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Giants players love having Barry Bonds at spring training

Mar 11, 2014, 4:16 PM EDT

Barry Bonds Giants spring AP

Barry Bonds is back in a Giants uniform as a spring training instructor and Andrew Baggarly of CSNBayArea.com writes that “his every word was met with rapt attention” from players.

For instance, outfielder Michael Morse got some tutoring on his swing and afterward told Baggarly:

Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? The guy’s amazing. To have Barry Bonds watching me hit? I can cross that off my bucket list.

Shortstop Brandon Crawford also gave Bonds’ tutoring positive reviews and got a rare glimpse at the seven-time MVPs current swing:

Looks the same. Swing looks good. He claims he hasn’t swung a bat in six years. … Everything that I heard him talk about this morning is keeping your swing as simple as possible, and he explains it in the simplest ways.

And last but not least, a story about Giants minor leaguers Nick Noonan and Roger Kieschnick meeting Bonds:

Bonds watched them take BP in their own group and offered constant comments as they shuffled in and out of the cage. They got so carried away that they had to hustle back into the clubhouse and run to catch the bus to play the Reds at Goodyear. They would’ve missed it if a car hadn’t been illegally parked and blocking the driveway.

Something to consider next time you read a column about Bonds being a universally despised monster.

  1. stlouis1baseball - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    Dude is one of (if not) THE best hitters to ever play the game.
    When he talks hitting…people are gonna’ listen.
    .

    • jimmyt - Mar 12, 2014 at 7:34 AM

      Plus he can share some of the Clear and the Cream.

  2. halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    “Something to consider next time you read a column about Bonds being a universally despised monster.”

    Not really. No matter how much HBT tries to paint Bonds as a great, reformed man, he cheated with steroids. Don’t sugarcoat it. He was a cheater.

    To the quote of Brandon Crawford “Looks the same.” Well, Brandon, you are 24 years old. I guess you don’t remember being in your early teens watching Bonds play with more than a 80+lbs on his frame and his head the size of a beach-ball. This Barry Bonds love is laughable, especially from this site, when time and again, steroid use has been apologized for.

    • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:31 PM

      Thumb me down. I love it. I know I’m right. Now, give me articles on how great of a guy Ryan Braun is. I need it.

      • chacochicken - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        You could always try and kill him to impress Jody Foster.

    • themuddychicken - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

      To be fair, he didn’t say “Something to consider next time you read a column about Bonds being a cheater.”

      Technically, in theory, cheater =/= universally despised monster. Theoretically.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:34 PM

      Looks the same was in reference to Bonds’ swing, not his body. That’s why he followed it up with this comment “Swing looks good. … he claims he hasn’t swung a bat in six years.”

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM

        Not my point, Church. These players in Giants camp should not being praising a guy that is a cheater. You know this but play devils advocate. Sorry, I don’t buy it.

      • jkcalhoun - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:49 PM

        The players in Giants camp should not be praising the greatest hitter any of them ever saw or is ever likely to see? And who is in their camp to help coach them?

        I don’t think I’m seeing this the way you’re seeing this.

        The man served his debt to society. Let him ply his trade, or what’s left of it that’s available to him. MLB hasn’t got a problem with it. Why do you?

      • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:52 PM

        Mike Morse is a cheater. How many players in Giants camp do greenies? Have taken PEDs? They’re all cheaters. Why is it surprising that they are praising each other?

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:54 PM

        @jkcalhoun

        The man has served his debt to society? Are you serious? This is baseball, not life. Bonds cheated baseball record books and we give him a pass? He didn’t commit a civilian crime. He committed fraud on the baseball field. He cheated.

      • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:56 PM

        Again, how are you going to revise the baseball record books? What about greenies? What about pitchers who scuff balls? Are those sins or have you selectively chosen some subset of PEDs as the greatest cheating of all?

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:07 PM

        @alang3131982 ,

        Speed isn’t steroids, idiot. Once again, you are clueless.

      • jkcalhoun - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:08 PM

        This is baseball, not life.

        If you’re trying to make an argument for a more severe punishment than he received in federal court, that’s not a great start.

      • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:10 PM

        We’re talking about performance enhancing drugs. Speed is a drug. Speed enhances your performance.

        Are you asserting that steroids are the only real PEDs? Or are they somehow the holy grail of PEDs? Which specific steroids are the ones that help baseball players more? What data do you have that steroids help baseball players better than amphetamines or scuffing the ball? or do you just, for some reason, want to believe that the steroids, which Barry Bonds took (not the same ones that Morse took), were a magic elixir that helped him more than any greenies every helped a player in the 50s, 60s, 70s….etc.

      • indaburg - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM

        ‘cepts is right. Steroids are far worse than greenies. Look what can happen when you take steroids:

      • moogro - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:20 PM

        Besides being rarely funny, SNL drives away most people I know with that horrible, horrible saxophone. That’s as bad or worse than anything, and people like to joke about Kenny G. It must go.

        Dennis Miller’s voice used to be so nasally and whiny it sounds like the audio is sped up.

      • indaburg - Mar 11, 2014 at 7:24 PM

        Lighten up, moog. I was simply using a silly skit to illustrate how equally silly it is to differentiate one type of chemical cheating from another. It was not to start a discourse on how funny or unfunny SNL is. Like many things, it had its moments.

