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Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston also plays baseball

Dec 14, 2013, 9:13 PM EST

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Florida State University quarterback Jameis Winston was named the 79th winner of college football’s Heisman Trophy on Saturday night in New York.

The Heisman Memorial Trophy Award is given annually to the “outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.” It’s sort of like Major League Baseball’s MVP. A 19-year-old redshirt freshman, he’s the youngest recipient ever.

What HBT readers might be interested to know about Winston is that he also plays baseball. The 6-foot-4 pitcher and outfielder posted a 3.00 ERA and 21 strikeouts in 27 innings this year for FSU — one of the top college baseball programs in the country. He also had a .377 OBP. To the highlights:

Winston says he spends just seven weeks a year on baseball. Imagine if he committed to it full time.

The native of Hueytown, Alabama was a 15th-round pick of the Rangers in the 2012 MLB Amateur Draft.

  1. fbwangus8736 - Dec 14, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Drafted by the Texas Rangers in 2013. Funny how they picked up Russel Wilsons baseball rights as well.

    • jackxp99 - Dec 15, 2013 at 6:42 AM

      Maybe he won because he was a pretty good college qb.

      http://goo.gl/GOjc4x

  2. aphillieated - Dec 14, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Will Jamies Winston be in the 2014 MLB Amateur Draft?

    • Drew Silva - Dec 14, 2013 at 9:42 PM

      I believe so, but he probably goes No. 1 in the NFL Draft.

      • Kevin S. - Dec 14, 2013 at 9:56 PM

        Winston is ineligible to be drafted by the NFL until 2015 – they require you to be three years out of high school to declare for the draft.

        Baseball’s draft rules are more complicated, but I thought if you entered the draft out of high school and then went to a four-year college you had to wait three years to re-enter the draft. Juco kids don’t have this restriction, IIRC.

      • hittfamily - Dec 14, 2013 at 10:01 PM

        Kevin’s right. If he went to a community college, he could be drafted immediately, Since he went to a university, he has to wait 3 years out of high school. This is his sophomore year at FSU. He’s a redshirt freshman football player, but academically, he is a sophomore. He has to be a junior to be drafted.

  3. spyder9669 - Dec 14, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Akili Smith

    • raysfan1 - Dec 14, 2013 at 11:45 PM

      …wishes he had Jameis Winston’s quick release or accuracy.

      There, finished that for you.

  4. tfbuckfutter - Dec 14, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Josh Leuke taught him how to pitch.

    True story.

    • pipkin42 - Dec 16, 2013 at 4:30 AM

      Alas, but that I only have one thumbs-up to give…

  5. bobsnygiants - Dec 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    what entigrity

  6. tablescrappy - Dec 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    Keith Law on Winston: “He wasn’t a prospect. Just a good athlete with questions about his makeup and virtually no feel for baseball.”

    • hittfamily - Dec 15, 2013 at 9:29 AM

      Well then Keith Law blew it. It is REALLY hard to make a top 10 baseball program. It’s even tougher to close for them, posting a 3.00 ERA playing Florida, Miami, Clemson, North Carolina… every year. The ACC is stacked.

      • genericcommenter - Dec 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM

        That’s true, but there are players from top 10 college programs who don’t get drafted or fail to make it out of Rookie Ball all the time. And there are college All-Americans who aren’t even considered pro prospects for one reason or another.

      • hittfamily - Dec 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM

        That’s true, but a 6’4″ 18 year old throwing in the 90’s without any formal training is a good coaches dream. I played D1 baseball in Florida. I was on travel teams starting at age 13, and playing year round. I was better than most at 18, because I was better trained than them. I threw consistent 87. The hardest I ever threw was 92 in a bullpen side session, but never topped 90 in a game.

        I went to every baseball camp high school, had a prescribed work out regiment, and had flawless mechanics. I was D1 material, but not pro material. I liken this to why I am in favor of affirmative action. If a white kid goes to tutors, SAT prep courses, has parents with books in their home, and gets a 3.3 and a 1200 on his SAT, is he really more deserving of college than a black kid who goes to work after school, grew up in a 1 parent home, no books in the home, the mother works 2 jobs, and he gets a 3.0 with an 1100 on his SAT?

