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Tea Partiers to file a lawsuit to block the Braves move to Cobb County within ten days

Dec 11, 2013, 2:00 PM EST

Cobb County

WSB News in Atlanta has learned that a group called the Atlanta Tea Party Patriots are going to sue the Cobb County Commission within ten days in an effort to block the expenditure of taxpayer dollars for the Braves new ballpark. The idea, the Tea Party Patriots, say, is that it’s illegal for public money to go into a private enterprise in the way Cobb County is doing it.

Eh. To the extent that there are all kinds of fun rules and laws that dictate how public dollars can be spent, I won’t say that there’s nothing at all to this lawsuit. There’s a good chance that some “i” wasn’t dotted and some “t” wasn’t crossed when the commission vote happened a few weeks back. Maybe this lasts a while in some annoying way.

But the idea that it will actually stop or even delay the Braves move to Cobb County is pretty unlikely. Procedure is one thing and it’s one thing that can be remedied, especially as early on as this project is. But it is not illegal for governments to spend money for ballparks. Even if it is dumb. My guess is that this goes pretty much nowhere in the long run.

  1. El Bravo - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Go Tea Party? [mind explodes]

    • Ben - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM

      The corporate subsidies thing is basically the most painful part of being a Democrat these days. That and the untrammeled surveillance state thing.

      • El Bravo - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

        True, although “the untrammeled surveillance state thing” is not by any means a poltical party thing. It is sadly just the way it is in good ol Merica.

      • Ben - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

        Yeah, that’s true. Ryan Lizza’s upcoming New Yorker piece is a must-read in that regard.

        http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/12/16/131216fa_fact_lizza?mbid=social_retweet

      • El Bravo - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

        Now you’ve really done it…linking the New Yorker to this site! Top hats and monacles! Solid writing! Journalistic integrity! Malcolm Gladwellian! You better watch your back!

      • Ben - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM

        Ugh, Malcolm Gladwell is the worst. I hate that what passes for public intellectual life in America now is TED talks and Malcolm Gladwell.

      • DJ MC - Dec 11, 2013 at 10:06 PM

        I’m guessing untrammeled surveillance has something to do with watching the Hall of Fame voting?

    • sdelmonte - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM

      Yes and no? Even when I agree with them, I find their approach to politics unfathomable.

    • moogro - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

      You can put lipstick on a pig, because even a blind pig will find an acorn once in a while.

      • hittfamily - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

        What do you call lipstick on a pig?
        A hockey mom…or something like that.

      • DJ MC - Dec 11, 2013 at 10:07 PM

        …and then the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

    • karlkolchak - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM

      Not to be political, but that was exactly my thought.

  2. hittfamily - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    I haven’t read the lawsuit, but 20 bucks says it contains the words “tyranny”, “patriot”, “fascism”, and “liberty” in it. Oh, and it was delivered by 20 old white guys dressed up in a Beethoven costume.

    • aceshigh11 - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      I bet the words “Benghazi” and “Hussein” will be in there for good measure too.

      And probably an extremely outdated reference to Ted Turner’s ex, Hanoi Jane, who they still think should have been executed for treason.

      • barrywhererufrom - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM

        let’s see you just referenced murders of 4 American’s that were blamed on a video by this adminstration. I see that doesn’t bother you and of course if that didn’t why would someone who betrayed her country and who was complicit in the torture of Americans when she visited a prison of war camp the Hanoi Hllton in Vietnam. Pal you are a libtard of the highest order!

      • aceshigh11 - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        What an eloquent rebuttal. I can see you have the typical Tea Partier’s grasp of spelling, grammar and logic.

        Indicate specifically where I said it didn’t bother me.

        I’m just not so bloated with hatred for “Barry” that I’m willing to exploit a terrorist attack in an effort to impeach the President.

