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Michael Young shows class

Feb 11, 2014, 11:31 AM EDT

Michael Young dugout

And brains. And an enlightened outlook. And, unlike most other times, I mean this 100% sincerely.

Young was asked on 103.3FM in Dallas about how the teams he played for would handle a gay teammate. For Young it would have been no issue at all. Because he knows that, in all statistically likelihood, he has already had a gay teammate. And if he had one that was out, well, it wouldn’t matter:

I guarantee you I’ve had a gay teammate,” Young said. “This may be the first openly gay player in the NFL, but clearly we know there have been tons in every sport — male, female, there have been tons in every sport.

“We just don’t know about them or who they are. They’re out there right now. They’re out there in the NBA, in the NHL, in the big leagues and in the NFL. Hopefully players are just comfortable being themselves.”

For Young it would have been all about whether the guy could play or not. How refreshing to hear.

  1. cackalackyank - Feb 11, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    I have felt this guy had class for quite awhile. It was one of the reasons I was kind of hoping he would sign with the NYY. He showed that class again when he decided to retire, instead of running his numbers into the ground while taking a paycheck. Here he shows class, and quite a bit of common sense. Both qualities all too rare these days.

  2. durno99 - Feb 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    Class is accepting ones peaceful opinion! Class is not accepting yours……..,

    • wpjohnson - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:08 PM

      Let the homosexuals act as they please. Just don’t ram their behavior down the throats of the rest of us. Let the morons start their thumbs downs.

      • El Bravo - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

        You used “homosexual” and “ram…down the throats” in adjacent sentences. Now I can’t stop thinking about gay sex. Thanks a lot, guy.

      • cohnjusack - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM

        How exactly do homosexuals ram their behavior down their throats? As far as I can tell, this is the excuse people use to deny them “behaviors” such as civil rights and not hiding the fact that they are gay.

      • jonevans511 - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM

        Same should be said of straight men & women. I don’t need or want to see folks on Twitter talking about how much pu$$ they crush/ dyck they suck. Frankly this behavior by heterosexuals is much more prevalent in society than homosexuals “ramming their behavior down the throats of the rest of us”. But smoke & mirrors have allowed the anti-gay crowd to cloud our vision by making it seem as though every gay person flaunts their sexuality. Which is laughable considering many homosexuals do the exact opposite and hide their sexuality…..for fear of ostracism from the same community that flaunts their sexuality endlessly. But because one is a “sin” and another “normal/natural”, not enough people call out fellow heteros. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

      • paperlions - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

        Right, because their repeated requests to be treated equal to heterosexuals have been met with wide acceptance. Do you really not realize that heterosexual behavior is rammed down everyone’s throats all day every day, in advertising, on TV shows, just a constant barrage of heterosexualness…..but somehow being exposed to homosexual behavior from time to time gets your panties in twist?

      • 18thstreet - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:50 PM

        It’s always about things being rammed down throats. ALWAYS.

      • Old Gator - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

        Well, I think Mr. “Johnson” (guffaw) has exposed himself, as it were, with this Freudian expression about having something rammed down his throat. Although I don’t doubt that there are significant components of simple ignorance and stupidity to his homophobia, I suspect that there’s also some good old American puritanical body horror operating here, perhaps a horror at his own latency knocking from the downstairs side of his heavily padlocked mental basement door. Listen, JP, it’s nothing to be ashamed of. Come out to yourself and your paranoia will begin to ease.

      • Old Gator - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:01 PM

        WP, that is….

  3. karlkolchak - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    Hopefully, someday soon gay athletes will be so well accepted by their teammates that they won’t have to make any sort of public announcment.

    • largebill - Feb 11, 2014 at 4:48 PM

      Maybe I missed something, but who exactly is making people make public announcements about anything?

      There was a football player recently fined for not talking to the press, but that was for not talking to them at all and presumably unrelated to any personal decisions.

