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Ian Kinsler hopes Rangers go 0-162, calls GM a “sleazeball”

Mar 4, 2014, 10:31 AM EDT

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Ian Kinsler isn’t happy about the way things shook down in Texas, though he comes off far worse than anyone there in an ESPN The Magazine piece posted today.

Kinsler, traded from Texas to Detroit for Prince Fielder over the winter, called Rangers GM Jon Daniels a “sleazeball” who “got in good with the owners and straight pushed [former Rangers CEO Nolan] Ryan out.” He was and still is upset that Michael Young was traded in Dec. 2012 in part because it created a leadership void that he had no interest in filling himself.

“I was bogged down,” Kinsler said. “They wanted me to lead these young players, teach them the way to compete, when the only thing I should be worried about is how I’m performing in the game.”

Kinsler showed just how interested he was in leading when he declined to move to first base to make room for top prospect Jurickson Profar at second base after the 2012 season. That decision, as much as anything else, sealed his fate in Texas.

Daniels was also quoted about the article, but he declined to criticize Kinsler, even after being told of the “sleazeball” comment. “I’m not going to justify that,” he says. “He was a key member of the best teams in the history of the franchise. He’s entitled to his opinion.”

Kinsler, of course, says he’s rededicated himself since the trade. He’s lost 15 pounds, and he intends to show more range at second base. You know, the kind of thing he wasn’t interested in doing for the team that gave him a five-year, $75 million contract in the first place. “To be honest with you, I hope they go 0-162,” Kinsler said. “I got friends, and I love my friends, but I hope they lose their ass.”


Update: Backtracking Tuesday at the Tigers complex, Kinsler said his comments about about Daniels were taken out of context and that the 0-162 thing was meant as a joke. He called the ESPN The Magazine piece “a story written for drama.

133 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. infieldhit - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM

    A-Rod vs the Yankees all over again. Not a fan of either party, just sit back and watch the fireworks.

  2. barrybondsisthealltimehomerunking - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    It’s refreshing to hear an actual opinion from a player, I wish more guys would speak their minds.

    • karlkolchak - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

      Speaking their mind is one thing, but Kinsler just sound like a whiny little biatch here. I’m sure his former teammates are thrilled to hear that he hopes they lose every game just because he is angry at Rangers management. That comment makes him sound like the epitome of self-centeredness.

      • infieldhit - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        Considering Barry Bonds’ enthusiasm for helping out teammates, he probably sees nothing wrong with Kinsler’s comments.

      • realist2014 - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:28 PM

        Yes there are sour grapes but how often are we told to “bottle it all in”? I agree I find it refreshing to hear someone speak what is on their mind. He is not saying the worst thing but as a slighted “employee” I find it humorous – and tend to agree with him concerning the GM.

    • drewsylvania - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:43 PM

      If this is what comes out when players speak their minds, I’d rather they all sounded like Jeter.

  3. lazylightning70 - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    i am a life long ranger fan and i agree with Ian..JD is a sleazeball…Ian is correct that JD is all about himself and i dont doubt for a minute that they forced Nolan out…I wish Ian well…i am glad we got prince in the deal but profar is not ready for prime time..mark my words…hes still very young so who knows what the future holds but for now a .241 avg doesnt bode well for a leadoff hitter

    • beefytrout - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM

      there’s 29 other bandwagons you can go jump on then.

      • lazylightning70 - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:40 AM

        if you think i am a fair weather fan you are nuts..i have been a fan of the rangers since the early 70’s..yes JD has built a decent team but i do not like his attitude..and where is the pitching..besides Yu we have a bunch of spares..we will need 10 runs a game to be competitive…so why dont you go jump on a band wagon and bring me back some pitchers because JD obviously wont

      • zzalapski - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:48 AM

        If the GM of my favorite team has overseen three playoff appearances in the last four years (including two trips to the World Series), I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass what his attitude is.

      • beefytrout - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM

        give me one example of JD’s “bad” attitude.

    • justinwolf13 - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

      leadoff?? Choo will be bating leadoff sir, Profar will probably be 8(btw, 241 would be ok for a 8 hole hitter) with Martin 9.
      Bash JD all you want too, I have had some problems with what hes done, mainly the Young thing. However, it was JD who built the team, who went to back to back world series…..the bandwagon fans can “hate on jd” all they want too because they are spoiled. When you’re actually a rangers fan and had to deal with the crappy seasons all the while, you are thankful for people like JD

      • lazylightning70 - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:56 AM

        i am not hating on JD..i am just saying he is a egomaniac…calling a spade a spade..anybody that disses nolan ryan is trash in my book…yes i am glad he spent some money and got us a competitive team..but we have choked the last to seasons big time…the players looked like they it wash’s fault??….or do they realize they are playing for a douchebag

      • beefytrout - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:24 PM

        lazylightning’s post is what is wrong with the vast majority of Rangers fans. They deify Nolan Ryan, and would readily accept a third place finish year in and year out as long as it meant that they kept running the 2011 roster out there every year, and that Nolan was president and GM of the team.