        And I can tell that four is a hell of a lot less than 3,000 dead on 9/11 and 4,000 dead in Iraq, but you didn’t care back then because the President had an (R) by his name.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        let’s see you just referenced murders of 4 American’s that were blamed on a video by this adminstration. I see that doesn’t bother you

        What does it matter why the administration thought the attack occurred? If we are getting so up in arms over the reasons behind something, where does the line form for lying to the UN about Iraq and the thousands of innocent deaths that occurred from that war start?

      • aceshigh11 - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

        Well, it DOES matter, and there should be a full accounting of what went wrong and why, but believing that the GOP is operating in good faith on this matter is laughable.

        Issa and Co. are just looking for ANY excuse to begin impeachment hearings against the President and, ironically, they’re making it MORE likely that the full facts aren’t uncovered with their perpetually clownish attempts to politicize a tragic event.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:44 PM

        BarryBondsIsFromRiverside calling folks Morons.

        Really, buddy, let that sink in.

        YOU calling other people Idiots.

        Because, y’know, if Barry Bonds was really born in Riverside, it was Riverside, Kenya.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:49 PM

        Well, it DOES matter, and there should be a full accounting of what went wrong and why, but believing that the GOP is operating in good faith on this matter is laughable.

        You’re conflating two different things. What does it matter why the administration thought the siege happened, and what the actual reasoning behind it was. The latter matters, not the former. Never mind that the administration walked back that excuse within, what, a day or two?

        People died in an unfortunate incident. The people responsible for it should be blamed. Why a specific group of people are so focused on what some people thought the reason behind the attack was is beyond me.

      • aceshigh11 - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM

        No, I agree with you…I’m just saying that there needs to be a full accounting of what happened.

        Of course, that goes without saying because EVERYONE agrees with that statement…it’s just the GOP has constructed a strawman where if the final conclusion ISN’T “Obama personally executed Ambassador Stevens” then there’s a coverup.

      • madhatternalice - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM

        “and there should be a full accounting of what went wrong and why,”

        @aceshigh11

        Make you a deal. You give us a full accounting of what went wrong and why with the Iraq War, and then we can talk about a misunderstanding re: Benghazi. Sound fair?

      • aceshigh11 - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM

        Wow…have you even READ what I wrote?

        I’m a liberal. I voted for Obama twice. That doesn’t mean I’m going to blindly defend his administration at all costs.

        I don’t think there’s been any nefarious coverup, but there were clearly security failures. Don’t you want to know how a group of terrorists were able to storm one of our embassies and murder the ambassador?

      • madhatternalice - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

        Sure did. I also read what Church wrote. You are talking about two different thing.

        I agree that there needs to be an understanding of why it happened. That’s not what church was saying, and it’s not what you responded to. Church said it doesn’t really matter WHY it happened, and I agree with him. Do we want to know how they ‘stormed the embassy?” Yes. Do we want to know why they stormed the embassy? I couldn’t care less.

        And, again, I go back to: sure, we can spend millions of dollars discovering why 4 people died. But where was the Republican sense of urgency to uncover what happened with the Iraq War?

        Things aren’t assigned importance simply because someone says they are (or aren’t). I’ll be more than happy to work with Republicans to figure out what happened in Benghazi, as soon as we figure out why we spent $1 trillion dollars on Iraq.

        In the list of priorities, this isn’t even close.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

        Wake me when you put as much energy into determining just why we invaded Iraq when it was 21 Saudis who attacked America on 9-11.

      • Kevin S. - Dec 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        Or hell, when there was this much energy put into investigating the eleven embassy attacks under Bush.

      • anxovies - Dec 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

        If only the Conservitards were as sensitive about American children living in motels and the mentally ill living on the streets.

      • louhudson23 - Dec 12, 2013 at 6:03 AM

        No Embassy was stormed in Benghazi.There is no U.S. Embassy in Benghazi. Exactly what was stormed in Benghazi is not exactly clear..(CIA way station is likely…)but it was not an Embassy replete with full security detail and standard fortifications……

  3. chacochicken - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Perhaps they could dump a truck load of moon pies into Lake Lanier in protest.