      • Old Gator - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:06 PM

        I imagine he was talking about Michael Sam’s public announcement that he was gay. What’s making Sam announce it – and what will make others announce it, eventually – is the repressive cultural environment that intimidates them into silence, and which requires going public in order to attack it and bring it down. A few such declarations now, a period of toxic blather from the ignorant, and voila, it shouldn’t be necessary any more. Let’s hope that time arrives soon.

  4. garypagetwo - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:10 PM

    oh look. another story about Gays

    • jonevans511 - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM

      How is different than the stories about athletes/celebs getting married/divorced/caught cheating? IF YOU DON’T CARE, NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO READ ARTICLES RELATED TO THE TOPIC YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT. If you want to whine about it, start a hetero-blog that blasts the media for it’s coverage of a culturally significant issue. I’m not trying to be a dick either- you have various platforms to voice your displeasure, but the comment section of an article whose very premise is something you’re tired of is probably not the best place.

      Maybe if people opened their eyes and realized gay men & women aren’t going to magically turn the whole world gay, we’d stop seeing these kinds of articles because homosexuality would become an afterthought. Until then this is a very relevant topic and you very well may be one of the reasons why people feel the need to bring it up in the media….Not saying you are, but in the world today you can’t pee standing up without someone questioning you or your motives.

      • ltzep75 - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM

        Well, to be fair, and without commenting on the subject matter of the article, the headline was not necessarily and indication of what, exactly, Michael Young was demonstrating class and open-mindedness.

        Me thinks the lady doth protest too much (in this instance).

      • wpjohnson - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:11 PM

        Lots of rather queer responses, don’t you think?

      • karlkolchak - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

        Is that getting your johnson all hot and bothered there, wp?

      • Old Gator - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:09 PM

        Yes, WP, lots of them. Queers are everywhere. Hiding in the back seat of your car. Under your bed. In your closet. Peeking down at you from your showerhead. Whispering from your subconscious that, as self-hateful as you try to be, there’s no escape from your inner queer They’re all around you. And some day, they’re going to make you like they are. Muahahahahaha!

  5. cur'68 - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM

    Well would you look at that. Mike Young didn’t drop that ball? Nice.
    /hat tip

    • stex52 - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:24 PM

      My thinking, too Cur. No doubt he’s a good guy. I just don’t want him playing on my infield.

  6. yordo - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:56 PM

    Craig is desperately looking for ways to promote NBC’s homosexual agenda. Stick to baseball. A-Rod still needs your love during these trying times.

    • stex52 - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:12 PM

      NBC’s homosexual agenda? I think you are suffering from acute FOX poisoning.

    • karlkolchak - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM

      They way you seem to be obsesseing about a rod make me think you’re a bit repressed.

      • Old Gator - Feb 11, 2014 at 6:14 PM

        There’s a lot of that going on here today, Nightstalker. Ted Haggard. Larry Craig. Glenn Murphy Jr. Roy Cohn. All famous closet queer or bisexual homophobes. Here’s a great article on “repressed” homosexuality from that bastion of the LGBT Agenda, the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html?_r=0

    • miketreedy - Feb 11, 2014 at 9:20 PM

      This is the way the media handles these stories. If Michael Young had been very respectful but said there are real issues of having a gay player in the locker room (which most players feel) then he is bullied and called names from the left media for his hateful views on gays. Since Craig agrees with Michael Young’s view his answer “shows class”. That’s why good journalism is sadly dead in this country. Not to confuse Craig of course of being a real journalist but he has learned this trick well from others in the media.

  7. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    Wait, were Ozzie and Omar gay? Did Ozzie and Omar make Michael Young move off of SS because they were gay or something? Should I be ramming something down my throat. I am so confused by the progress of this comment thread. Can someone please post the instructions for all of this???

    • Professor Fate - Feb 11, 2014 at 5:28 PM

      Instructions not understood. Rammed dick down throat.

  8. zzalapski - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Apparently, Ozzie’s and Omar’s ranges carry over to baseball blog comments as well.

  9. Gamera the Brave - Feb 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM

    Most.
    Schizophrenic.
    Comment.
    Thread.
    Ever.

