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The Hall of Fame Veteran’s Committee vote will be announced at 10AM today

Dec 9, 2013, 7:56 AM EDT

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The Hall of Fame will gain a few members later this morning as the Veteran’s Committee will vote on inductions this morning. The official announcement will take place at 10AM.

The nominees:

Dave Concepcion
Bobby Cox
Steve Garvey
Tommy John
Tony La Russa
Billy Martin
Marvin Miller
Dave Parker
Dan Quisenberry
Ted Simmons
George Steinbrenner
Joe Torre

If I were a gambling man I’d put my money on La Russa, Cox and Torre. I’d like to say this is the year Marvin Miller finally gets his due — he has fallen just short a number of times — but there is always some amount of drama and uncertainty surrounding his candidacy. I feel as though people aren’t prepared to induct Steinbrenner yet, but eventually he will make it in. It all depends on how generous the committee is feeling this year. While I, personally, would vote in Quisenberry and Simmons, most of the players would appear to fall just short of what Hall voters tend to prefer and none of them seem like special cases whose popularity among voters outstrips their baseball bonafides.

No matter what happens, after the abject failure exhibited in the past couple of BBWAA elections, it’ll be nice to hear about a couple of folks given Hall of Fame honors later today.

  1. proudlycanadian - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    King George and Billy Goat belong together but not in the Baseball Hall Of Fame.

  2. cowboysoldiertx - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    I would have King George, Torre, Cox, La Russa, Parker and Simmons. Parkers number match up petty well with many other HOFs.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM

      One of those guys was convicted in court and subsequently banned from baseball for a few years.

  3. voteforno6 - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    I’m still trying to understand the rationale behind putting Steinbrenner in the Hall of Fame. What contributions has he made, other than getting suspended, twice?

    • sdelmonte - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:48 AM

      It’s whatever rationale gets owners inducted overall.

      Though I can’t imagine his plaque would read “won eight world titles, restored the Yankees to their place at the top of the sports world, and got kicked out of baseball twice.”

    • Craig Calcaterra - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM

      Steinbrenner was the first owner to take aggressive advantage of free agency after its advent in the mid-70s. Changed the way many owners sought to build teams, broke with the notion of austere groupthink. It’s one of those things that, at the time, seemed kind of obnoxious, but in historical hindsight was significant, I believe.

      • historiophiliac - Dec 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM

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      • paperlions - Dec 9, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        And? He wasn’t a particularly good owner. The more involved he was, the worse they Yankees were. Being an owner for a long time is not particularly not worthy, compared to, say, playing for a long time. To own a team for a long time all you have to do is not sell it and rake in the profits, it takes no special talent worthy of note in the baseball HOF.

        There are already WAY too many owners and former commissioners in the HOF, that baseball succeeded despite the best efforts of many of them is a tribute to the fans of the game and players, not the owners or commissioners.

    • rje49 - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM

      Well, George spent a lot of money to buy some winning teams…. Would that qualify him for the Hall? I didn’t think so.

      • brianfromthecape - Dec 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM

        Everyone BUYS winning teams. One spends a hundred million and another spends two. The both bought rings. One spends his profit on the product on the field and another doesn’t and puts it in the Cayman Islands. Having that much money also causes you to spend foolishly too. It’s not always a blessing. Can’t be that naïve to repeat the same boring narrative.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      Tom Yawkey was an avowed racist who kept a pedophile employed, and was owner of a team that won nothing in 40 years. He’s in the HoF. So why not George?

      • largebill - Dec 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

        So, your argument is basically that since they made a major mistake in the past they are bound by it to make another error now?

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 9, 2013 at 10:39 AM

        No, I’m saying that the bar has been set for owners and George far exceeds it.

  4. largebill - Dec 9, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    The Veterans Committee has changed a couple times in recent years. What is the process for the current version. Who votes and what limits are there on how many they can induct?

    Separately, no on Steinbrenner and Miller. How do they put in Hall of Fame guy who was suspended for life? His past actions have been largely forgotten, but should be considered as part of the total package. As far as the second guy, he was just some labor lawyer and really had nothing to do with the game. The silly campaign to elect him to the Hall of Fame is mystifying.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      he was just some labor lawyer and really had nothing to do with the game. The silly campaign to elect him to the Hall of Fame is mystifying.

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  5. wpjohnson - Dec 9, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    You call it “abject failure”. I call it true respect for the Hall. There are far too many merely good players in there already. Quisenberry? Simmons? Morris? None of the three deserve serious consideration. It can’t be done but I would suggest that, instead of inflating the Hall, three who don’t actually belong there be removed each year. Such a process could well cover at least fifteen or twenty years.

    • largebill - Dec 9, 2013 at 9:42 AM

      While I may disagree with a few of the past selections, it would be far worse to remove anyone from the Hall of Fame. It is not an honor that can be later revoked.

    • brianfromthecape - Dec 9, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      Some HOF’ers are all-time great players but that doesn’t mean that everyone needs to be that great to be in. There are different levels of greatness and not only the greatest of the great should be busted.

  6. Old Gator - Dec 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Until Buck Johnson is voted into the hall, the Veteran’s Committee can kiss my ass.

  7. yahmule - Dec 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    I would induct Ted Simmons and in lieu of Tommy John, I would enshrine Dr Frank Jobe. I’m not opposed to Miller’s induction.

    I can’t think of anybody less deserving of induction than George Steinbrenner. I think it’s grotesque that he’s even being considered.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 9, 2013 at 10:39 AM

      I can’t think of anybody less deserving of induction than George Steinbrenner. I think it’s grotesque that he’s even being considered.

      Why?

      • yahmule - Dec 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM

        Seconds after buying the team he tampered by trying to hire a manager (Dick Williams) that was already under contract.

        20 managers in 23 seasons, including violent alcoholic Billy Martin five times.

        Convicted liar. Illegal contributions to that asshole Nixon. Pardoned by Reagan, as even bigger asshole.

        The stupid facial hair ban.

        Howie freaking Spira.

        Continuous meddling that probably cost his teams championships until he finally backed off and let his baseball people surf a tidal wave of money in the 90s.

        Making up stories about getting into fistfights with rival team’s fans (Los Angeles 1978) and not backing off the story when it’s proven to be total fabricated bullcrap.

        Being a big ugly blustering bully and bringing his asshole football mentality to MLB.

        Getting bored now. Screw that guy.

  8. ottopilot85 - Dec 9, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Who edited this headline and article? It wasn’t the Veterans Committee that did this vote, it was the Expansion Era Committee. That being said, I agree with the Committee’s selections.

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