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Jonny Gomes speaks out against A-Rod

Jan 24, 2014, 8:30 AM EDT

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Jonny Gomes met the media before last night’s Boston Baseball Writer’s dinner and he had some choice words for Alex Rodriguez, reports the Boston Herald:

“He does steroids or whatever, it sucks. He does this or that, it sucks. He’s always in the news, it sucks,” the Red Sox left fielder told the Herald yesterday before the 75th annual Boston Baseball Writers’ dinner. “But this is the players’ union he’s going against. It’s all of us. Not a real good idea . . . I don’t think it’s really a good idea to go after our union. Down to my (expletive) kids, down to the benefits we have, down to our retirement fund, the union makes our lives better. We pay dues to the union for our rights.”

This is not the first time Gomes has voiced his opinion on A-Rod. Back in August when Rodriguez returned from the disabled list and played while appealing his then-211-game suspension, Gomes spoke out against PED users in general and, with specific reference to Rodriguez, said “I hope our dues aren’t being used for his lawyers’ fees.”

Gomes is certainly entitled to his opinion and his opinion on Rodriguez is in the clear majority based on everything we’ve heard about player sentiments on the matter. At the same time, when union members, like Gomes, are on record saying that he’d prefer that the union not defend A-Rod, and when his opinions on A-Rod are later shown to be quite in step with other members and union leadership — really, what Gomes is saying here echoes exactly what union leadership told the players just the other day — it’s not hard to understand how someone like A-Rod can come away believing that maybe, just maybe, the union didn’t have his back. Which is the central claim in the portion of the lawsuit which relates to the MLBPA.

  1. deathmonkey41 - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    What’s he going to say when his buddy Big Papi fails a test one day?

    • hep3 - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:48 AM

      Big Papi already has one failed test. It seems that if a guy is your teammate, all is forgiven.

      • dan1111 - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:04 AM

        The difference between the evidence for A-Rod’s and Ortiz’s steroid use has been gone over so many times. Yet still this talking point does not die.

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM

        dan1111, that is so funny, let me guess you, like the Sox, they both did steroids, don’t fool yourself but A-Rod had to ruin baseball.

      • mikhelb - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:24 AM

        @dan1111:

        There really is no difference, Ortíz train in the Dominican Republic with Ángel Presinal, a guy who is banned from by MLB and can’t even set foot in a MLB/MiLB stadium for his past with steroids (he was caught with a bag full of ‘em in Toronto). Other clients of Ángel have included various baseball players who have tested positive in anti-doping tests, like Manny, Tejada, Palmeiro, Bartolo, Melky, etcetera.

        Why MLB doesn’t investigate Ortiz’s association with Angel given that David already tested positive once? (but was overlooked by Mitchell in his report, you know Mitchell, the guy who worked with the Red Sox and got 20+ millions from MLB to create a report on drug use but avoided mentioning the positive tests of Manny and Ortíz).

        As Canseco famously said in his book: there are players who get away with everything because they are the poster boys of MLB.

      • Reflex - Jan 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        mikhelb –

        I know this is your favorite talking point, but Presinal trains a bunch of top baseball players, including many who have never even been suspected of using steroids. That a trainer would have hookups to steroids for athletes is not exactly any sort of surprise. The question is whether an athlete avails themselves of that.

        Guilt by association is idiotic. Its pretty clear that Presinal has clean and dirty clients, and that he will help a client in either direction. Its up to the athlete to make that choice. Mind you that I don’t think Presinal is a good guy, he’s not, he helps people cheat. But I do not think that someone training with him indicates steroid use, since clearly a lot of guys who do are clean.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 24, 2014 at 1:49 PM

        RE: Presinal

        As mentioned he trains many athletes that haven’t been implicated/suspected/failed a test for PEDs. He’s a well known trainer in the DR that trains well known athletes. Also according to him, he was getting the bag for Juan Gonzalez (aka the steroids weren’t Presinal’s), which is just as believable as the bag being Angel’s. Let’s also not forget that steroids aren’t illegal in the DR. So let’s not demonize a guy that’s using legal substances in his home country, and trains players according to those laws.

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:11 AM

      my take is Johnny really thinks A-Rod sucks and Johnny had one too many cock tails.
      oh boy!

