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Tim McCarver will announce 30 games for the Cardinals

Jan 17, 2014, 11:19 AM EDT

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Tim McCarver is retired from doing national broadcasts for FOX, but the 72-year-old is staying busy and staying on television.

Dan Caesar of the St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that McCarver will spend 30 games in the broadcast booth this season as part of the Cardinals’ local broadcast team on FOX Sports Midwest.

McCarver began his playing career with the Cardinals in 1959 as a 17-year-old and played 12 seasons in St. Louis, telling Caesar: “It’s fabulous, a complete merry-go-round, it’s wonderful. Coming back to St. Louis after starting there some 55 years ago is obviously special.”

  1. blues1988 - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    been waiting on this article for a month or so now. bring on the hate. personally i think it can’t get much worse then the team we already have. al and rick are unbearable, dan is the only thing decent about it. never really been a fan but i think mccarver will bring some good to fsnmw.

    • Ralph - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:20 PM

      BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Can’t…..breathe….. “i think mccarver will bring some good to fsnmw” may be the funniest thing I’ve ever read.

    • asimonetti88 - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:48 PM

      Tim McCarver hopes that there is climate change in St. Louis so he can see more home runs.

    • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 1:22 PM

      While McCarver is pretty unbearable himself, he’s not really any worse than the Fox crew. Al is the worst, Horton is right on his heals, and Dan is just useless (not bad, just…well useless). They are an announcing disaster. They are so bad that I either turn the sound off or switch to the other team’s broadcast on MLB.TV….even if that means listening the Reds announcers.

      • spudchukar - Jan 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        If it is Tom Brennaman (sp?), I might go back to Al.

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM

        It is always a tough call….as a Cardinal fan, listening to Brennaman when the Reds are losing is fun/rewarding….but often I just wind up going to mute and wishing there was an “ambient ballpark sounds” option.

      • spudchukar - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:12 PM

        Maybe in the not too distant future, translation devices will allow games to be broadcast by past announcers; Jack Buck in 2020.

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:15 PM

        That would be fantastic. I often switch to Dodger games after Cardinal games end just to listen so some decent announcing. People that don’t listen to different broadcasts probably don’t realize just how bad the Cardinals’ crew is because they have little to compare them to.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM

        Don’t you have multiple audio options for MLB.TV? I’m pretty sure I can switch my audio to a different radio option while I watch the game. I think?

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:31 PM

        Yes, (see comments above). Most of the time I listen to the other team’s feed….but sometimes both of them are horrible, and I’d rather listen to Cardinal announcers be homers than Reds or Pirates announcers being homers.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        No, I mean, do you have a Cardinals radio option that’s not the Fox guys. I think we have two announcing teams (1 radio & 1 TV) and you can pick either to listen to.

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:10 PM

        I don’t think you can listen to the radio and watch the video feed at the same time…and I’d rather watch what is going on that listen to it (with few exceptions)…announcers these days grew up with TV, they don’t have the talent to paint a picture of the game with words.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM

        You can pick which audio you want with the video. I do that all the time.

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:32 PM

        Often I say something like, “Jesus, STFU already.” and hit mute.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        Does Jesus Tim answer you?

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:10 PM

        Nah, he doesn’t….it’s like we’re married.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM

        I’m glad you found someone.

    • themanytoolsofignorance - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM

      I don’t like to give props to Tim McCarver but he’s not a fan of random dead air. I find the current guys like to blither while the play is going on , often blithering about something other than the play, and then give you long deep silence when nothing is happening on the field. At least McCarver will comment on actual game play. Its shallow & ditsy commentary, but its at least congruent with game play.

  2. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Sucks to be you Cardinal fans!

    • spudchukar - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:47 PM

      We can mute the volume, you still have to watch.

    • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 1:22 PM

      Yeah, first world problems…

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:35 PM

        I’m very happy for you.

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

        THPBPBBBTH!

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

        This makes enjoying Mario and Ron all the sweeter. Maybe you should change your handle to “bitterlions” or “mccarverfan2014.”

        he he

      • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:59 PM

        *Rod

        Dammit.

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Jan 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM

      It’s nice to know even winning teams have to suffer!

      • paperlions - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM

        They definitely detract from the enjoyment of the game. They have to be among the 5 worst crews in baseball. I often have the Cardinal game on the laptop on mute and flip around between Red Sox, Mets, and Yankee games with the sound on….watching the Cardinal game, but listening the others.

  3. fanofevilempire - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    I love when your watching the Yankees and Red Sox and this fool is telling
    you about Bob Gibson telling him to shut up and catch.
    Adios Tim!

  4. wonkypenguin - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    I had no idea Tim was one of the best fans in baseball…

  5. godsmacked1 - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    I don’t get the McCarver bashing. I’ve liked him since his days doing Phillies games. I listened to him during the Mets run in the 80s, and never get tired of him doing national broadcasts. It’s been the trend to bash him, but he’s one of the best in the business…. and besides, things could be worse, aka: Joe Morgan.