    • barrywhererufrom - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      @Church they lied for three week’s. They went on talk shows, do you remember the speech at the UN that Rice gave..maybe this story would jar your thick skull. They lied during an election year..iStephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard lays out the timeline of the politically motivated lies told by the Obama administration in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2012 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

      As intelligence officials pieced together the puzzle of events unfolding in Libya, they concluded even before the assaults had ended that al Qaeda-linked terrorists were involved. Senior administration officials, however, sought to obscure the emerging picture and downplay the significance of attacks that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. The frantic process that produced the changes to the talking points took place over a 24-hour period just one day before Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, made her now-famous appearances on the Sunday television talk shows. The discussions involved senior officials from the State Department, the National Security Council, the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the White House.
      They lThey lied because the truth meant Obama would have to address the terrorist attack during the campaign. And what’s worse, they used the Romney’s criticism to accuse him of playing politics when they were the ones playing politics with a terrorist attack that left four Americans dead.

      Oh, and Obama flew to Vegas for a fundraiser the next day while all this was happening. Finally if you didn’t realize that all members of Congress saw the evidence on the WOMD then you really are a clueless fool. Everyone had an opportunity to see it. The British had the same integillence. Bush didn’t lie the intelligence sucked. Now go suck it!

      I’

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

        @Church they lied for three week’s

        Yeah, the Weekly Standard, that’s a bastion of unbiased reporting. Let’s take a look at three weeks:

        In the days and weeks following the attack, President Obama and other administration officials noted that the video had sparked violent incidents at a number of U.S. diplomatic facilities and stated it was also a prime catalyst for the Benghazi attack. Two days after the attack, CNN reporter Sarah Aarthun quoted an anonymous senior U.S. administration official: “It was not an innocent mob. The video or 9/11 made a handy excuse and could be fortuitous from their perspective but this was a clearly planned military-type attack.”

        How about on 9/18, one week after the attack:

        In his September 18 appearance on The Late Show with David Letterman, President Obama said that “extremists and terrorists used (the anti-Muslim YouTube video) as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies.”

        Then two days after that:

        In his Univision Town Hall appearance on September 20, President Obama said that the “natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests.”[134] A later report from an independent review board concluded “there was no protest prior to the attacks.

        Oh, and Obama flew to Vegas for a fundraiser the next day while all this was happening.

        Bush read a children’s book DURING 9/11.

      • APBA Guy - Dec 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

        “Barry” you are and always have been a colossal idiot, as well as a racist. I thought-and hoped-your execrable presence had been permanently banished form this site.

        Seeing you here again, stupidly going on about a non-scandal (every point you raise has been thoroughly refuted by facts, facts which you ignore because you are incredibly stupid and racist).

        HBT can’t need the page views so badly that they would continue to allow someone so offensively moronic as you to post here.

      • Old Gator - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM

        The segue from the Braves stadium in Cobb County to the Benghazi fiasco was masterful – it was like watching Fred Astaire slip on a banana peel and fall down a flight of Escher stairs. Only someone as utterly vapid as Barry could pull that off with such panache.

      • anxovies - Dec 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

        Now who can argue with that? Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish but it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.

  4. barrywhererufrom - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    If the modern progressive party filed the suit the reaction would different. I don’t like Billionaire owner’s using tax payer money to fiance their stadiums..

    • chacochicken - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:28 PM

      I’m glad some did it even if it will almost be completely ineffectual. But, the tri-corn hats, man, the hats.

      • hittfamily - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM

        I don’t mind the hats. It’s the tea bags hanging from them, and misspelled signs.

        MORANS!

      • chacochicken - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM

        Hey, I’m with ‘em. Government hands off my Medicaid!

    • sandrafluke2012 - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

      Progressive= capitalism for the poor

      • hittfamily - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        See. If you and your leaders didn’t hate poor people, I might take you seriously.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:24 PM

        sandrafluke2012=Limbaugh drone in a dress

        BTW, she’s pretty, and you’re pretty gross.