    • pjmarn6 - Jan 26, 2014 at 1:26 PM

      King Kong still can’t get over coming to the aid of Rodriguez even when Rodriguez stabs his union in the back. But what would you expect from an ex-lawyer. He has to stand up for his client no matter what.

  2. nymets4ever - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:45 AM

    I hate steroids and everything too, but A-Rod is still one of the immortal figures in the history of sports. Do you really think he cares what some marginally-talented, rat-bearded halfwit from the sticks of Northern Cali thinks about him?? lol

  3. nsstlfan - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:55 AM

    Big Papi failed before they were illegal. So he should be out of this argument

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 AM

      So did Arod, but that didn’t stop people from vilifying him.

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:12 AM

      Is steroid legal in America?

      • jimeejohnson - Jan 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM

        Are you really that stupid?

    • mikhelb - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM

      Wrong, steroids have been banned since the 1980s in the US. The substance for which David Ortíz failed his anti-doping test was for a controlled substance, which also was banned by MLB per the CBA back then (every substance banned by the FDA or deemed as a controlled substance, is banned from MLB unless a player gets a permit from MLB to use it for medical reasons… a medical reason Ortíz didn’t have).

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM

        (every substance banned by the FDA or deemed as a controlled substance, is banned from MLB unless a player gets a permit from MLB to use it for medical reasons… a medical reason Ortíz didn’t have).

        This isn’t true:

        You wrote a famous memorandum to all MLB clubs in 1991 warning about steroid issue. It stated, in part: “The possession, sale, or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance by major league players and personnel is strictly prohibited. Those involved in the possession, sale, or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance are subject to discipline by the commissioner and risk permanent expulsion from the game.” Your whole basis for the memorandum was the violation of federal law. You’re a lawyer. And yet it was utterly ignored. Why? And, had it been heeded, how would the sordid history of the past two decades be different?

        The letter was ignored because it didn’t affect the players. They were thoroughly protected by collective bargaining. But I wanted to make a moral statement to them and legal one to everyone else. The union told them to ignore it. The only way a change could be made was through collective bargaining. The union argued that testing violated players’ civil liberties. The union had strong, bright lawyers who concocted a bulletproof legal argument.

        I knew the memo would be ignored. But even more surprising was that no one in the press covered it. It turned out to be right, though. Federal law, much later, would assert itself.

        http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/5/31/4373908/fay-vincent-interview

      • anxovies - Jan 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM

        Actually, it’s perfectly legal in the US to take steroids if prescribed by a physician. They are controlled substances but so are other drugs such as penicillin and Viagra. MLB and other sports ban steroids, but since these are businesses and not governments, that does not make their use illegal under medical supervision.

      • anxovies - Jan 24, 2014 at 2:14 PM

        My reference to penicillin and Viagra was a poor choice. I don’t think either is technically a controlled substance, but both require a prescription and the feds and most states penalize unauthorized possession and sales.

  4. paperlions - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM

    With such an eloquently stated and well-informed opinion, I really don’t see how anyone could disagree with Gomes’ take on the situation.

    • themanytoolsofignorance - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

      Besides his lack of elegance with expressing himself, there’s the fail with respect to how this is seen by a court of law. In fact all union member statements back up what Rodriguez has asserted and are in effect making the case for him. Gomes and in particular the MLBPA reps need to belt up with this stuff. Its strengthening the case against them.

      • paperlions - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:16 AM

        Yep, that was the “well-informed” part of the sarcasm. It is nearly impossible to fail any harder in a comment than Gomes did.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM

      Great minds. I was going to say the same. It was the second most eloquent thing I’ve read this morning. FYI, it sucks.

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM

      He had me @ the first suck.

  5. elvin2014 - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:58 AM

    Messge to Jonny Gomes:

    A-Ros is FIGHTING for his life and honor. Certanly, I think you’d do the same thing, Jonny Gomes….

    • dan1111 - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM

      Other people accused of steroid use in this case apologized, accepted the penalty, and moved on. So it is clear that not everyone would behave in the same way A-Rod has.

      • nategearhart - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM

        Had ARod been given the same penalty as the other guys, maybe he would have accepted and moved on.

