the problem. Nobody views him like A-Rod or Pujols in their prime. Attendance and TV ratings dropped when Jeter wasn’t playing despite Cano having another excellent season. If these latest reports are true, I can’t imagine Boras screwing up like that. This entire situation has become quite embarrassing for Cano.

    • basedrum777 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      He has done a lot to get by on talent with no indication of hustle or will to win. He’s manny ramirez without the goofiness that some people loved with Manny.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:26 AM

        Read this, and stop with the “He doesn’t hustle/put in an effort” crap:

        http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390443768804578039051533614108

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      Attendance and TV ratings dropped when Jeter wasn’t playing despite Cano having another excellent season.

      Yeah it was Jeter that caused the attendance drop and not the crap product the Yanks put out on the field. If you are still watching the Yanks because of Jeter, you are missing some far better players on the field.

  16. stoutfiles - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    The funniest thing about this is when he does sign with the Yankees for significantly less than what Seattle offered, he’s going to be angry about it. Angry that he makes 170 mil and still feels vastly underpaid.

    If you all think Cano slacks off now, just wait.

  17. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Do you think Jay Z said out loud “Watch this, I’m gonna try to get him an A-Rod contract to show Boras,” or did he say it only in his head?

  18. lazlosother - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    “Hello, Scott? Yeah, this is Robbie. Look dude I screwed up. Any way we can make this right?… Uh huh, so if I go off on Jay, fire him and publicly humiliate him you can do something with damage control? Cool. Dude, you’re better than the Wolf in Pulp Fiction. Let’s do this. By the way, should I return the watch or should I keep it?

    • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

      Boras response..I am sending you a big clock to hang around your neck like Flavor Flave. So will know what time it is.
      Good Luck
      Robbie

  19. DonKellyBaby - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    If I were Jay Z, all I would do is stay at home and “pay dividends” to Beyoncé. Screw being a sports agent.

  20. icanspeel - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Jay-Z is taking the blame, but I am sure Cano knew beforehand the strategy and probably could have said sure 225M is enough, no need to squeeze the Mariners anymore.

  21. xdj511 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Jay-Z must have learned his negotiating tactics from my ex wife. Lucky for the Mariners they could just get up and walk away.

  22. chiadam - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Rocafella y’all!!

    oh wait…

  23. sidelineshot - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    The M’s know that the dude doesn’t want to play for them anyway.
    They just wasted $50K on the private jet gig.

  24. uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    C’est la vie, Robby.

    To quote or more appropriately para-phase Joey from the Shane movie from 1953: Come Back Robby, Seven Years and $175MM is more then enough money for any human being.

  25. jm91rs - Dec 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    My gut says that Cano really doesn’t want to play anywhere else and he’s just shocked that the Yankees won’t overpay him. He and Jay Z decided if they were going to go elsewhere they were going to break the bank to do it and it backfired. There’s still no way he goes to NY unless they significantly raise their offer, but I get the feeling they already spent the money on Ellsbury and McCann.

    • stoutfiles - Dec 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM

      “There’s still no way he goes to NY unless they significantly raise their offer”

      Where else would he go? There was one team willing to pay him, and Cano just showed that he’s all about A-Rod money. He didn’t just scare away the M’s, he scared away every team in baseball.

      If I’m the Yankees I hold steady on the original offer, because there’s no other teams left to bid against.

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