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Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez isn’t impressing anyone in Phillies camp

Feb 21, 2014, 4:42 PM EDT

Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez

His John Cleese impression appears to be spot on, but Cuban right-hander Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez, who the Phillies signed to a $12 million contract last summer, is not impressing anyone in Clearwater.

Jim Salisbury of has the report, from Ryne Sandberg’s less-than-enthusiastic comments about Gonzalez’s bullpen sessions to others’ observations about Gonzalez’s stuff and control.

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro told reporters last fall that scouts viewed Gonzalez as a potential No. 2 or 3 starter down the road. Salisbury’s report suggests he is unlikely to even make the rotation.

  1. karlkolchak - Feb 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    “My name is Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez…you took my rotation spot…prepare to die.”

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Feb 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM

      Well done!

  2. jpash42 - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Everything I have read about him says he has barely pitched competitive baseball in nearly two years. The Phils pretty much expected him to start in Triple A. Not really a surprise he isn’t impressive in his first week of pro ball. Again Craig…u duuumb

    • doctorofsmuganomics - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:52 PM

      At least Craig can spell out “you”. So who’s really the dumb one

      • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM

        Not to mention that Craig is playing on Amaro’s overconfidence last season. jpash42 need to learn how to read as well as to transcend Twitterspeak, which is really just a form of digital Ebonics.

      • tuberippin - Feb 21, 2014 at 8:26 PM

        ^Except Ebonics (AAVE) is an accepted dialect, and “Twitterspeak” is not.

        And using the term “ebonics” comes off a little…well, let’s go with disdainful.

      • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:20 PM

        Disdainful works, despite the fact that I capitalized the “E” as a matter of professional discourse. Ebonics is just a lousy, lazy excuse for English with a political correctness pedigree. The notion that it’s some sort of folk expression of “subalterity” or any other “postcolonial” shibboleth is manure. As far as whether it’s an “accepted dialect” or not, by whom? Even Black educators cringe at it (largely because they understand it’s just a codification in demotic speech of someone’s refusal to get or be educated themselves). The jury is so far out on that that the selection process hasn’t even begun yet.

        But let’s revisit this issue of disdain for a moment, understanding (and appreciating) that you were being polite by using the term. Gwendolyn Brooks was the first black woman to win the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry (1950), was Poet Laureate of Illinois and Poet Laureate Consultant in Poetry to the Library of Congress. She was utterly disdainful of Ebonics, though at the time this particular form of lousy English hadn’t received its respectable-sounding name yet. She saw it, as I do (wherein inheres the reason for our shared disdain of it) that it was emblematic of a lifestyle of intellectual and moral lethargy and that oddly self-aggrandizing hubris one may affect as pride in one’s own ignorance. One of her most famous poems was “We Real Cool:”

        The Pool Players.
        Seven at the Golden Shovel.

        We real cool. We
        Left school. We

        Lurk late. We
        Strike straight. We

        Sing sin. We
        Thin gin. We

        Jazz June. We
        Die soon.

  3. dondada10 - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    Worst shape of his life?

  4. natstowngreg - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Dunno, doesn’t look all that impressive for a silly walk. Might not qualify for a grant from the ministry.

  5. jamaicanjasta - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Randomly, he looks a LOT like Encino Man from Generation Kill.

  6. mikhelb - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    i watched him pitch last year when he was being showcased in games for scouts and he wasn’t all that good. His fastball doesn’t move and is in the low 90s occassionally hitting 94-95 mph; his curve was good, his control was good but he was playing in an ‘instructional’ league (the team now is in the mexican summer league, regarded as above AAA). He helped his team get to the finals but they lost. There were players who i saw were better and more polished but they are not cubans so scouts don’t pay attention to them. One of kids was a very good catcher with power and can hit for average, on top of that his throw is very good and has a cannon of a throw to the bases… and he was only 17 years old (and two other kids who signed by the dodgers, one a CF with speed and good arm, hits for average but no power, the other a P with a quick delivery and good fastball).

  7. echech88 - Feb 21, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Why is there not a reality show that follows Ruben Amaro around everywhere

    • yahmule - Feb 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM

      Ruben doesn’t meet the intellectual standard to appear on Hillbilly Handfishin’.

      • recoveringcubsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 8:12 PM

        There’s already a show about people who are hurtling towards disaster and taking everyone they know and love with them, eventually ending up ruined, devastated, and hopeless. It’s called “Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo.” Amaro’s show would basically be exactly like that, with the only difference being that he will not die of hyper-diabetes, probably.