      • themanytoolsofignorance - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM

        How many of them received 4X the normal penalty?

      • dan1111 - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:51 AM

        Supposedly there was a much shorter suspension on the table for A-Rod, as well.

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:17 AM

        A-Rod did accept responsibility for using steroid, actually Bolo, which his cousin picked up for him but anyway, this current suspension did not include a positive steroid test, possibly because he only used pee from mid stream as opposed to beginning and end stream.

      • mikhelb - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM

        What if they were presented with two options: a lifetime ban or a 50 game suspension, and they decided not to fight against MLB because really just a handfull of players have won cases versus MLB.

        I highly doubt that everybody else used just one substance and for only one season… and on that subject, Bosch mentioned giving substances to Manny but MLB didn’t suspend Manny again for his continuing use (remember his 100 game suspension was reduced to 50 so he could return to the majors and was in the MiLB this year, so, MLB had jurisdiction to suspend him again, this time for life).

    • thenameisbootsy - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM

      Good god. Do you really think A-Rod is fighting for his life? The worst case scenario is that he leaves the game with tens of millions of dollars to pursue four decades of sex with models punctuated with the occasional round of golf. Let’s dial back on the hyperbole, eh?

      And Craig, can you go back to writing stories mocking Cardinals fans? As much as I hate those posts, they’re a far shot better than these thrice-daily “Why is everyone picking on A-Roid?” stories.

      • justanothersportsjunkie - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

        How dare you impugn the journalistic integrity of anyone on the NBC high-horse soapbox?

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM

        A-Rod said he is fighting for his life, how do I know he is not, but hey four decades of sex
        and tens of millions of dollars is a heck of a way to keep up the fight.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

      I think “Gomes Honor” should be the name of a cologne. I wouldn’t date anyone who wore it, of course (unless the only other alternative in the world was “Chipper Musk” /shudder). But, I’d love to see the inevitable commercial pitches.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM

        Gomes Honor was the working title for Prizzi’s honor when it looked as though Jim Nabors was going to be the star.

        As for baseball cologne names, for the 18-22 year olds it is “Bryce’s Body Spray”, for the metrosexual’s it is “Cole”, for the regular guy who is in denial that he is wearing perfume it is “Nautical Ripken”, and for your grandfather it is “Ted Williams Aftershave Goddammit!”

      • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:26 AM

        LMAO!

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

        But, I’d love to see the inevitable commercial pitches.

        Probably something like this: [nsfw language]

  6. elvin2014 - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:59 AM

    Messge to Jonny Gomes:

    A-Rod is FIGHTING for his life and honor. Certanly, I think you’d do the same thing, Jonny Gomes….

    • doctornature - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM

      Honor??? You think the Fraud is fighting for his honor???

      Fraud left his honor in a needle sticking out of his but long ago, and lying his a$$ off on national TV many times over.

      You must be the only baseball fan in America that thinks this total Fraud has any honor. With reports of High School PED use, he has NEVER had any honor his entire career.

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        A-Rod thinks he is Ryan Braun who was so honorable while picking up the MVP award.

  7. dirtyharry1971 - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    save us the riot act jonny

    • km9000 - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM

      Can’t believe you forgot this Gomes quote: “Playing for the Blue Jays? It sucks.”

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM

        he really has a handle on the word sucks.
        did he have too many cock tails before that quote too?

  8. DelawarePhilliesFan - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    History’s Greatest Victim

    • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM

      Dude, it SUCKS! Don’t you understand?

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:41 AM

        resisting….resisting…CAN’T resist

        That’s what she said!

      • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM

        My mother would call that toilet humor.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        She needs to get with the times – it”s the hottest joke right now.

        And by right now I mean 2007. And by hottest, I mean to people who watch The Office. And who liked the joke

      • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM

        See Twitter for my response. :)

      • fanofevilempire - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:28 AM

        I’m catching on basically he thinks A-Rod sucks.
        I’m I right?

      • jimeejohnson - Jan 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM

        You’re never right.

  9. mudhead123 - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM

    Why is a bench player being interviewed?