        It’s “JD vs Nolan” with them, and obviously Nolan Ryan can do no wrong in the eyes of the masses in Arlington. It’s not “Nolan tried to strip JD of some of his GM duties”, it’s “JD is an egomaniac who ran a baseball legend out of town.”

      • Jonestein - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:49 PM

        @beefytrout – Spot on. I encounter these people all the time and it’s the same, tiresome BS. Nolan Ryan built this team blahblahblah legend.. blahblahblah.. JohnBoy..blahblah..GitSumPitchinUpInHere….Derp…Herp…Derp

      • jdmcguire2003 - Mar 4, 2014 at 7:26 PM

        Beefytrout..what a crazy post..have you ever watched the might want to refresh your history a little..the 2011 team was a pitch away from winning the Daniels started dismantling that team immediately after that loss..he completed it in less than three years..they have 2 players left from the Best Team in team history just 3 years later..they have failed to win the even the division since he started dismantling the team..i am suspecting you are either an Oakland or LA fan who is happy Daniels tore apart a team that had just went to back to back WS..I am not a Kinsler fan and was quite pleased to get Fielder for him..but with what Daniels did to that 2011 team is a shame..rangers wont see another WS as long as he is running team..

      • beefytrout - Mar 5, 2014 at 12:42 AM

        Complete and utter Rangers fan, jdmcguire. Don’t talk to me about 2011, I was there in the stands.

      • youknowwhatsgoodforshoulderpain - Mar 5, 2014 at 2:13 AM

        Lazy, you may have been a fan for a while, but you seem to not know jack about the team. Always funny to hear the armchair GMs out there rant. Yu is the only good pitcher?? Matt Harrison and Derek Holland must be spares in your book. Sure, Holland is injured and Harrison is coming back from a back injury, but as a GM you can’t go buy talent based on freak injuries and commit yourself to long contracts based on that. They are already committed to Holland and Harrison. I know in a perfect world the starting rotation would all be future HOFers, but try and live in reality a bit.

    • paperlions - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM

      All kinds of fail here.

      Ryan is the ego maniac. Daniels and his FO built all of the successful Ranger teams and the deep farm system. Ryan did squat. He didn’t scout, he didn’t draft, he didn’t develop players, he didn’t sign players, he didn’t coach, he didn’t make trades. All Ryan did was take credit publicly without ever bothering to properly direct credit to those responsible to the talent on the team…..but you think Daniels in the ego maniac because he simply wanted to do the job he was hired to do and had been doing successfully without interference from a figure head?

      There is a reason that Ryan was not sought after by a single team to run or help run the baseball side of a team…instead, he was hired for PR reasons by the team his son works for.

      • Jonestein - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        Well, he did help us get Roy Oswalt.

        Oh, wait…

      • paperlions - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM

        My bad.

      • Jonestein - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        I was being sarcastic. The Oswalt deal was a perfect example of why ownership needed to eradicate the Good Ole Boy shenanigans out ot the Rangers front office.

        If Nolan wasn’t such an egomaniac, he’d have recognized that he was most valuable to the club simply being The Legend(tm) – sitting at ballgames with Dubya, chatting with Buz and Tom between innings…it’s alll he needed to freakin do. The Galloway crowd would have continued to eat it up and worship him.

      • paperlions - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:27 PM


        I was being sarcastic, too.

      • jdmcguire2003 - Mar 4, 2014 at 7:18 PM

        geez dude you seem to know a lot about the inner workings of the Rangers and in fact every other team..who are you Daniels Boy Friend?

  4. ezthinking - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Is it so easy to forget that Profar put up .234 /.308/.336 .644? This is immediately after he put up a .176/.176/.471 .647 in 2012. Sorry Kinsler wasn’t bending over backwards to give the guy the position. Christ, Nick Punto was better with the stick than Profar last season.

    • zzalapski - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:56 AM

      Last year was Profar’s age-20 season, which included a decent month-plus worth of games at AAA.

      Kinsler wasn’t even in pro ball in his age-20 season, and he didn’t reach AAA until he was 23.

    • beefytrout - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

      If moving off second base was the only thing going on in the story, you might have a point. But it’s not, so… you know.