        A good school, one that wants to produce the highest quality individuals should look at potential. They have the ability to mold the mind of the black kid more than the white kid, and produce a more productive adult. Likewise in baseball. If 18 year old Jameis and 18 year old me showed up to the same tryout, a coach would be foolish to choose me. I would likely be the better pitcher for a year or 2, but give Jameis the same coaching and opportunities I had, and he becomes the far superior pitcher.

      • tablescrappy - Dec 15, 2013 at 2:32 PM

        Or you are uninformed when it comes to scouting, performance bands and talent distribution. The jump to the NFL is far shorter than the jump to MLB, and thus the work required to make MLB is a completely different animal than what Winston will face going from college to the NFL. His athleticism is a non-factor if he can’t develop all the skills necessary to reach the big leagues. And there are plenty of examples of great athletes who couldn’t make it in baseball. The MLB draft is littered with them. Law is in constant contact with scouts and is trained as a scout, so when he says Winston is a non-prospect, he’s saying so from a position of great credibility.

      • hittfamily - Dec 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        Keith Law is paid to grade prospects. Winston throws 96 MPH. He is 19 years old, and only plays baseball for 7 weeks a year. If his contacts don’t see talent and potential there, I don’t know what talent or potential is.

    • asimonetti88 - Dec 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM

      I wonder if he would be considered more of a prospect if he focused on baseball instead of football. He put up some solid numbers as a freshman, you do have to wonder what he could do if he focused on baseball. He’s a pretty good football player though, so maybe he’s making the right choice.

  7. sdelmonte - Dec 14, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Let the NFL keep him. I know no charges were filed, but that case is still a mess and I can’t help but feel that something really wrong happened there.

    Also, winning the Heisman is like winning the Triple A MVP award. He might be great at that level, but it’s really just a minor league being run for free by colleges.

    • paperlions - Dec 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM

      Right. Like the kid that went to jail for a decade and was finally released after his accuser admitted that she made the whole thing up. She then sued the school district because her lies happened school grounds. Or like the time when the Duke Lacrosse team was crucified and then the women admitted that they made every thing up.

      Really, none of us have enough information to have any strong opinion on what happened. All we can hope is that the authorities did the right thing.

      • tedwmoore - Dec 15, 2013 at 12:00 AM

        We have plenty of information. Like the fact that the authorities sat on this case for a year, or that the prosecutor was not informed of the facts for 11 months after the police report, or that the medical reports released by the police do not match the medical reports released to the alleged victim. We know that the alleged victim was told to “think hard” before accusing a football player, we know that the alleged victim has been forced to relocate because of harassment, and we know that the prosecutor laughed about the facts of the case in announcing that he would not seek a conviction. In short we know that almost no one wanted her story to be true, and we know that almost no one has been an advocate for her during this process. And we know enough to sense that this was handled poorly, possibly with malfeasance. Have women wrongly accused athletes before? Sure. Could that be the case here? Sure. But the way this was handled leaves too much room for doubt.

      • paperlions - Dec 15, 2013 at 8:35 AM

        There are other facts we also know that would question the validity of any accusation. Want to list those?

      • hittfamily - Dec 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM

        That’s a hell of a conspiracy there buddy. 2 team mates lie to protect him. The police forge statements and falisfy documents, and Willie Meggs is in on it too.

        Jameis Winston was a nobody in December 2012.

        Previous FSU players Willie Meggs has prosectuted, all for much smaller things than rape, and players who were actually known. People in Tally had never heard of Jameis Winston in 2012:
        Adrian McPherson. Quarterback. Check fraud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_McPherson
        Preston Parker. Leading Wide Receiver: DUI, Marijuana. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3879281
        Peter Warrick. Heisman Runner Up. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/sports/college-football-florida-state-s-warrick-is-suspended-after-an-arrest.html
        Laverneus Coles. 12 year NFL Career: http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/sports/college-football-florida-state-s-warrick-is-suspended-after-an-arrest.html

        Tallahassee isn’t Tuscaloosa. Football is important, but people don’t live and die by it. I really have a hard time believing a massive conspiracy to cover up a rape by a black backup football player of a white girl in the deep south, all because in a few years he might be a good QB.

      • paperlions - Dec 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM

        All of this. I think rape is a horrible crime, but right behind it is the false accusation of rape. It is a huge assumption that because an accusation wasn’t immediately followed up by charges that something shady happened.