  10. js20011041 - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    The greatest tragedy in all of this, is that a man who made more than half a billion dollars in his career has been turned into a sympathetic figure. I’ll never forgive Selig for that. The players union is being sued because they didn’t do their job. The union doesn’t get to say “we don’t like this player, we aren’t going to defend him.” That’s essentially what it did with A-Rod. Weiner even publicly agreed that Selig could step outside the boundaries of the CBA in punishing the Biogenesis players. The union deserves to get sued. Maybe next time it’ll do it’s job.

  11. peymax1693 - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    The irony is that Gomes and the rest of the players who want to vilify A-Rod for suing them fail to see that the MLBPA did far more damage to them then A-Rod ever could when it rolled over and let Bud Selig and MLB do whatever they pleased in their attempts to punish A-Rod.

  12. braddavery - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    ‘Hey, this union we are in together didn’t have your back and you are angry about that and did something about it. I’m mad at you now!’

    Ehhh… okay.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

      Hold him back!

  13. elvin2014 - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    Alex Rodriguez could play baseball again with the new york yankees this year. Federal Court could rule in favor of A-Rod to halt his suspension….

  14. elvin2014 - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    A-Rod is FIGHTING in Federal Court his unjustified suspension at this moment….

    Where are the proofs against A-Rod , Bud Selig?

  15. mdrew75 - Jan 24, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    I’m a Yankee fan that is sick of everything A-Roid. The guy’s a disgrace. But-I’m also sick of hearing from and/or about freakin’ Jonny Gomes. The guy is a nobody- never was. Average platoon player and defensive liability. He ends up on the Red Sox, stumbles into a couple postseason hits for a World Series Champ, and now he thinks he’s some ‘star’ that anybody gives a crap about hearing his two cents? Isn’t this the same clown that kicked a beer can of an old guys forehead acting like a bone-head 20 year old frat boy? Shut up Gomes. Your 15 minutes is over. Stop pretending that anyone cares what you have to say. Another year and you’ll be lucky to get a spring invite.

    • km9000 - Jan 24, 2014 at 4:28 PM

      Do you have a candle-lit Oakland-era Gomes shrine in the corner of your room? And you’re still heartbroken and betrayed over him going to Boston?

  16. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jan 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    Does he speak for the entire Fifth Outfielder’s union, or are these just Jonny’s opinions on his own?

    P.S., you are a grownass man, stop calling yourself “Jonny.”

    • km9000 - Jan 24, 2014 at 4:22 PM

      I’m sure Carson got that all the time.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jan 25, 2014 at 8:25 PM

        Things were a little different in 1951, when Carson started his professional career. If one had said that that guys named Johnny were gay, they would have thanked you for the compliment.

  17. yahmule - Jan 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    “Don’t mess with my (expletive) kids!”

  18. musketmaniac - Jan 24, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    elvin, arod has no honor. oh and elvin please quit masturbating in your mothers closet

  19. ejannetta - Jan 24, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    LMAO! Jonny Gomes must think he is something with his BIG mouth….The guy is a BUM…he batted .247 in the regular season and .167 in the postseason…STFU!

  20. joestemme - Jan 24, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    Gomes to A-Roid: Go Fu$K yourself

  21. louhudson23 - Jan 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    The Union had his back right up until it was made clear to them that he was guilty.The Union clearly is no longer interested in shielding PED users from scrutiny or punishment. Hooray.

  22. elvin2014 - Jan 24, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Question for Bud Selig and MLB:

    Are you afraid that Alex Rodriguez will show THE TRUTH to the world in Federal Court?

  23. airedale1950 - Jan 24, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    Who told Gomes it was okay for him to open his pie hole?
    He has shut up since last week. Suddenly he has an opinion…like he has been somebody the last 7 years?

    • jimeejohnson - Jan 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM

      Who told you?

  24. vallewho - Jan 24, 2014 at 9:03 PM

    Moron Gomes doesn’t get that ARod was a member, and the union did not defend him….you know one of the precious benefits of membership.

  25. mallethead329 - Jan 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    I don’t mind any of Gomes comments about A-Rod’s PED use. But he shouldn’t bring up how this affects his family and their lifestyle. Don’t make out like your some member of a plumber’s union trying to get by. This just shows how detached these multi-million ball players are from the fans. Clueless.

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