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Robinson Cano signing only bad if the Mariners stop now

Dec 6, 2013, 12:14 PM EDT

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No, there’s very little chance that Robinson Cano will resemble a $24 million player in 2023.

But at least he’s better than that now. In a world in which Jacoby Ellsbury is worth $22 million annually and middle-rotation starters get $10 million-$13 million per year, it’s hardly unreasonable to value Cano as a $30 million player.

Over the last five years, Cano ranks first in the majors in rWAR. He’s never been the game’s best player in that span, but he’s always been excellent and he’s never been hurt. He’s finished 17th, 3rd, 6th, 4th and 5th in the AL MVP balloting the last five seasons. During that span, his worst average is .302, his worst home run total is 25 and he’s never played in fewer than 159 games. In fact, he’s played in 159 games in seven straight seasons.

So, the Mariners are getting as much of a sure thing as there is in baseball, at least for the next few years. Cano will be 31 next season. He’s demonstrated no sign of decline so far, but it will come. The back half of his contract will be ugly. They usually are. But that’s acceptable. At least Cano is strong enough offensively that he should be a decent enough regular in his upper-30s, even if it’s as a first baseman.

What the Mariners can’t do, though, is stop with Cano. Second base wasn’t even a problem area for them. They would have let youngsters Nick Franklin and Dustin Ackley battle for the position if Cano had gone in a different direction. Now those two are trade bait. Packaging one of them with right-hander Taijuan Walker might bring David Price from the Rays.

That’s a high price to pay, though. Better if the Mariners just sign a couple of more key free agents, especially now that their second-round pick is gone anyway. Ideally, they could bring in Shin-Soo Choo, too, though many suspect he’ll go to the Yankees with the money the Bombers were saving for Cano. A starter from the Matt Garza-Ervin Santana-Ubaldo Jimenez trio would make sense. Nelson Cruz is also a likely target. I’m not as taken with him — he’s an overrated hitter and a poor defender — but he would supply some pop. Carlos Beltran, Stephen Drew and Corey Hart would be better targets.

Ideally, the Mariners need two more quality players out of this. Then they could be taken seriously as a 2014 contender. They still wouldn’t be the favorites in the AL West, but it would certainly be enough to get the fans excited again.

  1. stoutfiles - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    “only bad if the Mariners stop now”

    Yes Seattle, mortgage the farm for a couple other players on the decline of their career. That worked out so well for the Angels.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      How would signing a few free agent mortgage the farm?

      • blackandbluedivision - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM

        Overpaying for them. Would do it.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        Isn’t the point of the farm system to make the big club better? Signing a top 5 player does the same. The guys on the farm, so this move doesn’t hurt them any. Sure, the Mariners lose a pick, but who cares about a pick when they now have one of the very best players in the game instead?

        Perhaps this move prevents them from making another move they would otherwise make, but it also takes away a good amount of that need. Another bat and another arm to slot in behind Felix and Iwakuma, plus some development of the kids on the roster and Seattle could be relevant again.

      • drewsylvania - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:36 PM

        He’s referring to trading Walker & Franklin * Ackley.

      • blackandbluedivision - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:04 PM

        @sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

        Ask the Angels, Dodgers, Cubs, Yankees (at times), and Marlins about that.

        I can’t remember the last time a free agent winner won the World Series that same year.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:06 PM

        I can’t remember the last time a free agent winner won the World Series that same year.

        2009, wasn’t that long ago

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:09 PM

        @blackandblue – It was the Yankees in 2009 (Sabathia, Teixeira, Burnett)

        I am not saying the Cano signing makes them favorites to win the WS, but it does not mortgage the farm system in any way. Quite the opposite.

        drewsilvania – if that is what he mean’t I completely agree. Keep Walker and Franklin. They can trade Ackley though. Maybe package him with Smoak and Montero and see what they can get.

      • Reflex - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        Sabathia – I just want to point out that the pick they lose is only a second rounder, the M’s first rounder is protected.

    • mick2014 - Dec 6, 2013 at 6:26 PM

      His numbers are going way down w/o the short porch. He basically sold off his hall of fame stats at Yankee Stadium for $240 where he will be like Beltre & put up ordinary numbers. Bye bye cooperstown!

  2. skids003 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    No one is worth the money these people get.