  5. johnnyhamer - Mar 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Yeah, maybe he said the wrong things but it’s always refreshing when an athlete speaks their mind and doesn’t give the same old recycled answers.

    • infieldhit - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:24 PM

      Well, there actually is a middle ground between recycled answers, and what Kinsler said…

      • karlkolchak - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:27 PM


  6. thebirdsareback - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Definitely the kind of guy you give 75 million to. What a TEAM player

    • sumkat - Mar 18, 2014 at 5:15 AM

      sadly, in baseball today, yeah, that’s the attitude you get for 5 years and 75 mil

      and he probably feels like he’s underpaid

  7. sf69ers - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    The Rangers gave you 5 years and $75 million and Kinsler has negative comments about the Rangers? I enjoy when a player speaks his mind, but come on Ian, the Rangers were good to you.

  8. federalist10 - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Kinsler is probably right, most news stories are about the drama they can create, rather than honest coverage of any sports. In fact, I don’t even know why I read this! I usually ignore these stories, but I like Kinsler, he was a good player for the Rangers.

  9. officialhintz - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    So many idiots in these comments. Nolan Ryan came in with an attitude that he was gonna run things, but when the rangers started winning (without Nolan) JD took over, because HE the “sleaze ball” brought the rangers to back to back alcs titles… Which isn’t easy. So the “sleazeball” wins. Rangers fans who say we pushed Nolan out, know he did it to himself, and without JD we don’t even contend. He is the reason why we are in a great position.

  10. miketreedy - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    I think Kinsler will continue his decline. It’s a big difference hitting at Rangers ballpark compared to the Tigers. So he may not hit 10 homers this season. He is not a good fielder anymore and is even worse on the bases. He has serious ADD (something he admits) and sometimes just falls asleep on the bases. He also admitted that he can’t handle being a leader on the team.

    This article just proves that on top of his playing issues he’s an idiot. Just shut up and put up your 10 homers in Tigers land. So far the Rangers have been right about not resigning Wilson and Hamilton. They won’t regret getting rid of this village idiot either.

    • clemente2 - Mar 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM

      Wilson not so much. This is the make-break year on Hamilton.

  11. indaburg - Mar 4, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    Looks like we have a matriculate for Derek Jeter’s School Of Media Relations.

    • historiophiliac - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM

      Do you really want a Kinsler basket?

      • indaburg - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:55 PM


  12. chunkala - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM

    Look for a terrible season from “I am not a leader” Kinsler.
    He’ll be pining for the friendly confines of Arlington after this season.

  13. zdravit - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:18 PM

    Nice shout-out to Michael Young. He leaves and the team collapses without their fearless leader? A truly underrated professional hitter oozing with intangibles.

  14. themanytoolsofignorance - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM

    ballplayer says something candid. Everyone jumps down his throat. Film at 11

    • historiophiliac - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:25 PM

      He didn’t PR the Right Way.

      • themanytoolsofignorance - Mar 4, 2014 at 3:10 PM

        Yes. clearly not. I find it refreshing though that he said what he thought. I think it is a pity that he attempted to retract it, too.

      • historiophiliac - Mar 4, 2014 at 3:16 PM

        Me too. At least own it. It’s not like Daniels denied it anyway. he he

  15. cackalackyank - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    3rd pitch he sees in Texas puts him on the ground. Just guessing.

    • beefytrout - Mar 4, 2014 at 1:33 PM

      no need. low and away and he’ll swing out of his shoes for it.

  16. badsequel - Mar 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    What will “Baseball Town” shout when Kinsler comes to town?

  17. musketmaniac - Mar 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    Leadership is one of those strange things that’s hard to label even more difficult to analyse. Ian obviously did not think he was capable or ready. As an employer, my best employees seldom made proper supervisors.

  18. toledotigerfan - Mar 4, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Kinsler is going to get booed, big-time, his first trip into Texas.

  19. happytwinsfan - Mar 4, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    looks like there’s a whole bunch of long time ranger fans here. got an off topic question for you, what did you think of W as an owner?

  20. mudhead123 - Mar 4, 2014 at 9:48 PM

    Ugh another post from “old gator”. Of all boards I have been on you are the worst

    • Old Gator - Mar 4, 2014 at 10:18 PM

      Of all the idiots who comment on my posts, you’re not even the dumbest (although I leave open the possibility that you’re ackcherley just another handle for one of the same ungeziefen with whom I’ve already gotten bored). But in case you are genuinely and uniquely useless, how does it feel to be a mediocrity even for a moron?

  21. cubb1 - Mar 5, 2014 at 12:18 AM


  22. patshal - Mar 5, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    I can’t stop laughing right now.

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