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Tony Bosch: Alex Rodriguez wanted to start an 800-homer club

Jan 12, 2014, 9:15 PM EDT

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Interviewed by 60 Minutes for Sunday’s show, former drug dealer Tony Bosch says he first met with Alex Rodriguez in 2010 and subsequently gave him numerous performance enhancers and supplements over the following two years, including the banned substances testosterone, hGH and insulin growth factor.

Bosch said upon meeting Rodriguez the former MVP asked him immediately what he gave Manny Ramirez that led to Ramirez’s resurgence in 2008 after joining the Dodgers. Bosch, who allegedly injected Rodriguez himself on occasion, added that A-Rod was driven to become the first player ever to hit 800 homers.

Bosch stated that he loves baseball, but that he had no qualms about supplying players with PEDs, something he did for as long as 10 years. He commented on how he might have been merely leveling the playing field for Rodriguez, since the pitcher, “the guy catching the baseball” and “the guy Alex tags out at third base” were also likely cheating.

Of course, those comments couldn’t have gone over particularly well with the league, which paid Bosch for his cooperation, as well as protected him. The closest thing to a bombshell provided during the interview was that a known associate of Rodriguez was one of several who alledgedly threatened Bosch’s life. Bosch also said A-Rod’s team offered to send him to Colombia and pay him $150,000 to lay low until everything blew over.

Bosch added that beating MLB’s drug testing wasn’t any problem at all. The testosterone troches he gave Rodriguez could be taken in the first inning of a contest and still leave no evidence behind for a postgame urine testing. Nothing, though, was said about Melky Cabrera, Bartolo Colon and Yasmani Grandal. Those three were Bosch clients who all failed drug tests and received 50-game suspensions in 2012. Other clients, such as Ryan Braun and Jhonny Peralta, never failed drug tests but were suspended last season anyway.

MLB commissioner Bud Selig and COO Rob Manfred both did interviews for CBS. Neither was asked why exactly Rodriguez deserved the original 211-game suspension, now reduced to 162 games, when others received 50-game bans. Manfred said Rodriguez attempted to bribe Bosch, which was obviously in poor taste given that MLB was also in the process of bribing him by paying him and dropping a lawsuit against him. Selig said Rodriguez did things that were unprecedented during his 50 years in baseball, but never truly elaborated.

The enhanced suspension is still at the heart of the matter here, and tonight’s interview did nothing to answer the questions about why A-Rod was punished so more severely than everyone else. While no one is shedding tears for the disgraced 14-time All-Star, there’s still no clear reason why he was treated so harshly, other than the idea that it was simply Selig’s whim.

The other thing of interest here is the timeline. A-Rod started seeing Bosch in Aug. 2010, according to the interview, and continued receiving supplies into the 2012 season. It certainly doesn’t seem as though Rodriguez’s performance was enhanced by the partnership, though. His OPS has declined every year since 2007.

2007: 1.067
2008: .965
2009: .933
2010: .847
2011: .823
2012: .783
2013: .771

For what it’s worth, Rodriguez may have gotten a boost immediately after meeting Bosch. He had his best month of the season that September, hitting .295/.375/.600 with nine of his 30 homers.

Also of note: besides Ramirez coming up in passing, no player other than Rodriguez was brought up by Bosch or anyone else during the interview. That even though he said he had been working with players for 10 years.

  1. chacochicken - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    Tony Bosch is willing to incriminate players on a sliding scale based on said players salary or animosity with commissioner.

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM

      A-Rod should have ordered the hit on Bosch, it would have been cheaper.

    • 27ringsandcounting - Jan 12, 2014 at 11:45 PM

      I dont believe a word this guy says. Im sure alex is guilty of doing something but the way mlb is going about this is a little over the top. I hope alex wins his lawsuit and gets rightfully compensted.

      • mlbfeces - Jan 14, 2014 at 12:16 AM

        Arod is suing the Player’s Union, even if he wins, he won’t get compensated, because the Player’s Union will never side with Arod again! It’s the Union that has made player’s rich and do you think they are going to side with Arod to get his compensation after he sued them?

    • oldschoolnflman - Jan 13, 2014 at 2:17 AM

      Boesch is a liar. He blinked way too much, took deep breathes on anything controversial and spilled out the company line. This is disgusting.

      • zapainhurtzalot - Jan 13, 2014 at 8:33 AM

        I agree with you somewhat oldschool. He’s not exactly being truthful, however, I believe that he’s telling MOSTLY the truth. His body language indicated that he was embellishing some parts of his story and trying to stay “on script with the company (MLB) line.” A lot of his body language indicated that he was being truthful but having a hard time actually telling the truth because he knew how bad it made him look.

        He’s still a scumbag POS no matter if he’s completely truthful or fibbing a little/a lot.

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      • skins51186 - Jan 13, 2014 at 3:07 PM

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  2. flamethrower101 - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    After watching the whole thing, I actually believe AROD has a legitimate gripe. I’m probably reaching, but it’s fascinating how no other player was mentioned as having a relationship to Bosch. I know the story was centered around AROD and his suspension, but still.