    • bendover09 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      Then stop watching and talking about baseball if you do not want the money to spread out.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM

      Interesting considering your political views that you are anti-free market economies…

      • 18thstreet - Dec 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM

        He’s opposed to the free market when it involves labor selling its services. Workers are greedy when they get every dime they can. Management is smart when it keeps money away from labor.

  3. uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    No doubt or debate that Cano is one of the top players in baseball. I just wonder why some of the so called experts don’t seem to question how his offensive numbers will translate from the Yankees and Yankee Stadium to the Mariners and Safeco. I can’t help but think they have to take a step back but how much is the question.

    • drewsylvania - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      The raw numbers will take a hit, but that doesn’t mean Cano won’t be just as valuable.

      • 18thstreet - Dec 6, 2013 at 3:27 PM

        photo/1

        Looks fine to me.

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM

      I think baseball is played the same way in Seattle and New York, Cano will have no problem
      Safe-Cano Field.

    • anxovies - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:06 PM

      I agree. His power numbers are going to go down without the friendly RF porch. Also, what kind of protection will he have? Morales has decent power but he has evolved into a .270 hitter. Smoak and Seager have shown marginal power but they are not going to scare anybody with their .238 and .260 BA. Remember that for most of his career Cano had the likes of Jeter, Abreu, Giambi, Matsui, Teixiera, ARod, Granderson, Swisher and Posada hitting in front and behind him. Unless the Mariners can pull in some bangers he is going to lead the league in walks. And when he doesn’t get pitches to hit he tends to take swings at bad pitches. He will still get his hits but don’t look for any Miggy-type years unless the team improves its personnel dramatically.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        Posting this again:
        Career:
        H – .305/.351/.507
        A – .312/.359/.503

        Cano isn’t a product of YSII/YSIII.

    • gatorprof - Dec 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      It isn’t the ball park so much as it is who is protecting him in the line up. I don’t see Cano getting a lot of hittable pitches next year unless Seattle makes a ton of moves.

      Up until last year, he was surrounded by some guys with some serious pop in their bats. Who is there in Seattle? Seager? Smoak?

      Anyway, there is no way that Cano is worth 10 years / 240 M$ based on past or future performance.

      He is a nice player, but no one will easy confuse him with guys like Pujols or ARod performance wise when they signed their mega deals….which were not worth the money.

      Seattle is just repeating the stupidity of the Angels. The Angels will be really happy when then have pay Trout with the albatross of Pujols’ contract.

  4. alang3131982 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Ackley + Walker seems light to me for Price when you look at what Shields brought. Myers was a premium prospect. Walker is by no means the cant miss level that Myers was…

    Price > Shields.

    • spudchukar - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      I think you under value Walker. Maybe the Mariners will have to add a little spice, but I doubt if it will be a significant prospect. Could be Franklin rather than Ackley though.

    • drewsylvania - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:41 PM

      Sure, but Walker is likely a stud.

  5. Caught Looking - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Jay-Z gave the Mariners 99 Problems with this contract.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      but second base ain’t one

    • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM

      Good lord. How many more “”99 Problems” comments am I going to have to see today… It’s not clever or original. Please stop.

      • cofran2004 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:22 PM

        @seattlej

        You are officially no fun. Congrats.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 5:03 PM

        Are you trying to be Jay-Z’s “ain’t one?”

      • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

        @ Cofran

        At what point does a joke get old? The first 50 times? 100? 500? We’ve been hearing this one re-hashed in every Cano story for the last six months…

    • blackandbluedivision - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM

      smh. A contract they offered. People refuse to give Jay-Z any credit.

  6. jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    When I see Cano I think Robbie Alomar
    Seattle good luck

    • jfk69 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM

      Alomar..32 years old and done. Could have been the Mets.

  7. uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    I would have to take exception with this: “In a world in which Jacoby Ellsbury is worth $22 million annually…. it’s hardly unreasonable to value Cano as a $30 million player.”.

    Is Cano really worth nearly $100MM more than Ellsbury. Keeping in mind Cano is a year older than Ellsbury and Cano plays a position the generally players do not age well at.

    If this were the NFL where teams could void contracts looking at a players contract in the vacuum of just the per annum bases is good but in the world of guaranteed contracts that is MLB looking at a players contact that way is very, very misleading..