        It is more likely that the evidence and statements available were enough for detectives to doubt that a crime happened, which is why they stopped investigating…then the investigation started up again due to political pressure and nothing more, apparently corroborating the initial impression that no crime happened because the statements and evidence suggested as much.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Dec 14, 2013 at 10:32 PM

      Indeed del, there have been some questions raised about how much respect he has for the females of our species. Unanswered as yet.

      • genericcommenter - Dec 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM

        In this context “respect for the females” simply means he gets laid. That’s a pretty low bar to set for what makes a man a bad dude or not.

      • yahmule - Dec 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM

        We live in a society where female commentators on CNN practically break down in tears (check out this idiot Poppy Harlow) over a couple of high school rapists receiving slaps on the wrist for repeatedly violating a 16 year old Steubenville girl. So much anguish about the possibly ruined futures of these two predators, not a single word of compassion for the victim. Certainly not a word about her being run out of town on a rail by the disgusting cretins who populate that backwater hick town. Which is depressingly not at all unique in its willingness to assign hero status to teenagers who make their Friday nights a bit less dreary by potentially beating the football heroes from neighboring backwater hick towns.

        Yeah, it’s terrible when a woman lies about a sexual assault. No man should have his reputation destroyed like that. They estimate fewer than 2% of rapes allegations are false, which is consistent with false reports for many other crimes.

        According to the US Justice Department, 60% of rapes are never reported. This number is much higher for rapes committed against college students. Possibly as many as nine out of ten go unreported.

        http://www.statisticbrain.com/rape-statistics/

        A University of Kentucky study found that only 37% of reported rape cases are prosecuted. Of those, only 18% result in conviction.

        When you get done breaking down all the numbers, they estimate more than 96% of rapists in the United States will never spend one day in prison.

      • hittfamily - Dec 15, 2013 at 11:23 AM

        That’s a shame for rape victims. It is an unspeakable act of cruelty. However, so is being labeled a rapist, if you are in fact not a rapist. It is impossible to know for certain. There is a victim here, but no one knows who the victim is, except for 4 people. Jameis, the accuser, and the 2 people who walked in on the sexual act.

        3 people against 1. If you allow a rape to happen, and do nothing to stop it, you are one of the worst people in the world. If you lie about it afterward to protect a university, you are a horrible, horrible human being. Maybe I am cynical, but I have a hard time believing that these 3 individuals all happened to find each other.

        I’d rather think buyers remorse for the girl who met some guy at a college bar and cheated on her boyfriend.

    • raysfan1 - Dec 14, 2013 at 11:59 PM

      There’s an 84-page report of the investigation findings that anyone can google and read. It makes it seem very likely no rape happened. Among the parts of the accuser’s story that just doesn’t hold up is her claim that she cannot remember much/was in and out of consciousness due alcohol or being drugged…yet no drugs were found on toxicology testing and her BAC was half the legal limit.

      I’m not saying Winston’s a great guy. He apparently cheated on his girlfriend, but I really doubt the rape accusation. I also expect that next year, just before the statute of limitations is up, a civil suit is filed…and the settled a few months later for an undisclosed amount, just after he becomes the #1 pick in the 2015 draft.

  8. andreweac - Dec 15, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    If he dedicated himself to baseball he would probably make more money and not be brain dead by the age of 35.

    • hittfamily - Dec 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM

      Doubtful. He’s good at baseball. However, he’s a year away from being football’s highest paid rookie. I’d take the guaranteed 20 mil too, and when that contract was up, put on the spikes.

    • hisgirlgotburrelled - Dec 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      After watching just 5 minutes of highlights?… Not if he’s a QB who will be the #1 pick. That’s around $22 million guaranteed, plus endorsements right away. In 5 years he could sign a new contract for QB money. You should look up what Joe Flacco’s making.

      Watch 5 minutes of his football highlights and then take a guess as to which sport he has a better chance of eventually signing a $100 million contract in.

  9. yahmule - Dec 15, 2013 at 3:30 AM

    Do posts about football on HBT have to pass through the PFT filter before they’re approved for public consumption?

    • yahmule - Dec 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM

      I’m getting pissed off now.

  10. DonRSD - Dec 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM

    This kid is a special athlete.
    Good for him to play at such a high level in football, yet have that baseball background.

    I’m a Miami fan, but this kid is something special.

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