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Carlos Beltran turned down more money from the D-Backs to sign with the Yankees

Dec 7, 2013, 8:58 AM EDT

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Carlos Beltran has reportedly agreed to a three-year, $45 million contract with the Yankees and word is that he took less money for the opportunity to play in pinstripes.

According to Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic, the Diamondbacks made a “strong, under-the-radar push” to sign Beltran, offering him more than three years and $45 million. We heard on Thursday that the Royals were not the team who made the rumored three-year, $48 million offer, so it’s fair to speculate that it might have come from the Diamondbacks. Still, Beltran ultimately chose the Yankees as the destination to play out the latter days of his career.

The Diamondbacks already have a crowded outfield with Cody Ross, Gerardo Parra, Adam Eaton, A.J. Pollock, but general manager Kevin Towers is on the market for a power bat this winter. Beltran would have fit the bill, but he might now have to go to the trade market to find it.

  1. Old Gator - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    That “grit” theme isn’t doing the Snakes any more good than “family values” did Bush senior in the election against Clinton. And no wonder. Last year, the D-Backs kinda proved that their version of “grit” was more akin to the stuff on the floor of a parakeet’s cage than the quartzite particulata used in sandblasting.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      I suspect that he tried a sample of the grit and spit it out.

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

        I suspect that Beltran and his agent discussed the DH being available with the Yankees and not being possible with the Dbacks.

        With his age and signing for 3 more yrs, it makes much more sense for him and the team that signs him for the DH to at least be in play.

        Maybe not so much this yr, but there are two more yrs after the first yr on this deal.

        Realistically, ANY team that signed him at this point in his career was signing him for his bat, not his defense.

        Being able to have his bat and not have him play the field (at least here and there) is a much better option at this stage of his career.

        The grit, me thinks, had zero to do with this.

  2. popi1956 - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    After all these year Yankees still get a discount on Beltran- to bad he’s. Over rated

  3. chew1985 - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    He’s old. He signed with the Yankees because he’ll eventually be able to DH.

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM

      Yankees have like six guys for the DH spot, I know they will rotate, but still @ some point ALL of these guys will spend time @ DH part/full time.

      A-Rod
      Soriano
      Tex
      McCann
      Jeter
      Ichiro
      Ellsbury
      Gardner

      and there is 5 guys for three outfield spots and the Yankees have no infielder to count on.

      good job Cash!

      • uyf1950 - Dec 7, 2013 at 10:31 AM

        @ fan…, Give Cashman a break the Winter Meetings haven’t even started yet. The Yankees aren’t done yet. Beside the Yankees/Cashman had a lot of holes to fill when 2013 ended. In my opinion Cashman has done a pretty remarkable job filling some of those holes already.

        Let’s step back for a moment. The Yankees have 6 players on the roster for the outfield (not 5) once Beltran’s deal becomes official. At least one probably 2 will be moved/traded or released well before spring training.
        As for infielders the Yankees have plenty of bench players to fill in in the infield, Ryan, Johnson, Nunez and Anna just to name 4. Keep in mind the Yankees could do nothing about 2nd base until Cano got off his butt and came to some decision and that just happened. They also have to hold off to some degree about 3rd base until the arbitrator makes his decision about A-Rod. Now obviously this is just my opinion by I think Cashman and Ownership has done a pretty good job of covering those bases with decent bench/role players for the time being.
        One final position of need is starting pitching. The just re-signed Kuroda which will help but they need another starter. Remember the Yankees as well as a couple of other teams have been anxiously waiting for the posting system to get worked out, let’s see what happens there.
        Spring training is still over 2 months away there is plenty of time for things to sort themselves out and the Yankees to fill their remaining needs. KEEP THE FAITH, as someone once told me their is a reason Cashman does what he does and we sit behind computer screens 2nd guessing the people with all the knowledge.

      • yournuts - Dec 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        Did you ever hear of a trade? Don’t you also remember that Soriano also came up as a second baseman. I’m still hoping to see Choo in pinstripes so we can put a trade together for Brett Anderson and some young good pitching in Oakland. The winter meetings are starting soon. This team now is much better than the one in 2013.