    • drewsylvania - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      “Is Cano really worth nearly $100MM more than Ellsbury.”

      Yes.

    • tved12 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM

      You’re also not taking into account that 2nd baseman who hit like this don’t exist today. He’s 2.5x the player any other second baseman is worth. When you look at Ellsbury, there are many other outfielders you can get with numbers like his. He’s not head and shoulders above any other center fielder.

  8. ttommytom - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    This is the richest baseball contract ever…in take home pay. Washington has no state income tax and NY taxes at 8.2% for those who make over 2 million a year.

    This guy is an incredibly talented player. I’ve watched him play day in and out for years. Goes back on the ball better than anyone I’ve ever seen and is fluid on anything on the ground. Can hit some too.

    But the Yankees have to draw the line after being beyond stupid with Arod. So, best of luck to a class player and class guy.

    Good luck Mr. Cano, great memories…

    • uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      ttommytom, I think you may have overstated the state income tax savings to Cano. Unless I’m mistaken and I don’t think I am players have to pay the income tax in the state where they play games.

      So for example when the Mariners play 9 games in Anaheim he has to pay the state income tax for that state, etc… So while there is certainly a saving I don’t think it’s as big as you think.

      • steve7921 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:51 PM

        You are correct but 81 games in Seattle as opposed to 81 games in NYC is the significant savings….roughly a million per season.

      • jrobitaille23 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        but also factor in that he plays in AL West and those TX games (HOU and Texas) he won’t have to pay state income tax either. Also, any games in FL (not sure if there are many but I assume there will be around 5-10. That leaves around 50 games in states with taxes. So it is actually probably the biggest selling point for going to Seattle on top of the higher total dollar amount.

      • jrobitaille23 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM

        I did the math and he will play 26 games in states with no income tax (on the road). That means 55 games in states with tax. To try and break it down:

        240 million total
        24 million a year
        12 million on the road
        (148,150 per game)
        that’ a little less than 4 million not taxable by state
        NY has 8% income tax so that is a $320,000 saving per season. Or, $3,200,000 for the life of the contract just on away games. Add that to the $9,600,000 for the difference in home game taxation and you are looking at $13,000,000 difference between playing for the Yankees and Mariners. So NY would have to have offered $253 million to be even. The fact that they were in the $190 range means Cano actually nets close to $63 million more from this deal. That is quite a drastic difference and I can see why he’d want to be THE guy in a new city and make that kind of coin

      • uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:29 PM

        @jrobitaille, since you to enjoy calculations.

        How about very good possibility that had he remained with the Yankees he would have shared in a portion of playoff money usually anywhere from $100K to $300 per season. Now I not so naive to assume the Yankees would win the World Series ever year. But I think we all would agree that Cano sharing in postseason money and a pretty good chunk of it over the life of the contract had he stay in NY compared to what Seattle might make would be substantial.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      This is the richest baseball contract ever…in take home pay.

      Arod signed a 10/$252M contract with TX that doesn’t have a state income tax.

      • pftfan - Dec 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM

        Also, don’t forget to factor in the 10% agency fee (or more, depending on what Jay Z is doing for Robbie).

      • ttommytom - Dec 31, 2013 at 12:53 PM

        You are correct but he was traded to a State that does. So there is a math calculation to determine which is worth more, if Cano stays put that is. But with inflation, Arod has a good jump on Cano and his contract is probably worth more…

  9. stroger18 - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Great points

  10. spudchukar - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Exactly correct Matthew. The Mariners need to add a bat, perhaps Ibanez,maybe sign Tanaka, and make the deal with the Rays.

    • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      Ibanez isn’t the bat that they need, he’s actually the guy that they need to upgrade. Don’t let the singers fool you, Ibanez was not good last year.

      • spudchukar - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        Perhaps you are correct, and Napoli would certainly be better, but assuming Morales goes elsewhere, then they could use a lefty hitter with pop.

      • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM

        Lefty power does play better at Safeco, but I’d actually say that they could use a right handed bat at this point. Cano, Seager and Miller all hit from the left side.

    • churdus - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM

      Ibanez can’t protect Cano and the Rays deal doesn’t make sense to me.

      • spudchukar - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        Well it makes enough sense to the Rays to send representatives to examine the entire Mariner minor league system.

