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Report: The Mariners sign Fernando Rodney to two-year deal

Feb 6, 2014, 5:22 PM EDT

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Jonah Keri of Grantland reports that the Mariners have agreed to a two-year, $14 million deal with Fernando Rodney. The deal has incentives in it which could take it up to $15 million.

Rodney was dominant for the Rays in 2012 and saved 37 games for them in 2013 while striking out 82 batters in 66 2/3 innings. He is likely to be the M’s closer, pushing Danny Farquhar into a setup role.

All in all? Not a ton of money for a guy who should still be pretty darn effective in late innings. He could have helped a lot of teams, including the Yankees and the Orioles. But now he’s heading for Seattle.

  1. tmhofficial - Feb 6, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    So they sign Cano to a ridiculous, massive contract, then reports emerge that they’re “tapped out” financially and no further additions will be made from FA. All the while still being linked to Nelson Cruz, but were waiting for the price to dramatically decrease.

    Instead, they give $14 million to a mediocre closer. I hope this doesn’t prohibit them from signing someone like Cruz, or Rodney’s not going to have as many games to close as they’d like.

    • tuberippin - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM

      As though signing Cruz is a panacea. Even if you bring in Cruz that outfield is still not all that good (Cruz/Saunders/Ackley).

      • spudchukar - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

        First off, Rodney is hardly a “mediocre” reliever, if the past two years are any indication. No doubt he would have trouble replicating 2012, but his recent work is impressive.

        And while the outfield isn’t great, the infield is. As Hart becomes more healthy he should occupy RF. If, the decision comes down to Cruz or Rodney, the Mariners made the correct choice.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM

        First off, Rodney is hardly a “mediocre” reliever, if the past two years are any indication. No doubt he would have trouble replicating 2012, but his recent work is impressive.

        Has he been though? If my excel skills are correct, taking out that ’12 season we get:

        4.21 ERA across 166.2 IP, with a 0.43 HR/9, 5.35 BB/9, and 8.69 K/9

      • raysfan1 - Feb 6, 2014 at 8:34 PM

        Mariners fans beware, When Rodney is on, he can be unhittable and shut down anyone. If he isn’t, then no lead is safe. There is seemingly little in between with him. Always have both your popcorn and your Pepto ready.

      • spudchukar - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:52 PM

        It is a gamble. But lights out, MLB production, might appear to be an outlier, but this is where stats dudes, and “eye” dudes butt horns. I love guys outside of the “Bell Curve”, just re-insures my belief in beauty of Baseball.

  2. halladaysbicepts - Feb 6, 2014 at 5:33 PM

    Good for the Mariners. They have told their fans that they will compete with their FA signings and such. If you want to improve yourself as a team, you have to spend. Mariners are doing this.

    • raysfan1 - Feb 6, 2014 at 8:35 PM

      Welcome back, ‘cepts.

  3. dnn92202 - Feb 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    This is a good move. They still have money to spend on Cruz.

  4. missingdiz - Feb 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    That’s riverboat gambling there. Last year Rodney was good, not great. 2012 he was the closer from another planet. The five years before that he wasn’t even good by MLB standards. Sounds like the odds are 1 in 7, not taking aging into account.

    • kruegere - Feb 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

      “Sounds like the odds are 1 in 7, not taking aging into account.”

      Be honest, you didn’t take anything into account.

      • missingdiz - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM

        Honestly, I looked up his record. What more do you want?

  5. uyf1950 - Feb 6, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    All in all a decent signing be the Mariners. But lets not forget there is a reason why the Rays did not re-sign him and in my opinion that’s because of his inconsistency. When he’s good he’s good but when he’s bad which in 2013 was more often then then you would like he was bad. In 2013 he appeared in 68 games he was charged with earned runs in 20 of those 68 games, that’s a pretty high percentage.

    Also outside of marching out Hernandez and Iwakuma two of every 5 starts the Mariners haven’t done anything to address their starting pitching. And signing Cano to a 10 year / $240MM deal the Mariners really haven’t done a whole lot to address their primary weakness a lack of offense.

    Yes, Cano will help but counting on Morrison and Hart may be wishful thinking considering their recent injury and offensive performances. Yes their is still time to add players but the most talked about addition has been Nelson Cruz lately and is he really the answer considering his defense and moving from “Globe Life Park in Alrington” which is an extremely hitter friendly park for right hand hitters to Safeco even with it’s new dimension is bound to hurt Cruz’s offensive power numbers.

    Just my opinion and food for thought.

    • halladaysbicepts - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM

      Here’s some food for thought. You said:

      “In 2013 he appeared in 68 games he was charged with earned runs in 20 of those 68 games, that’s a pretty high percentage.”

      He was charged with some earned runs. God forbid! He should have an ERA of 0,00.

      Here’s the bottom line: Rodney: 66 IP, 3.38 ERA

      Give me a break with the overexposure of your opinion. It is silly and not founded on fact.

      • spudchukar - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

        Like a bad penny. Are you on probation?

