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Johan Santana had trouble topping 80 miles per hour

Feb 25, 2014, 3:38 PM EDT

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Johan Santana held a workout for seven teams today and George King of the New York Post has some details that make it sound like things didn’t go particularly well for the rehabbing left-hander.

King reports that Santana “topped out” at 81 miles per hour and was throwing mostly in the high-70s. Prior to his latest shoulder surgery Santana averaged 88.4 mph on his fastball and in his prime he threw in the low-90s.

Santana hasn’t been healthy and effective since 2010 and hasn’t pitched in the majors at all since mid-2012, so at age 35 it’s hard to imagine any teams viewing him as anything more than a flier for the second half.

On the other hand, for whatever it’s worth Santana tweeted this after today’s workout:

  1. zzalapski - Feb 25, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    However good you feel, Johan, you may want to call Tim Wakefield if you want to extend your career. That killer changeup means bupkis in the majors if you can’t top 80 regularly.

  2. jfk69 - Feb 25, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Johan was trying his new pitch. The knuckle curve. Softball league interested.

  3. tn16 - Feb 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    My HS team starters average about the same if not higher MPH

  4. bobulated - Feb 25, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    One word; “knuckleball”

    • karlkolchak - Feb 25, 2014 at 4:43 PM

      Yeah, because it is so easy to learn how to control and throw one there are dozens of guys doing it.

      • bobulated - Feb 25, 2014 at 5:22 PM

        Great sense of humor you have there Karl, bet you’re a riot at parties.

      • byjiminy - Feb 26, 2014 at 7:33 AM

        wow, two witticisms in the same thread!!!!

  5. cackalackyank - Feb 25, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    I guess the question is, how long has he been back to throwing? Also, I guess it depends on whether he is expected to get more velocity and can he stay healthy for awhile. As long as he is not looking for any kind of big guaranteed numbers I’m sure he will find a taker. Especially if he projects to get back into the high 80’s by June/July.

    • asimonetti88 - Feb 25, 2014 at 6:53 PM

      You don’t need to be a scorcher to survive. I doubt Jamie Moyer was much faster than what Santana was throwing today even in his prime. I think the control would have been a more important factor to watch.

      • ptfu - Feb 25, 2014 at 7:30 PM

        There’s another way to survive without the heat…

  6. dondada10 - Feb 25, 2014 at 5:19 PM

    Everybody suggesting the knuckleball as an alternative is way off base. It would take years in the minors to master it. Look at R.A. Dickey. He converted himself to a knuckleballer but master it in the minors before re-emerging with the Mets in 2010.

  7. realgone2 - Feb 25, 2014 at 6:04 PM

  8. thebadguyswon - Feb 25, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    Sad. Nice career, but he’s toast.

  9. themuddychicken - Feb 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    Ugh, he was by far one of my favorite players. He absolutely had the stuff for an HOF career, I wish the health and longevity had been there too. I hope he at least has something left in the tank.

  10. theeperspective - Feb 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    Did the scouts tell him??? Poor guy. Reminds me of Talladega Nights when Ricky Bobby is driving 5 mph around the track, thinking he’s going 200 mph.

  11. dirtyharry1971 - Feb 26, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    another good match for the bluejays, he would fit in perfectly with RA and Buehrle as neither one of them can throw any harder either

  12. dfj79 - Feb 26, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    “Santana hasn’t been healthy and effective since 2010”

    He was healthy and very effective in the first half of 2012. Through June (his first 16 starts) he had a 2.76 ERA and had struck out nearly a batter an inning. It was only in his last five starts, in July and August, that the wheels fell off (33 runs in 19 innings). Before that he looked like he was well on his way to Comeback Player of the Year. His final ERA really obscures how good he was in most of the games he pitched that season.

  13. yordo - Feb 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    I love this kid’s positive attitude! He’s going to be a great one.

  14. musketmaniac - Feb 27, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Arm strength will improve, scouts said he looked good.

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