  5. 461deep - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    >GO TEA PARTY<. Great move to sue regarding a selfish unnecessary move since Turner F

  6. sandrafluke2012 - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Real Tea-partiers(ron Paulish) not Rush Limbaughish are the only acceptable and real way to get this country back on track. Democrats(statists/corporatists) and republicans(statists/corporatists) are the same thing. Obama has proven to be Bush third and fourth term. Anyone that calls the tea party racist(as a whole) is usually just being ignorant, having white guilt, or afraid to be honest. Congrats. Obama is a top 10 worst president with Bush

    • 18thstreet - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM

      Oh, please. The only difference between Ron Paulish and Rush Limbaughish is that the former mixes in subtle antisemitism under the guise of worrying about the Federal Reserve.

      • sandrafluke2012 - Dec 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

        nice ignorance. simple-minded f00l

      • 18thstreet - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM

        Thanks!

        It’s an honor to be insulted by someone who doesn’t know to start a sentence with a capital letter or end it with a period, how to properly use a comma, or how to spell ‘fool.’

        My daughter is in first grade and knows how to do three of these things.

      • Old Gator - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM

        Poor dimwitted Barry and Sandrafluke (whose primary advantage is that she’s so much more clueless than Barry that she can’t even write long-winded diatribes) are the only two orfseason correspondents from whom you can sustain a concussion just by reading their posts. They’re actually that dense.

  7. ctony1216 - Dec 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Hey, maybe those Tea Partiers wouldn’t mind coming up to the Bronx and demand that the Arab investors looking for public land to build a soccer stadium should have to at least pay rent or property taxes. Check this out:

    “Bronx soccer stadium deal near Yankee Stadium offers big incentives to Arab firm”

    “Under the complex proposal, the new soccer team — a joint venture of the Yankees and Manchester City Football Club, a British team owned by Sheik Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan — would pay virtually no rent for 38 years for the largely city-owned land on which the proposed 28,000-seat soccer venue would sit.
    The new franchise would also be permitted to divert the property taxes it would normally owe the city to pay off its bonds, the sources said — a deal similar to the one the Yankees and the Mets got for their new stadiums in 2005. The soccer club would be exempt from sales taxes or mortgage taxes.”

    link: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/bronx-soccer-stadium-deal-offers-free-rent-arab-firm-article-1.1544173#ixzz2nCJMOsJ7

    It blows my mind how politicians can just give away public land to private companies to use for their own endless profit. If I wanted to open a damn hot dog stand in Central Park, I’d have to pay through the teeth to rent a spot. But the Yankees pay nothing, and neither will these soccer club owners. Amazing.

    And yes, those hot dog vendors in Central Park pay a lot in rent: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/08/the_halfmilliondollar_wiener.html

  8. 461deep - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    >GO TEA PARTY<. Great move to sue regarding a selfish unnecessary move since Turner Field is still new and just fine. I'm not against new ball parks when needed but this should have waited another 25-30 years. Residents of Cobb County should have a binding vote on this issue.
    This Tea Party effort is meant to protect all citizens regardless of their politics from bizarre greed stemming from this back room deal. Lawsuit's success a long shot but with luck can tie-up obnoxious plan 2-3 years if one judge or two supports it.

    • sandrafluke2012 - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      Uh. The G word. No libertarian should use that word

      • hittfamily - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

        What’s that? Genorosity?

      • asimonetti88 - Dec 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM

        Actually, Republicans (which Libertarians such as myself tend to be closer to than Democrats) tend to give more to charities than Democrats.

        But regardless, as a Libertarian I would not want to be associated with the Tea Party in the way that the OP suggested.

    • 18thstreet - Dec 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      I could have sworn Republicans were opposed to activist judges.