        Cashman has done a great job. No more stupid 10 year contracts. Never again. I like the way the Yankees drew a line in the sand. It says alot about an organization and the committment to the fans. Do you think that Seattle will regret this contract to Cano? The only drew 1.7 million to Seattle last year. Cano is a great ballplayer but now he will become Mr. Irrevelent in Seattle.

        Beltran knows that he will make up the money in endorsements and other activities. Cano didn’t. Robbie will regret his move.

      • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM

        No Yournuts, if you are suggesting Soriano could play second base. No chance. None. Nil. Nada.

      • realitypolice - Dec 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM

        Yankees haters bash the Yanks when their highly paid starters get hurt and they have no depth, and then they bash them when they appear to have more quality out fielders than they need. Make up your mind.

      • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM

        I’ve been trying to make a similar argument. Beltran will often sit when a lefty goes. But that is when you would like to have McCann sit too. If the Yanks want full value from McCann he needs to DH often when he doesn’t catch. Maybe then Jeter could DH, Soriano man LF, and Wells, yes Wells could play right. Tex could also DH versus some lefties too.

        Pretty sure Gardner is dealt. Perhaps Cincinnati, but they may unwisely opt for Hamilton. Ichiro is the question mark. His defense would be missed but it is hard to see him getting a lot of playing time, unless Soriano mans the DH spot, and due to others needing to do that, it is hard to see how he fits in. Maybe a deal back to Seattle. If the Yanks don’t go after Infante, then Franklin might be an option, but he may well be part of a package to acquire Price.

      • anxovies - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

        To be fair to Cashman it’s kind of awkward when you have 5 guys under contract for 3 open infield positions and you don’t know if one of them will be available for opening day or will be suspended for 50 games or if he will even be available next year. Add to that the uncertainty about how your aging HOF SS is going to perform after missing almost all of last season because of injury. Cashman did a pretty good job with the outfield and the catcher positions and signing Kuroda, but the infield and other pitching slots are going to take some time to sort out.

      • anxovies - Dec 7, 2013 at 2:05 PM

        Spud: Beltran won’t sit against LH pitching, he’s a switch hitter whose lifetime batting avg. and HR is pretty much the same from either side. He was .281/.448/.729 against LHP last year.

      • sportsfan18 - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

        Well if the Yanks don’t improve their pitching, they won’t need any infielders. They’d be better off putting all 8 guys in the outfield!

  4. phillysports1 - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Yea , He’s better off on a team that’s has DH

  5. thebadguyswon - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    AL was the best choice at this point.

  6. gbrim - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Signing aging vets to huge contracts is suicide for low revenue teams like the DBacks. The longer they take to adopt a viable model for their revenues, the longer it will take to have some competitive years. They are lucky Beltran turned them down.

  7. plmathfoto - Dec 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Gritty Kirk Gibson doesn’t stand up there with the bat on his shoulder taking strike 3 in the 2006 playoffs like Beltran did, just sayin :)

    • yahmule - Dec 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      Was he on the disabled list?

  8. gibbyfan - Dec 7, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Sure wish he had gone with the snakes…….I’m pretty sure Cards would have gotten a better comp pick………not sure what they will get from the Yanks b/c not sure what they have left to surrender.

    • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM

      I believe you are mistaken. The pick won’t be made by the Yanks.

      • gibbyfan - Dec 7, 2013 at 12:03 PM

        Do you know how that works Spud? I thought the Ynaks lost their first pick with their first signing their second with their second etc…………hope I’m wrong

      • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

        The Cards get their compensation pick. Maybe I misread your comment but I thought you indicated the Yanks would be making the selection.

    • paperlions - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      The Cardinals get the same pick no matter who signed him (the CBA changes the rules on this last year), the only effect of who signs him is which pick is lost by the signing team.

      It would have been better for the Cardinalsif a team that still has with a pick between 11 and 29, so that their 1st round pick would also move up a spot, but this is fine as the Yankees still had a comp pick that was ahead of the Cardinals comp pick. The Yankees now have no pick before the 2nd round as they lost their 1st signing McCann and their comp picks for losing Granderson and Cano for signing Ellsbury and Beltran and they won’t get a comp pick for Kuroda because they resigned him. So the Cards comp pick for Beltran, which was originally slated for the 44th spot has moved up 4 spots just due to the Yankees signings.

      • anxovies - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM

        I feel like I am sitting on the floor of a cartoon house with little stars swirling around my head.