  11. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Can we see a Cano HR tracker with the Safeco dimensions overlay? Cano can hit bombs sometimes, but I think he is probably a 20HR guy moving from Yankee Stadium to Safeco.

    • skids003 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:10 PM

      I’d like to see that too.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:19 PM

      Career:
      H – .305/.351/.507
      A – .312/.359/.503

      http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2013_2694&type=hitter

      You can’t link the overlay, but that link + selecting Safeco approximates he would have went from 27 HR to 26 HR last year.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        You rock, Church!! And I stand corrected

      • skids003 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM

        Thanks church.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM

        Note it’s approximate b/c it doesn’t take into account weather conditions, for example. So someone from TX going to Safeco could see a huge drop-off b/c of the significantly decreased humidity.

    • tved12 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      I thought about that as well, but I was thinking his average may go up a few points based on the fact he’s going to have a lot more space to work with. That paired with what Church posted below makes me think his numbers could actually be better.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

        Sure, and maybe he will be less inclined to pull without that YS short porch teasing him from 314 feet away.

  12. sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Could it be that, with this and the moves that the A’s made, and the Rangers being generally strong, and the Angels having the best player in the game and a couple of guys who might still have some good years left after all, that the AL West just became really interesting?

    Pity Houston, though.

    • bendover09 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:30 PM

      Pity Houston ? Houston has a better farm league than Angels & Mariners .. if it wasn’t for A’s pitching they would have a subpar farm league as well . Long rub Houston is better than most team , at the moment. Farm system ranks around #10 spot and they continually get good / high picks.. just a matter of time before they turn it around

      • sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM

        Well, pity them next season as the whipping boy for the other teams.

      • tved12 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM

        As a Minnesota native, I’ve heard this same argument for the Royals for years. After so many years of hearing it, they’ll have to prove it to me before I get excited about their “prospects”

  13. tonyz6060chevy - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    All the Mariners need now is for Pete Carrol to coach them!

  14. stackers1 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    No way Cano finishes his career with Seattle. I see him in a trade deadline move in 3 or 4 years. And don’t be surprised if he ends his days with The Yankees. They love to bring back old heros, especially if someone else is paying the majority of his salary.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM

      Rumor is he has a full NTC.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        That’s the reports a full No Trade Clause

      • 18thstreet - Dec 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM

        When you sign for that much money, the no-trade clause is embedded.

      • anxovies - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        After 3 years in Seattle he will be begging the Yankees to take him back.

  15. pastabelly - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    I believe the Mariners are in on Napoli. In any case, the second FA signing will only cost them a 2nd round pick.

    • Reflex - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      Their first round pick is protected anyways. Second signing I believe will move the third round pick to the Yanks…

  16. bigguy54 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Left handed hitters do much better than right handed hitters at Safeco. I don’t think the stats will be that much different for him IF we get some protection for him. We can’t be done now, would be stupid to spend that much money and fill no other holes. We need at least two of’ers and some bull pen help at the least. I wonder if they still go after Morales for DH, will be interesting to see.

    • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      Lineup protection is a myth. As an example just take a look at the lineup that was around Cano last year.

  17. uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Food for thought. Before I comment I want to mention that we are working with a small sample size in the case of the Safeco numbers and also that there are other factors that involved to get the real picture but just at a glace for reference only.

    Cano’s career HR rate at Safeco is 1 HR for every 38 AB’s that’s based on 152 AB’s
    Cano’s career HR rate at the NEW Yankee Stadium is 1 HR for every 19 AB’s that’s based on 1,524 AB’s

    As i said it certainly is a small sample size for Safeco and there are other factors that one needs to consider BUT I don’t think there should be doubt in anyone’s mind that Cano’s offensive production will go down in Seattle. Considering he’s not getting younger.

    • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 1:57 PM

      Safeco’s dimensions also changed prior to last season (along with other stadium changes). So the small sample is even more meaningless.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:09 PM

        Did they change enough so the stadium dimension are on par with Yankee Stadium? Because unless they did and factoring in that he’s getting older not younger it’s hard to escape the fact that his numbers have to drop relative to his performance at Yankees Stadium.

      • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:16 PM

        Sure the numbers will likely drop due to the park factor, but Cano’s previous performance is pretty worthless I predicting what his numbers will look like. Further, it’s not likely to have any impact on his actual value because LH hitters aren’t disproportionately penalized by Safeco (unless something changed with the reconfiguration that we haven’t seen yet).

    • tved12 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM

      See this earlier comment

      churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged – Dec 6, 2013 at 1:19 PM
      Career:
      H – .305/.351/.507
      A – .312/.359/.503

      http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2013_2694&type=hitter

      You can’t link the overlay, but that link + selecting Safeco approximates he would have went from 27 HR to 26 HR last year.

      • seattlej - Dec 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM

        But I’m not sure that this model factors in anything more than distance. I’m no expert, but from my understanding most of Safeco’s effects on fly balls come from other factors like air temperature and humidity levels. So you can’t just take a fly ball that was hit in Yankee stadium and say that it would have traveled the same distance in Safeco.

        #physics

  18. bh0673 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    While Cano’s ability as a player is above average his lack of maturity and leadership will be his undoing in Seattle. On the other side they better get another power bat to hit behind him in the line up or he will get pitched around. Last year for a good portion of the year he wasn’t given anything to hit and it showed in his numbers it wasn’t until the Yankees started getting some of their bats back in their line up that he became the .300 plus hitter he is capable of being. Regardless 10 years for a 31 year old player will end up being a bad investment in the long run. If the Yankees who have the money wouldn’t go all out to keep him did they know something?

    • tved12 - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

      If they win 1 World Series in that time, is it a bad investment?

    • 18thstreet - Dec 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM

      Lack of maturity? And you’re basing this on what, exactly? I mean other than his country of origin.

    • anxovies - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:29 PM

      My point exactly in a comment I made earlier. In his last 4 years as a Yankee he was given an intentional walk between 10 and 16 times. Those figures could easily quadruple in Seattle with no protection. Yankee fans gave him a pass on his lack of leadership and maturity but that was starting to end in 2013. Seattle fans are going to quickly tire of his tendency to loaf on the bases when they see him fail to run out ground balls that get bobbled or when he could have taken an extra base in tight games. The reason that the Yanks traded Melky after the 2009 season was because their close friendship was becoming a problem.

      • sandwiches4ever - Dec 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

        “Easily quadruple”? Ah, no. There have been 8 seasons total since IBBs have been recorded that a player has reached 40+, and that’s split amongst three players: Bonds (5x: 93, 02-04, 07), Pujols (09) and McCovey (2x: 69,70). Even triple is suspect given that’s only been hit 26 times total (and Bonds is TEN of those).

        Simply put, the degree of “pitching around” that happens is greatly exaggerated by many. His non-IBB walk rate may bump a little, but expecting more than 20 IBB is a fool’s errand.

  19. allday420ap - Dec 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    No one, and I mean no one respects the yankees

  20. db1001 - Dec 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Hey its all about inflation, the way things are going with all these crazy contracts 24 million won’t be worth near as much in 2023 as it is now so he may very well be worth 24 million in 2023

  21. dutchman1350 - Dec 6, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    In 4 years he’ll be traded to NY when the Mariners are in financial difficulty due to the large contract. The same large market teams will be the only ones who can absorb his salary and he will only want to go back to NY.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:24 PM

      Again, as of right now the Mariners have two players signed beyond 2014, Hernandez and Cano. Considering the new deal that the league signed with the major networks and the RSN deal the Mariners just signed, they already cover those two without selling a single ticket. This deal isn’t going to hamstring the franchise.

  22. jdillydawg - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    I wish I had the faith in the M’s management that when they didn’t stop and acquired the two other superstars that they “need,” they actually would be contenders.

    I’m telling you, this is a place where mediocrity on the field thrives and is basically rewarded. It’s a well run team from a business perspective (which makes deals like this possible) but they don’t have a winning philosophy like a St. Louis or New York.

    Until that changes, they’ll continue to finish middle of the pack. And that kills me.

  23. deadrabbit79 - Dec 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Couldnt they have gotten Beltran, Choo, and Garza for $240mm total? Or close to it? Just saying……

  24. beastmode5150 - Dec 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Still have 65 million to spend.

  25. luisrivasbuttocks - Dec 6, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    “Only” if. LMAO

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