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Buster Posey staying mum on rule changes for collisions

Jan 31, 2014, 11:10 PM EDT

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Whether he likes it or not, Giants catcher Buster Posey has become the poster child for the home plate collision controversy. In 2011, Posey was bowled over at home plate by Marlins outfielder Scott Cousins, suffering a myriad of season-ending injuries: a fractured leg and three torn ankle ligaments. Since then, other catchers have suffered — unnecessarily, some would argue — concussions and other, less severe injuries. Rule changes have been proposed, but if you’re looking for Posey’s opinion, you won’t be hearing it.

Via Andrew Baggarly of CSN Bay Area:

“I try to keep myself out of the conversation as much as I can, because I know people will connect me to it regardless,” said Posey [...]

“I’m kind of sitting back and letting the higher powers figure it out. I have my thoughts, but I’ll keep them to myself.”

Posey added that he doesn’t want it to be about him, which is respectable and admirable.

As Baggarly explains, the proposed rule changes would make hits like the one that ended Posey’s 2011 season illegal. However, any official rule changes are unlikely to be adopted in time for the beginning of the season.

  1. bubbalynch - Jan 31, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    He is going to down in history as the wuss who had the rules change because he got a boo-boo..

    • illuminancer - Jan 31, 2014 at 11:51 PM

      Tell you what: why don’t we break one of the long bones in your leg and tear out three of the ligaments in your ankle and so how you handle it?

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jan 31, 2014 at 11:58 PM

        Don’t block the plate then when the freight train is coming through

    • quintjs - Feb 1, 2014 at 12:13 AM

      If you want to watch guys get hurt, watching UFC or something. If you want to watch players getting tackled and player collisions go watch football (I believe there is game upcoming). When that is over get into Rugby, that is even more voilent, and Rugby League (a variation of rugby). There is plenty of that too,

      I want to watch guys play baseball, you know, actually pitch and hit a ball – something you don’t see elsewhere.

      The game of baseball is better when catchers are on the field, not the DL. It isn’t like they are changing massive amounts of rules and changing the game, they are taking out one aspect that probably never should have been there to begin with.

      The amount of people on this planet that enjoy things that hurt other people is quite scary. I don’t enjoy watching collisions because I don’t want to see anyone get hurt. I am not some old school hippy or anything, but why would anyone be ok when someone else get hurt, and why would a baseball fan not want to eliminate collisions to keep the best players on the field as much as possible. Baseball wasn’t better with Posey on the DL, it wasn’t better with Santana in Cleveland had a broken league. There are enough freak injuries you cannot do anything about, so lets get rid of the ones we can.

      • mlbfeces - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:28 PM

        Ray Fosse gives you a thumbs up! Pete Rose gives you a middle finger!

    • skerney - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:42 AM

      No, he’ll go down in history for this:

      2008 Golden Spikes winner
      2008 Johnny Bench Award Winner
      2010 Rookie of the Year
      2010 World Series Champion
      2012 NL Batting Title
      2012 NL MVP
      2012 Comeback Player of the Year
      2012 World Champion
      2012 Silver Slugger
      2012 Hank Aaron award

      This is a player who has only played two full seasons.

  2. nickmiller63 - Jan 31, 2014 at 11:43 PM

    Stunning level of douchebaggery on that first comment.

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Jan 31, 2014 at 11:59 PM

      The only douchebaggery going on here is that they changed the rules for a Florida State ass clown.

      • km9000 - Feb 1, 2014 at 1:58 AM

        So… once you’re old enough to leave high school, we can assume you won’t be attending FSU?

  3. dan1111 - Feb 1, 2014 at 1:36 AM

    Why not enforce the rule against catchers blocking the plate, rather than make a new rule?

    • garlicfriesandbaseball - Feb 1, 2014 at 2:01 AM

      Okay, here we go again. In case you’ve been in outer space and didn’t catch this the first 20 times, take a look at the play again. http://wp.me/pV4Gn-Xw
      It’s okay. You can apologize later …..

      • illuminancer - Feb 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM

        Link’s dead. But it’s not like it hasn’t been shown over and over and over again, and anyone who actually watched it would see that Posey was not blocking the plate. Cousins had a clear path to slide in, but he might have gotten tagged, so instead he lowered his shoulder and plowed into Posey.

      • dan1111 - Feb 1, 2014 at 3:29 AM

        I didn’t intend to blame Posey for that collision, so sorry if it sounded that way.