      • gibbyfan - Dec 7, 2013 at 2:48 PM

        Thanks Paper………..For what it’s worth I think this is great for the Cards and really not so great for the Yanks. As I understand it, this will be a very deep draft so just that pick alone could well be worth more than Beltron. For example, the cards got Wacha with the comp pick for Albert—IMO they are far better off with him than they would be with Albert, all things considered.

      • paperlions - Dec 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

        Yeah, early indications are that this is an above average draft. We can’t expect the Cardinals to be so lucky/good year-in and year-out with drafting and player development….but the more bullets you’ve got, the better.

        To me, that is a slightly cray deal to give a guy that is 37, all bat, with negative defensive value (unless his knees magically heal up). The Napoli deal was great by comparison, similar hitter, younger guy, much more defensive value.

      • gibbyfan - Dec 7, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        I know it’s foolish to be over confident but I think Mo has the magic and I won’t be surprised if he does it again. As long as there are teams with big $$ willing to trade draft picks for aging vets, Mo and his staff will continue to produce highly competitive teams. I wish carlos every success but I love how the cards are able to compete with half the budget of some of these teams –

  9. uyf1950 - Dec 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    By my best count after all these signings and agreed to deals, accounting for arbitration and pre-arb payouts and the players to round out the 40 man roster and the benefits and Incentives MLB charges teams the Yankees still have about $12 to $14MM to spend without going over the luxury tax threshold of $189MM. Of course that is conditional on A-Rod being suspended for the ENTIRE 2014 season.

    That $12 to $14MM is one good starter or one mid level starter and one other player who probably can’t exceed about $4MM +/-. Which probably means someone like Reynolds for 3rd base who might earn between $3 and $4MM or bullpen help.

    Of course the Yankees could always try an work a trade Gardner seems the most likely candidate for the Yankees to move also the Yankees might be able to move Ichiro if say they ate half of his $6.5 salary for 2014. Combined those 2 players which certainly are expendable with there being 6 OF’er on the roster now.should give the Yankees about $8MM more to add on to the remaining funds.

    We’ll see at the pace this off season has been moving my guess is the Yankees and Cashman could very well have their Christmas shopping list done and in house in the week or so.

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 7, 2013 at 11:01 AM

      I give you thumbs up on your point, I just like to play good cop/ bad cop sometimes and get the folks going by pointing out things and they get them hot and start coming @ Empire.
      I have no doubt the Yanks will have everything they need when they get to spring training and a few extra parts because you never know with injuries, I actually think the Yankees will probably be alright when they come North and we know they are always willing to take on a few dollars like Ichiro, Soriano last year if need be.

      The only thing I question is that $189 mil, but with the saux winning last year they will
      not let that number hold them back.

    • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      Trying to stay under the luxury tax would be silly for the Yankees, and they cannot fill all their holes, without going over it. In time they can adjust, but in their present situation they cannot put a contending team on the field without surpassing it.

      As stated above, I think the Yankee brass will move Gardner, but probably should try to do the same with Ichiro.

      Besides, I wouldn’t be confident that A-Rod gets suspended for the entire year. The Yanks should be counting on him getting 100 games.

      If the brass could swing a deal for somebody like Headley, then the luxury tax total could be mitigated, but they don’t have a lot of chips that entice, but maybe San Diego would accept players who aren’t Major League ready, cause they have to think future.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        My friend I don’t honestly think the Yankees and by that I mean Hal Steinbrenner are overly concerned at this point about the luxury tax limit. First off if they don’t get there this year which by the way I don’t think they will they always try again next year.

        Second and perhaps more importantly I’m sure the have come to realize that putting an inferior product on the field cost them more in profits then they ever would have had to pay by biting the bullet last year and making quality deals with quality players. I think that have already learned that lesson by their signings so far.

        Third and very close to importance as my previous comment. With the luxury tax threshold at $189MM this year if the Yankees say spend say $210MM that’s only $21MM over the threshold at the 50% tax rate that’s only $10.5MM. If they spent say $200M that’s only $11MM over the threshold and out only cost the Yankees $5.5MM in luxury tax money. That’s chump change to the Yankees and money they would more the recoup by putting a few extra fannies in the seat and few extra hot dogs and beer sold.