    The MLBPA is surely pissed about this even though they really don’t have a reason to be. All in all, the only thing certain here is that this whole mess is about to get even messier.

    • chacochicken - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:32 PM

      I am amazed that MLB put a couple of people on national television that are appreciably smarmier than Alex. I’m not sure how I’m going to get that film of my tv screen.

      • flamethrower101 - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:39 PM

        I’m amazed that CBS allowed this to air. They barely mentioned AROD’s side. Or the MLBPA. I’m not saying AROD’s chances of winning just shot up in the air, but I think federal judges at the very least would be more open to hearing the case rather than just blatantly dismissing it by citing the CBA.

      • rje49 - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:45 PM

        Well, ARod had nothing to say except denials. He has nothing to refute the evidence. No wonder he didn’t want to testify. Besides ARod himself, they only one on the show who I didn’t believe was ARod’s lawyer, but then it’s his job to deny everything anyway.

      • chacochicken - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:49 PM

        I don’t think anyone can look at A-Rod as some kind of sympathetic figure. He is certainly guilty but damned if MLB isn’t trying their best to look like shady self-serving bullies intent on enforcing a vendetta against one particular player. Guilty or not, I don’t see a federal prosecutor going to trial with Tony Bosch as the state’s star witness.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM

        You think the feds are going to prosecute A-Rod? For what? The drug thing? That’s not even worth it. Did they try to prosecute Braun or the others? FYI, we’ve fired people from our company for failing drug tests and none of them were prosecuted either.

      • bleedgreen - Jan 13, 2014 at 9:34 AM

        rje49:

        What can he do BUT deny it? He didn’t fail a single test. He performance didn’t jump. So what else can he provide in order to prove his side of the story? Its up to the plaintiff to prove that the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, not that the defendant has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he isn’t.

        Essentially, Bosch has no real proof that A-Rod did anything. His credibility is suspect and he’s a known cheater and liar. So is A-Rod, but I feel like if MLB is the ones going after him, they need more than the testimony of a scumbag cheater.

  3. csbanter - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:28 PM

    ARod and Selig should both step aside for the good of the game.

    • apkyletexas - Jan 13, 2014 at 12:52 AM

      The Yankees and Red Sox and a few other clubs should have their World Series titles vacated.

      Clearly they knew exactly what was going on.

      • yournuts - Jan 13, 2014 at 2:20 AM

        Yea, the Yankees and Red Sox will give the titles to the Mets. The way they play you know they never were on drugs.

      • cohnjusack - Jan 13, 2014 at 11:57 AM

        I’m pretty certain you can find players from every WS champion in that era who had a significant player who got caught using steroids.

      • cohnjusack - Jan 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        Feel free to fill in any missing blanks here fellow HBT commenters (all players listed are linked due to actual sourced evidence (Mitchell Report, Biogenesis, positive test, alleged in 2003 test, other news report) not speculation

        1995 Braves
        David Justice

        1996 Yankees
        Jim Leyritz, Andy Pettitte

        1997 Marlins
        Gary Sheffield, Kevin Brown

        1998 Yankees
        Chuck Knoblauch, Andy Pettitte, Mike Stanton

        1999 Yankees
        Chuck Knoblauch, Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens, Jason Grimsley, Mike Stanton

        2000 Yankees
        Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice, Glenallen Hill, Jose Canseco, Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens, Jason Grimsley, Mike Stanton

        2001 Diamondbacks
        Matt Williams

        2002 Angels
        Troy Glaus

        2003 Marlins
        (None that I can find. The closest is Ivan Rodriguez being implicated by Canseco)

        2004 Red Sox
        Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz

        …that’s a lot of World Series titles to give back. Especially considering their opponents in each round of the playoffs probably had steroid users too.

  4. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    I especially appreciated the part about Bosh’s girlfriend getting a text in Spanish saying Bosh was going to die. The Spanish part is what proves it was Alex Rodriguez.

    • chacochicken - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM

      If only he would have threatened in Yiddish then he could have blamed Braun.

  5. historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    The centaur is afraid of needles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • chacochicken - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:38 PM

      Many good and brave half-men, half-horses and chickens can be averse to needles

      • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:43 PM

        You apologists make me SICK!

  6. historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    But, wait! There’s more…

  7. drewzducks - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    I’m more impressed with Wilt’s 20,000 club.

  8. cackalackyank - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    It like watching the same wreck in slow motion, over and over and over again.

  9. djpostl - Jan 12, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    “It certainly doesn’t seem as though Rodriguez’s performance was enhanced by the partnership, though. His OPS has declined every year since 2007.”

    Meaningless argument, it might have been 100 points below that if he was just an agin ballplayer and not “an aging ballplayer on the juice”.