        But this is not about one play. Bowling over the catcher has become the norm largely because of catchers being allowed to get away with blocking the plate. This spills over into situations where the catcher is not actually blocking, because runners don’t have time to reason about the specific situation; they have to react in a fraction of a second. If interference were consistently called on catchers, then runners would have a different default behavior.

      • garlicfriesandbaseball - Feb 1, 2014 at 2:28 PM

        Oops – sorry. Here’s another link to the site: http://garlicfriesandbaseball.wordpress.com/?s=

    • paperlions - Feb 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM

      Exactly. There was never any need whatsoever to make a new rule. The catcher blocking the plate without the ball is already illegal, just like it is for any other player because there are (or, at least, there were) no special rules for home plate. In addition, running over a player in possession of the ball or any action that specifically is designed to dislodge the ball rather than to safely reach the base is already illegal, and there are (were) no special rules for home plate. The interference and obstruction rules are just fine as written and already prohibit blocking the plate without the ball or running over a defender that has the ball. All they had to do was enforce those rules at the plate just like they do at every other base.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        But this time they mean it.

  4. bbk1000 - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:14 AM

    The Buster Pansy rule………wonderful….

    • thisdamnbox - Feb 1, 2014 at 3:13 PM

      Moron…Buster didn’t campaign for change, as he respects the history of the game too much, and if anything, it had more to do with so many OTHER catchers going down and to the DL since. GMs are paying these players a fortune only to lose them to an exciting yet football-like play. Might want to call it the, “GM’s Quality Catchers Are Difficult to Find and Mine is On the DL for an Unnecessarily Violent Play Rule.” That and the fear of NFL-like litigation some day when some of these guys suffer the effects and happen to bump into an ambitious ambulance chaser…

      • bbk1000 - Feb 2, 2014 at 6:16 AM

        The Buster Pansy rule………wonderful….

  5. brewcrewfan54 - Feb 1, 2014 at 8:35 AM

    To you guys that are so against this new rule, what about a catcher getting blown up at the plate is so important to you? What does that play actually bring to the game on the fairly rare times it actually happens?

  6. historiophiliac - Feb 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Yes, baseball brass was so upset about what happened to Posey that three years later, the rule is being changed. Really? We’ve had a number of collisions since, so why don’t people attribute it to the aggregate or someone who came later? For example, Alex Avila (who is third generation baseball family — his grandfather was a scout for the Dodgers, his dad is a Tigers’ VP, and his godfather is Tommy “Death to A-Rod” Lasorda — so dude has inside baseball connections) was intentionally hit and injured in the ALCS last season, forcing him to leave a decisive game. Nah, I’m probably just being a homer there.

    • garlicfriesandbaseball - Feb 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM

      Probably because the challenge began with Bruce Bochy, Giants manager and former catcher, arguing the case immediately after the Posey collision and staying with it, even after the powers-that-be told him to drop it.

      • illuminancer - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:17 PM

        Actually, after Joe Torre said that there was no need for a rules change, Bochy did drop it. Since then, though, the NFL’s gotten all the bad press for how they handle major injuries, and maybe, just maybe, MLB figured it would be better to deal with the issue before the lawsuits started.

      • asimonetti88 - Feb 1, 2014 at 10:52 PM

        Sounds like your beef is with Bochy then.

  7. disgracedfury - Feb 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    Buster doesn’t want to say anything because it’s him who caused this problem.Buster is overrated at cathing and I can’t wait like Mauer will move to first base.

    • illuminancer - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:15 PM

      Let me guess: you’re a Cardinals fan?

    • historiophiliac - Feb 1, 2014 at 7:36 PM

      He’s not good at inserting catheters? Hooookay. Well, he is not a doctor nor — in the immortal words of Bill Cosby — even almost a doctor, so I think he’s still okay behind the plate. It’s not surgery.

  8. mlbfeces - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    I bet if you do some checking Ray Fosse is behind this rule change!

  9. ryanb1370 - Feb 2, 2014 at 3:55 AM

    Really JimmyMarlinsfan. Do you realize how stupid you sound? It could if been any catcher that got injured and had the rule changed. Your an idiot don’t be mad your team can’t make good deals.

  10. ryanb1370 - Feb 2, 2014 at 4:01 AM

    I can already tell who all the Dodgers fans are. Amazing you guys have a whole stacked lineup except for catcher. You guys would dream to have Posey any team would just like any team would want Vadier Molina as their catcher. Shut up you are just jealous that you can’t even be can’t even play the game on the same. Have some respect for players. I don’t like the dodgers, but I know god damn well that they have great ball players on their team.

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