        What I’m trying to say is while we all like to make a big deal out of the tax threshold the Yankees have shown us over the last week it really was just a goal and not a mandate. Which is a nice catch phase for we’re going to do what we need to do, period.

      • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        Did you even read my post? Isn’t it almost identical to your comments?

      • uyf1950 - Dec 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM

        @ spudchukar, my apologies if you offense to my comment. I was trying to give specific for the Yankees rational why the Tax Threshold didn’t matter.

      • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM

        I get that but it sounds like an argument to something I agree with you on. No harm, no foul.

    • anxovies - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:43 PM

      The Wells signing looks pretty bad right now but I gotta admit that I thought it was a reasonable gamble when we did it with the Angels covering a big chunk of his salary and his performance the first month of the season.

    • spc7ray - Dec 7, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      Arod will win his case–The Yankees will have to pay ALL of his contract–Who do they have at 3B without AROD

  10. m3dman3 - Dec 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Beltran is smarter than Cano. You have a chance to win a world series and you go to a terrible team like Seattle? Idiot.

    • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM

      It is going to take a lot more than Beltran to make the Yanks a contender. And by not signing Cano the Yanks are in a much better position to fill the needs.

      • m3dman3 - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM

        The Yankees are not nearly done yet and I never believed in that $189 million threshold. They will probably end up $210-$220 million, if not more.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 7, 2013 at 2:32 PM

        My friend I think you greatly exaggerate the Yankees additional needs. Yes they need an additional starting pitcher and if at all possible a starting 2nd basemen (like Infante) a little extra bullpen help would be nice but isn’t critical at this point.
        Don’t be surprised if a Yankees can get something very nice in exchange for Gardner which definite would solve one of those needs,,maybe even a middle of the rotation starter.
        Sure the Yankees lost Cano and Granderson and Pettitte retired. BTW, Granderson only played 61 games for the Yankees last year. But they also are getting back Tex and Jeter and regardless of what anyone thinks they are better then the players the Yankees had last year even if they have lost a step or two. They also benefit from addition by subtraction, Hughes moved on.
        Tell me a 2014 outfield of: Ellsbury/Beltran/Gardner and Soriano for a full year. Isn’t better then what the Yankees marched out there last year for well over 100 games: Gardner/Wells/Ichiro and Almonte until Soriano showed up late in the summer. And of course McCann is infinitely better behind the plate then any combination of Stewart, Cervelli and Romine.
        I don’t mean to minimize the loss of Cano but this years Yankees team even as it stands today is in my opinion considerably better then last years Yankees team that was in the wild card race until the last week of the season and still won 85 games.

        I hope I haven’t bored you but as I like to say that’s just my opinion.

      • spudchukar - Dec 7, 2013 at 2:48 PM

        Again, I don’t know who you are arguing with. I have repeatedly opined the Yanks shouldn’t be concerned with the luxury tax. I have argued vehemently that the Cano move would be a good thing for the Yanks, because they will be able to plug more holes.

        And I have outlined the player/s they need to sign, the first being Beltran, pointing out how well he would translate to the Bronx, with the short porch, smaller outfield, and DH possibilities.

        That does not mean I don’t think the Yanks have a lot of work to do. They have no second or third baseman, they need at least one more quality starter, and at least an innings eater in the #5 spot, and a closer.

        I have also stated twice today, that Gardner is the most likely to go because they have such redundancy in the outfield. Ichiro should go too, but I don’t know what they could get in return.

        So again, my friend, I believe you should be directing your comments to someone who disagrees with you.

    • detectivejimmymcnulty - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

      The common perception is the Yankees offer the better opportunity, but who saw the Red Sox winning it all this season or the Giants before? He’d be an idiot for leaving at least $70 million on the table for the better “chance” of winning. It’s a good deal for him and the Yankees, but will end up bad for Seattle (obviously).

      • anxovies - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:50 PM

        With Cano the Mariners have a good chance of winning the AL West if The Big One hits and California ends up in China, and Mexico attacks and wins back Texas.

  11. paperlions - Dec 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Worth noting that this is the 2nd time in a row that Beltran took less to go to a better team. He did the same when he signed with StL.

  12. stairwayto7 - Dec 7, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Beltran would have seen more Giant and Dodger fans at Chase field that d’crack fans!

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