    • 461deep - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      GOP & DEM in Congress all approved stupid Iraq war. Only DEMS approved ACA in stealth a brutal Marxist law that will hurt this country for years. If DEMS become near 1 party rule all you brilliant socialist lawyers, college professors, and others will be surprised when you find out you’re not wanted because you will be too smart to be trusted. The way of all tyrants. Not a rant just citing historical truth. Socialism failed yesterday, is failing today and will fail tomorrow.
      GOP’s main hope is that the DEM’s worst nightmare c8omes true. African Americans, Hispanics and liberated women go a reduced 55-45 DEM. Signs of this beginning too emerge.
      WOOOOOOOOOOOO

      • 18thstreet - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        You are aware that pretty much every industrialized country in the world has socialized medicine, and yet capitalism survives. Unless you think England and Canada and Israel and (falls asleep) are socialist.

        What’s different is that they spend less than we do and live longer. Other than that, our health care system is awesome.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 11, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        Marxist law that will hurt this country for years.

        This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

        At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door, I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

        After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

        I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right.

        [hattip 4chan]

  9. 18thstreet - Dec 11, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    I’m absolutely opposed to using public funds to build a stadium, but this is a nonsense lawsuit. The plaintiffs are saying that they don’t like the outcome, so something illegal must have happened.

    Go win an election.

    • 461deep - Dec 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      ACA

    • bravojawja - Dec 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM

      They did win an election. Quite a lot of them in Cobb County.

      • 18thstreet - Dec 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        So it would appear that the Tea Party of Cobb County elected a bunch of people who were willing to hand over the keys to the public treasury to politically connected rich guys?

        Huh. Didn’t see that coming.

        The important thing is, they defiantly say “Merry Christmas,” pretend to hate gay people, and insist the creationism is plausible. Vote Republican!

      • bravojawja - Dec 12, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        All of that is true, except for the “pretend” part.

  10. Old Gator - Dec 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Hmmm….I seem to have run out of popcorn. No problem – box full of it in the pantry. Carry on.

  11. dparker713 - Dec 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    I hope the lawsuit is just a fishing expedition to link the owners of the land near the stadium and the commissioners. Now those would be some entertaining trials.

  12. 461deep - Dec 12, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    ACA participation is mandatory. Using an alarm clock, driving a car , flying in a plane etc. are necessities of course but one is not forced by virtue of a John Roberts made up tax to use them. Regulation for these items are for primarily for safety. ACA is a Marxist law because we must do it under threat of penalty while some are excused. I do not expect to as a senior man need anti preggo pills and do not ask a 20 year old female to include Flo Max in her health plan. We all use electricity and oil products and pay the same based on our region. ACA is a threat to our way of life if it is not repealed. Anyone who values their children’s and grandchildren’s future should know the ACA will compromise that future no end.

    • Old Gator - Dec 12, 2013 at 8:16 AM

      Nice on-the-fly definition of Marxism that has no relation whatsoever to Marxism itself. But so what? Ignorance is the new wisdom.

    • stex52 - Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      Here’s a suggestion. Go on line. Look up the actual definition of Marxism. Come back and talk some more, with a little more knowledge in your brain.

    • 18thstreet - Dec 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM

      The ACA is a threat to our way of life?

      Hard to believe a man of your age missed out on things like, oh, the Cold War that were ACTUALLY A THREAT TO OUR WAY OF LIFE, as opposed to a law that you disagree with.

  13. 461deep - Dec 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    ACA does have Marxist tenants> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marxism

    Seeks socialism over Capitalism. ACA wants the same for all except the Nany stater government leaders. Cold war was won because we prevailed over a failed economic system based upon Marxist views. I was lucky enough to miss the Plaque however. I respect that many have opposing views to mine and will never belittle your thought capabilities. ACA will belittle all our physical and mental processes.

    • misterj167 - Dec 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM

      Nobody this stupid should be allowed to own a computer.

  14. misterj167 - Dec 13, 2013 at 7:14 AM

    No matter what the new stadium will be called officially, to me it will always be known as “Lester Maddox Park (or Field or Stadium, whatever)”, or, “The Mad” for short.

    The suckers in Cobb County are going to get what they deserve. And I don’t mean baseball.

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