    • asimonetti88 - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:49 PM

      It’s a five letter word: S-T-R-I-K-E

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM

      It’s been the trend to bash him, but he’s one of the best in the business

      If a man who says this* is one of the best in the business, than that’s more of an indictment against the business than the man. However, he may have been good in the 80s but he’s so often wrong now, and refuses to admit it, that I can’t see how he can be enjoyable to listen/watch.

      *http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2007/09/zero-one.html

      “We had our friends at Stats, Inc. check and see whether more multi-run innings came with a lead off homer or a lead off walk. You would think that a lead off walk would lead to more big innings than a lead off home run. Not true. A lead off home run, this year, has lead to more multi-run innings than lead off walks. It’s against conventional thinking.”

      • spudchukar - Jan 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM

        That fact is interesting, but contains a flaw. Notably that a run has already scored during the solo shot, and has little impact, outside of psychological, on the rest of the inning. Another solo shot with two outs would fit into the criteria of multi-inning runs.

        I recognize that it is virtually impossible to measure the two against each other, but the above caveat does diminish the notion that one is more influential than the other.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:03 PM

        It’s psychological, but also maybe a sign that the pitcher doesn’t have his stuff that day. Although like you mentioned, the latter would be hard to know.

        However, it’s the “against conventional wisdom” part that’s baffling. Conventional wisdom says to me, if you want to look up how often a multi-run inning happens, that already having one run on board is more an indicator than a guy 270′ away.

        And then he repeated it a month later even after getting the information from Stats Inc:

        http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2007/10/oops-he-did-it-again.html

      • godsmacked1 - Jan 17, 2014 at 3:15 PM

        I don’t disagree that he can be grating at times, but who isn’t? He’s entertaining and isn’t afraid to have an opinion. Better than being bland and non-confrontational.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:15 PM

        He’s entertaining and isn’t afraid to have an opinion.

        But he’s often wrong, and doesn’t let that from repeating his point(s). That’s what bothers me, and it bothers me about all announcers.

        What’s worse is when you look at the difference between NFL/MLB announcers and the guys who do international soccer. In EPL/CL/WC games, the PBP guy tells you whats going on while the color guy gives information about the teams, maybe standings, updates from around the league, etc. MLB/NFL guys try to teach the game, and often are wrong about the information they give. You don’t hear soccer announces teaching the offsides rule or the difference between a direct and in-direct kick.

      • themanytoolsofignorance - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:19 PM

        Mr. Outraged, McCarver talks about the game at hand. Yes, he’s often wrong. Yes, he repeats his wrongness. Yes, other announcers are better. But, I’ve tuned into Cards games to ~ 2 minutes of dead air while a pitching change or new batter steps in or whatever. Ive had to use the volume control many times in these special little interludes to ascertain that the sound feed is active, confirmed by fan noise. Then, when a pitch is thrown or the ball is hit, seemingly out of nowhere, 2 guys will start to quickly tell me what I just saw happen, then enter into a short, desultory debate, on some random fact having nothing to do with the game at hand. Then they’ll resume saying nothing while the players adjust themselves for the next pitch/hit. McCarver does the opposite. the game play speaks for itself and his blithering takes place in down time between plays or he gets all pumped about that which he saw and describes precisely why what unfolded happened the way it did. Yes, often he’s wrong, but at least he’s engaged.

    • mtr75 - Jan 17, 2014 at 3:29 PM

      I completely agree. I enjoyed him with the Mets in the 80’s. Then again my favorite national crew was by far Joe Morgan and Jon Miller. I loved listening to those guys on Sunday night. It was a must for me every week. Now I couldn’t care less about Sunday Night Baseball if I tried.

  6. scrot7 - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:32 PM

    I was at a health club working out one day (location to remain top secret) and stumbled across Jolly Joe in the locker room. I kid you not, the Dude’s scrotum seam had stich marks like a rawlings. This guy is the essence of baseball.

  7. kcroyal - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    TBFIB reap exactly what they sow.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:53 PM

      Chickens coming home to roost kinda thing?

  8. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Maybe his “aw-shucks”iness and stories about Cardinals teams of the past will be more welcome to the local midwestern audience. After all, SOMEONE in Chicago must like Hawk Harrelson or he wouldn’t have his job.

    I am surprising myself with how supportive I feel for McCarver continuing his broadcasting career, now that I know I won’t be the one hearing him.

    • 4d3fect - Jan 17, 2014 at 3:32 PM

      Yup. Let him have at it, now that I don’t need to hear him.

  9. hockeyflow33 - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    From everyone in the US, We’re sorry St Louis.

  10. drs76109 - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    Jeez, the Phillies need some serious broadcast help after “no doubles” Wheeler was dumped. Woulda been nice to see McCarver in PHL but prolly not realistic since he couldn’t catch for Lefty there anymore…

    Hope he hits a HR and turns it I to a double in StL…

  11. Old Gator - Jan 18, 2014 at 12:21 AM

    Poisonally, I would love to hear McCarver call the collapse of the defensive line around Petersburg and the Confederate retreat to Appomattox – you know, like Howard Cosell calling the assassination of the caudillo at the beginning of Bananas.

  12. redsox711 - Jan 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    He sucks. Rough year fir the Cards, lose the WS, now have this jackass.

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