    No it isn’t!

  10. President Charles Logan - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Leviticus 18:22
    “You shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, it is an abomination”

    • historiophiliac - Feb 11, 2014 at 10:26 PM

      Aren’t men who lie the worst? Sigh.

  11. President Charles Logan - Feb 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Leviticus 18:22
    “You shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, it is an abomination

    • historiophiliac - Feb 11, 2014 at 10:29 PM

      Totally why I don’t eat shellfish.

    • Old Gator - Feb 12, 2014 at 1:19 AM

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you.
      Ezekiel 25:17

      • abaird2012 - Feb 12, 2014 at 9:57 AM

        Sam Jackson is dreamy …

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Feb 12, 2014 at 11:32 AM

      Leviticus 19:18
      “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.”

      Also, from 19:19:
      “‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.”
      So you and your polyester-blends are sinners!

      That is more of a survival manual for a nearly lawless desert clan from 7,000 years ago. It is OK to update your thinking now.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM

      Don’t ever quote the bible again regarding homosexuality unless you want to look like a fool:

  12. Kevin Gillman - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

    That’s alright, Craig doesn’t think Ozzie deserved to be a Hall of Famer too, so when Omar goes in, at some point, he will bitch about it too.

  13. cohnjusack - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    I DO think Ozzie deserves to go and will so bitch if Vizquel goes in.

    Ozzie: 76.5 WAR
    Omar: 45.4 WAR

  14. nbjays - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Aren’t you on the wrong thread with this post? The “Visquel and Farrell” thread is THAT way ——> http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/11/john-farrell-and-omar-vizquel-dont-like-each-other-very-much/

  15. paperlions - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    That is very narrow minded of you. Just because Ozzie was a better much defender, a much better hitter, and much better base runner doesn’t mean that he was a much better player.

  16. thomas844 - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    Ozzie certainly is the better overall player, but Omar was actually a better hitter than Ozzie. He had a career .272 average, slugged .352, and had a .688 OPS compared to Ozzie’s .262 average, .328 slugging, and .666 OPS. Plus, Vizquel averaged more homers and doubles per season.

    While Ozzie was an overall better player, I still think Vizquel deserves the Hall of Fame. Close to 3,000 hits and 11 Gold Gloves, plus he was a staple for those dynamic Indians teams of the 90s.

  17. paperlions - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    No, he wasn’t a better hitter, he played in a higher offense environment (thus the significantly higher wRC+ for Ozzie than for Omar, which adjusts for variation in scoring environment, league and park effects).

  18. zzalapski - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    No, he wasn’t.

    Ozzie: 87 OPS+, 47.9 oWAR
    Omar: 82 OPS+, 32.3 oWAR

    Part of the disparity in oWAR is due to Ozzie being a much better baserunner (580/148 vs. 404/167 SB/CS), but, at the least, there is nothing conclusive about Omar being a better hitter.

  19. jwbiii - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    thomas, You’re not adjusting the offensive numbers for context. Vizquel played the prime of his career in a better hitting era. Smith has him beat in OPS+ 87-82.

  20. Kevin Gillman - Feb 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    I’m sorry about that. Sometimes I click on one subject, post, and for some reason it posts on another subject. So yes. My apologies.

  21. sportsfan18 - Feb 11, 2014 at 2:07 PM

    Neither of them could hit. A league average OPS+ is 100. They were both well below that.

    Allan Trammel’s OPS+ is 110

    Trammel should have been in the HOF long ago.

    bWAR 67.1

    JAWS 55.2

    Among all those who logged at least 7,500 career plate appearances and spent at least half their games at shortstop, Trammell ranks 10th with an OPS+ of 110.

    In terms of offensive bWAR, Trammell ranks 10th all-time among primary shortstops.

    Now for DEFENSE

    He was also one of the best defensive shortstops ever. In defensive bWAR, he ranks 10th all-time among primary shortstops.

    There are currently 22 shortstops in the HOF. Trammel, both offensively and defensively is better than half of them.

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