  10. churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Some questions I’m sure weren’t answered, but anyone that watched can confirm/deny:

    Mr. Bosch, you are under indictment for providing drugs to minors. Is this true?
    Mr. Bosch, so you admit you provided controlled substances to people without a license?
    Mr. Bosch, if you didn’t have a medical license, how did you obtain these controlled substances?

    While I wait, I’m going to check in with this guy who’s offering a package deal on some NYC bridges. Says he can get them for me, really cheap…

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:27 PM

      How is Bosch not in jail, he has admitted to breaking the law, does he have any
      deal with anyone other then MLB?

    • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:57 PM

      They noted that he had been cited and fined for practicing medicine without a license. I wouldn’t read too much into that stuff not being covered though. They could’ve been left out for a number of reasons including: 1) there’s more of the report to come tomorrow, 2) Boesch’s attorney may have refused to allow him to answer questions pertaining to a criminal investigation, 3) the juicy story is about A-Rod so the questions focused on that/it was edited to tell that story, 4) etc. That level of detail is going to come out when there’s a long investigative report/series on the whole thing.

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM

        Bosch has to be on law enforcements radar after admitting to supplying and injecting steroids and did Bosch report the cash payments to the IRS.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2014 at 11:10 PM

        I’m sure he is but it will take years for those issues to be resolved and it’s likely that he will get to plead the charges down or something. But, all of that is aside from the A-Rod matter. *This* investigation is about A-Rod. I’m sure you won’t hear much about the outcome of the Bosch investigation — because he isn’t rich and famous.

  11. phillysports1 - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    @flamethrower101

    I saw the hole thing too , speechless .

  12. hardkor07mn - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    Good lord, go play in Mexico already!
    A-ROD is the biggest tool in baseball

  13. phillysports1 - Jan 13, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    @27ringsandthatsit

    How can you not believe what he just said ? Dude they have text messages that’s not enough for you ?

    • yournuts - Jan 13, 2014 at 2:24 AM

      The text messages did not say anything incriminating. It was in some sort of code according to Bosch.

  14. rythestunner - Jan 13, 2014 at 12:35 AM

    “Other clients, such as Ryan Braun and Jhonny Peralta, never failed drug tests but were suspended last season anyway.”

    Would you like to restate this? I’m quite sure Ryan Braun DID fail a drug test. His suspension might have been overturned on appeal, but he most certainly did fail a drug test.

  15. dinofrank60 - Jan 13, 2014 at 2:31 AM

    Instead of looking at his OPS for the last seven years, just isolate his SLG:

    From Baseball Reference

    2007: .645
    2008: .573
    2009: .532
    2010: .506
    2011: .461
    2012: .430
    2013: .423

    He wanted to start a 800 HR club; he should’ve concentrated on hittting the ball first.

  16. sleepyirv - Jan 13, 2014 at 5:38 AM

    Somewhere, Sadaharu Oh is smiling.

  17. mogogo1 - Jan 13, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    “It certainly doesn’t seem as though Rodriguez’s performance was enhanced by the partnership, though. His OPS has declined every year since 2007.”
    __________

    Who is to say his numbers wouldn’t have declined even more sharply had he been clean? You’re talking about a span where not only was he getting older but was injured for significant stretches. That’s exactly the scenario that drives many guys to look for some extra help.

  18. 2late2matter - Jan 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM

    Believe the larger picture is whether MLB will allow the many PED users – who have served a ‘penalty’ – to eventually be allowed into the HOF.

    Although for a different reason, one of the greatest players of all times – “Charlie Hustle” (Pete Rose) – remains ineligible for induction into both the Cincinnati Reds Baseball HOF and the National MLB HOF.

    Hopefully future sports voters will suffer amnesia and A-Rod will be voted into that HOF, where the best belong.

  19. dirtyharry1971 - Jan 13, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    Yea well the jays are trying to start a 100 loss season club and they are starting it this year!

  20. keltictim - Jan 13, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    Ok so to possibly clear some things up, arod was the only player brought up by Bosch because the segment was about arod not biogenesis as a whole. Bosch wasn’t asked about his criminal proceedings because (I’m guessing) either it was agreed to before hand that he wouldn’t be asked about it, or he was asked about it and gave a standard no comment or my lawyer has advised me not to answer any of those questions, if that’s the case it was probably edited out. The segment answered some of my questions but overall left me with more questions than answers. 60 min is not the hard hitting news production it once was. To everyone talking about why arod got the suspension he did there’s possibly many answers to that. Threatening someone attempted bribery, intimidating witnesses, the list goes on. Done if his actions in my humble opinion warrant a lifetime ban. Threatening to kill somebody is way worse than betting in my book. Does the JDA have specific language thSt a suspension can only come from a failed test, or is there language in it that covers documented abuse and subsequent cover up? You could make the assessment that Bosch told MLB exactly how arod fooled the test and with that knowledge arods passed tests are actually failed tests in MLBs eyes. That is pure speculation, but I could see MLB doing that.

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