  8. leylandshospicenurse - Feb 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Marlins screwed that one up

    • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 7:35 PM

      It’s too easy to say that, since the Feesh have a tendency to screw everything up. In this particular case, however, they got it right – though, most likely, by default.

  9. jpash42 - Feb 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Please don’t get me started on Craig’s spelling and proofreading skills or lack of. Doctorofsmug…You duuuuumb ; )

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 21, 2014 at 7:29 PM

      Please don’t get me started on Craig’s spelling and proofreading skills[SIC] or lack of[SIC]. Doctorofsmug[SIC]…[SIC]You[SIC] duuuuumb[SIC] ; )[SIC]


      • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM

        Yeah, that’s one sic puppy.

    • doctorofsmuganomics - Feb 21, 2014 at 7:42 PM

      Using “u” instead of “you” isn’t spelling or proofreading. It’s being a lazy jackhole and I for one will not tolerate it.

      And that’s Mister Doctorofsmug to you, sonny.

    • lanflfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:06 PM

      I sure hope the narcissistic Twit-head flirtation ends soon, most Americans are damaged enough without it.

      • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:24 PM

        We have several self-congratulatory practitioners of that debased mode of communication here. Some even have suggested that it’s a sign of progress. But what the hell, there are some astrophysicists who think we should look at entropy the same way.

  10. recoveringcubsfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    Seems like there are at least 3 teams that missed the mark with Cuban players in the last few years – the Marlins haven’t gotten much praise for Hechavarria (he couldn’t hit himself with a bat and his defense polarizes people between “great range” and “average at best”); The Dodgers have gone overboard to get Guerrero for 2B and maybe now Erisbel Arrue…Arrueba… ah heck with it. Erisbel the SS. And now the Phillies paid a lot for this guy and one wonders how these teams became so convinced they needed to sign these players, when as soon as people lay eyes on them they go, “damn. That money is toast.”

    Any theories?

    • chill1184 - Feb 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM

      To me it just seems like the general crap shoot that is getting international free agents who haven’t been tested against MLB quality players

    • lanflfan - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:12 PM

      Overreact much?

      Considering Gonzalez was signed last summer, Guerrero signed this winter and Arruebarruena just signed this week, plus all three have just started their first spring training with their respective clubs, it is far too early to call anyone a bust.

    • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 11:29 PM

      The Marlins didn’t sign Hechavarria. They acquired him in a trade with the Feather Lice. Their resident, more or less home grown Cuban exile hero is El Keed. And you can hardly say they messed up with that signing.

  11. scatterbrian - Feb 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM

    Perhaps this current group of Phillies has more of an Upright Citizen’s Brigade sensibility.

  12. grnthghs - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    Remember this is Craig Calcaterra another Tim Boyle with their glasses half empty. I heard Gonzalez had good stuff from hitters commenting elsewhere. I guess we should wait and see Tim, I mean Craig. Hard to tell since you both spew so much negativity.

    • Old Gator - Feb 21, 2014 at 10:25 PM

      Craig’s just reporting what other correspondents from the Phillies camp reported, speaking of spewing negativity.

      • demstinkinbums - Feb 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM

        Gator you seem like an intelligent guy, but defending Craig??? Really??? You can’t honestly say (and maybe not in this particular story) that Craig does not have some sort of agenda or bias regarding the Phillies… Come on man!

      • demstinkinbums - Feb 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM

        Plus… I too have read stories quoting Phillies hitters with positive reports. It’s not difficult to find counter balance as any “respectable” journalist should try to include. Craig clearly has no interest in supplying anything remotely positive in his articles about the Phillies.

      • Old Gator - Feb 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM

        Of course Craig has an agenda when reporting about the Feelies, but he gleefully admits to it and delights in the indignation he engenders. He’s also written very warmly and even affectionately about some of them – especially Charlie Manuel. Craig’s Feelies agenda is rooted in his Braves fanboydome (lovers of neologisms, take note) and has always been an open book. The insinuation that he’s trying to blacken the name of Miguel Gonzalez is silly. Again, he’s just relaying a story about how the team’s scouts and front orifice people have evaluated this guy, and reminding us that RAJ – who by and large seems to come in for a lot more blagging on this site from Feelies fans than anyone else, Craig included – was touting this guy as the emerging cotter pin on the rotation last summer. He’s having fun with his meme. He lets his correspondents beat it to death for him.

    • angrytwitterguy - Feb 22, 2014 at 11:10 AM

      I bet you’re the type that blames Fox or CNN for the content of the news

      • demstinkinbums - Feb 22, 2014 at 11:20 AM

        Yeh neither one of those news outlets who any bias or slant to their stories either… Just the facts (ahem)

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