      • uyf1950 - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM

        @ halladaysbicepts, actually my opinion at least in this case is based solely on the facts. Just because you don’t like the facts it doesn’t change them. Have a good day.

      • halladaysbicepts - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:03 PM

        @uyf1950

        No. The fact is that that Rodney pitched 66 IP in 2013 with and ERA of 3.38.

        But you said: “but when he’s bad which in 2013 was more often then then you would like he was bad.”

        Incorrect. Rodney is a good pitcher. You are mistaken. He has a 3.70 lifetime ERA in the AL as a reliever. That’s god-like in the AL. Live with it.

      • uyf1950 - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM

        @ halladaybicepts, It’s interesting how you keep referring to Rodney’s ERA. Since for well over a year I have read on this very site how judging a pitchers performance especially a relief pitcher by his ERA is the very worst way to evaluate their performance.

        I stand by my original comment and oh by the way I can “live with it”. Now unless you have something more to contribute to this dialog then Rodney’s ERA, have a good day.

      • happytwinsfan - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM

        uyf1950:

        i agree that era can be a very misleading stat for a reliever, but would still seem to be a pretty good indicator, albeit imperfect like all stats, for a starter.

        honestly, i’m not familiar with and am curious about the basis of this.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:46 PM

        Incorrect. Rodney is a good pitcher. You are mistaken. He has a 3.70 lifetime ERA in the AL as a reliever. That’s god-like in the AL. Live with it.

        Welcome back, good to see you picked up right where you left off in being horribly incorrect in your analysis.

        Since ’02, when Rodney came up, there’s been 256 relievers in the AL. That “godly” 3.70 ERA ranks him 112th out of 256. If we want to add some qualifiers, like set the IP base to 300, that drops the number to 52 total pitchers. Of those 52, Rodney is 36th.

        That one elite year that spud mentions above, that’s responsible for dropping his ERA from 4.17 to 3.70 all on it’s own. He walks way too many people, especially when he wasn’t striking out 10.1/9 innings when he was with TB.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

        i agree that era can be a very misleading stat for a reliever, but would still seem to be a pretty good indicator, albeit imperfect like all stats, for a starter.

        honestly, i’m not familiar with and am curious about the basis of this.

        Two big reasons, both a positive and negative for the reliever:

        Positive: CC Sabathia has horrible command, leading to him loading the bases with no outs. In comes Shawn Kelley who proceeds to give up a grand slam to the first hitter. He then strikes out the next two and gets a ground ball to the statue, I mean Jeter, to end the inning. Kelley’s ERA: 1.00

        Negative: Because they pitch so few innings, one bad outing can have a skewed perspective on ERA unless you pitch a bunch of perfect innings. Its like the old cliche our high school math teachers would tell us: It takes something like 10 perfect tests to bring your average up to a 90 if you get a zero on one.

      • happytwinsfan - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM

        thanks church

        i guess i kinda of get it. if a starter, like sabbathia has a tendency to leave behind a mess, a reliever might bail him out in a way which leaves his era looking better then it should be. however, alternatively, if a pitcher like sabbathia happens to pitch for a team with a weak pen the opposite might happen.

        bottom line, playing for a good team tends to make your stats look good, for a bad team – bad. there’s gonna have to be some awful powerful spreadsheets going on before that gets scrunched out.

        how about this as a measure of a starter’s worth: the percentage of the time that his team wins on the day he starts, and to a somewhat lesser but still significant extent, the percentage of times his team wins the day after he starts ( tired bullpen or rested bullpen?) as compared to the percentage of times his team wins overall.

      • raysfan1 - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 AM

        COPO,
        1 earned run in 1 inning is of course an ERA of 9.00, not 1.00.

        Let’s therefore change your example just a little:
        The starter leaves with the bases loaded with none out. The reliever comes in an promptly gives up a bases clearing double. He then strikes out two and gets a ground out to end the inning. 3 runs scored but the reliever’s ERA is 0.00

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 7, 2014 at 9:09 AM

        thanks raysfan1, I’d like to say I meant to add other stuff in to make the ERA 1.00 legit, but I just screwed up.

        @happytwinsfan

        It’s just why you have to be careful about reliever ERA because it’s so volatile. I’d be weary of both extremely high ERAs and extremely low one’s. I remember David Robertson had one year, 2011, where he had a 1.08 ERA over 66.2 IP. It could have been entirely different but he had done something absurd like 1-27 with the bases loaded. So you know that kind of luck/skill isn’t going to hold going forward.

      • moogro - Feb 7, 2014 at 3:41 PM

        How baseball attributes ERA is troubling.

    • Reflex - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

      Cruz is not the answer unless he comes very cheap, and even then he’s not the answer although he may be a better DH option than others. Hart I think has a good chance at a bounce back, if he’s 80% of what he was in 2012 he is the equal offensively of both Morales and Ibanez put together.

      I think the assumption on pitching is that Walker has a full season and that it will be above average. If Hultzen also fills in at a #4 level they will be in good shape with Baker as their #5(he should benefit from the park). I really don’t think pitching will be their problem.

      I think at this point the M’s should be looking for offense in a trade. Its too bad the Marlins backed themselves into a corner about not dealing Stanton, a deal there could make a ton of sense for both teams, the M’s have the farm system and young infielders the Marlins need.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:43 PM

        This team is gonna be so random.

      • Reflex - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

        I feel the same way. Either this is going to be some sort of magic where it all clicks, or it’ll be a unholy mess. I really feel they should have got one more big bat, specifically an outfielder like Granderson or Kemp, and in an ideal world a #2 level pitcher rather than Baker.

      • spudchukar - Feb 6, 2014 at 10:05 PM

        Historio, IMHO, this is your most astute comment to date. Not dissin’ others, just championing your assessment. No team is harder to predict, coming 2014. They could win 90 or lose 90. But I like youth, somehow it is more interesting.

      • Rick Cosmo - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM

        so do the Red Sox..

    • spudchukar - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:39 PM

      UYF, my friend, let me point out the inaccuracies. Paxton and Walker are the guys the Mariners are “addressing” in their rotation, which makes their starting 5 superior to the Yanks.

      As you pointed out Morrison and Hart are recovering from injuries, but Hart doesn’t have a significant history of injury, and once recovered, will be a better RF than Beltran, although not by a lot.

      Your assessment of Cruz is right on. I am not in favor of his signing to the Washington squad. His success in Texas is aided by the stadium. To make a move because they couldn’t consummate a deal for Price, or landing Tanaka, should not compel them to make the move for Cruz.

      As odd as this may seem, Franklin would most likely contribute as much as Cruz, even if he is inserted into the DH position, as peculiar as that position would be for the 22 year old.

      • uyf1950 - Feb 6, 2014 at 11:22 PM

        @ spudchukar, I’m not sure I understand why you insist on comparing any of the Mariners players to players on the Yankees roster. The Mariners are NOT in competition with the Yankees or vice-versa. But if you think that comparison of yours makes the Mariners and more likely to overtake the A’s, Rangers and even the Angels have at it.

        Just to address your comparison, since you brought it up. The only thing you can say with certainly is that the top 2 starters Hernandez and Iwakuma are better than CC and Kuroda. Although Iwakuma lacks any real track record unless you consider 49 career MLB starts a track record. After that everything else you’ve stated is pure speculation. Including the Hart will be better than Beltran conclusion.

        I guess that what’s “hot stove” is about, speculating what might be. Have a good day.

  6. elvin2014 - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Fernando Rodney is one of the best closers in the big leagues….

    • zzalapski - Feb 7, 2014 at 9:10 AM

      He’s in the top 30, for sure.

  7. elvin2014 - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

    Seattle Mariners next big sign….

    Nelson Cruz?

  8. elvin2014 - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Seattle Mariners could win easily the west division this year….

    • clydeserra - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:30 PM

      west division of what?

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        PCL?

      • elvin2014 - Feb 6, 2014 at 8:59 PM

        MLB American League West Division

  9. elvin2014 - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Yessssssss….Good sign!….Good sign!….

  10. texasrug - Feb 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    I don’t think anyone will have a easy time winning the west

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  12. slaugin - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    Rodney is not good

  13. slaugin - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    1.34 WHIP is not good

  14. slaugin - Feb 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    41/18 K/Walk Ratio is not good

  15. pyleketerson - Feb 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    I love it when people compile stats and then must take out a player’s best year just to prove a point. That is invalid. If you insist on taking out his best year, then at least listen to that little voice of reason and take out his worst.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM

      No it’s not. It’s trying to find out the man’s true talent level when one year is so far off the Z-score that it’s almost laughable. However, to prove a point, let’s eliminate both the best and worst years, and we get: [note i removed two bad years, since the one with a 6+ ERA wasn't a full season]

      3.97 ERA, 0.72 HR/9, 4.68 BB/9, 8.29 K/99

      That’s roughly league average for ERA and less than a 2:1 K/BB

  16. pyleketerson - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    While judging a great year as “laughable” is disrespectful in my opinion, I do commend you on the revised numbers. Look at the walk ratio! That stands out more than anything. ERA is “meh” and the K’s are certainly there, but man the inconsistency shines with the BB’s. Thanks.

  17. Fantasy Football Consultant - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Can’t he at least straighten the direction of his lid?

  18. doctorofsmuganomics - Feb 6, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    Better you than me

    Signed: every team not located in washington

  19. cur'68 - Feb 6, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    Its not the NL, but is not the AL Beast either. I can wish ‘Nando well from afar, excepting the few times he will face My Boys. Good luck to him. He’s a nice enough guy and isn’t above looking a bit silly to get a laugh. I hope the Great Plantain in the Sky looks after him.

    • historiophiliac - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:05 AM

      toot

  20. doctornature - Feb 6, 2014 at 11:42 PM

    @Church re: Kelly gives up a slam to his first batter and then retires the side…pitching one inning and giving up one run.

    That equates to a 9.00 ERA…not a 1.0 ERA

  21. therooneyskilledwebster - Feb 6, 2014 at 11:59 PM

    Well he’s no Mike Schooler but he’ll do.

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