        Since we’re veering off topic, I can think of many annoying things about Dennis Miller, the least of which is the tone of his voice. Unfortunately, this comment board doesn’t allow embedding of .jpgs. I just wanted the picture of the guy with his arms ripped off.

      • moogro - Mar 11, 2014 at 7:51 PM

        Yer right, burgie. It was illustrative. I’m grumpy today.

      • clemente2 - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:03 PM

        Maybe because they are ‘cheating’ any way they can to this day, in one way or another, they feel differently? Or maybe they have a more nuanced view of past PEDs use? Maybe they just think the whole ‘holier-than-thou’ position of the PEDs moral brigrade is a tad too juvenile?

        Just thinking…

      • clydeserra - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:20 PM

        the giants shouldn’t praise a cheater?
        they gonna take down the 51 pennant?

    • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:44 PM

      In less than 20 minutes, it clear that fans don’t care about Barry Bond’s steroid use with my post’s thumbs down. It tells you all you need to know about baseball knowledge on this board.

      • largebill - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        Lighten up, Francis. You’re acting as if he is a mass murderer or a pedophile or something. He is a guy who was great at playing baseball and likely took some “performance enhancing drugs” to get better as he aged. Another way of thinking about PED’s is they are basically special vitamins to help with muscle recovery after working out. He didn’t kill anyone. He didn’t mess with kids. He played baseball and tried to do all he could to improve his performance.

      • jkcalhoun - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM

        I’m sure you’ll let us know when you’ve worked your way clear of that false dilemma.

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM

        @largebill,

        He cheated the baseball record books. You are clueless if you are a baseball fan and it doesn’t bother you.

      • illuminancer - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:20 PM

        No, I don’t care, because I think baseball is a game, not a sacrament. Barry Bonds was an amazing baseball player. He was also a massive jerk during much of his playing time, and was almost certainly using performance-enhancing drugs to keep him in the game longer. I’m actually capable of accepting that both A and B can be true, and the cognative dissonance doesn’t break my brain.

      • jjschiller - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:29 PM

        The fact that baseball players don’t hate him, and you can’t accept that, shows how little you know about baseball culture. They’re in it. You ain’t. There are players who think what he did was wrong. There are players who would do it at the drop of a hat, if that’s what it took to compete. There are players who say figure, “man, that’s a tough decision, I really don’t know,” and withhold judgement. Baseball players don’t split nicely in to two camps, however much you’d like them too. Well, really, one camp, like you’d like them too.

        That’s because they have skin in the game and you’re a weird little man constantly shouting on the internet, like the world is all black and white. I understand. You can’t work up a lather if you accept a nuanced perception of the world. But the fact that you need to work up a lather, is probably why you get such a kick out of being a ball bag.

      • granadafan - Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM

        “In less than 20 minutes, it clear that fans don’t care about Barry Bond’s steroid use with my post’s thumbs down. It tells you all you need to know about baseball knowledge on this board.”

        So, do all the actual people PLAYING baseball and praising Bonds as a hitting instructor also have no baseball knowledge?

    • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM

      Didnt Mike Morse fail a drug test? Where’s your animosity toward him? Do you think every single player who failed a drug test is a monster and should be banned from life? Or just Bonds? Or just black failed drug testers? Are you a racist? Or are you just not smart enough to realize that cheating doesnt make you evil unless you think basically every baseball player is evil. Is Hank Aaron evil? Pitchers that scuff the ball? Well?

    • apkyletexas - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      Big Pappi is a cheater – how do you feel about him? He’s won 3 rings as a Mitchell-report-list PED cheat, two of them with his good buddy, openly steroid-cheating Manny Ramirez. That’s more actual evidence than anyone has against Bonds.

      You hate them too, right? You think the Sox should be stripped of their titles, right?

      Or do you just hate Barry because some newspaper hacks and ESPN talking heads told you that you should?

      • paperlions - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

        He was not on the Mitchell Report, it was leaked that he may be one of the guys that failed a test during the year of anonymous PED testing before testing with penalties began.

    • ryanrockzzz - Mar 12, 2014 at 7:53 AM

      This cheater thing is techincally right, but are you just as angry at players and coaches who stole signs? Or who used greenies in the 60’s and 70’s? Or players who doctored the ball?

      If so, great, at least you’re consistent in hating all forms of cheating. As a fan though, it really doesn’t bother me. It never really has at all. I root for my team to win, and I don’t care about who’s using what, since there’s no way in place to catch all the cheaters anyway.

      So as it relates to Bonds, he was totally a cheater. But that doesn’t mean he’s much different than the thousands of other cheaters in baseball history, many of whom we still hold up on a high pedestal today, so therefore I’m over it.

    • alang3131982 - Mar 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM

      Did anyone ask halladay who is worse: Barry Bonds or Jonny Gomes?

  3. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    Bonds on hitting: It’s easy really, when you see the ball, you hit it out of the park.

    I’m not saying other-worldly talents don’t work hard at it, but I don’t think there is some gem of wisdom that separates Bonds from Crawford. Dude is just a freak.

    • illuminancer - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:11 PM

      Say what you will about Bonds, but everything I’ve ever read, even by people who loathe him, indicates that he was a true student of the game. There’s no PED that helps with pitch identification, or with knowing what a particular pitcher is going to throw in a particular count. That’s stuff that can be learned, and can be taught.

      Personally, I’m hoping Bonds can work with Brandon Belt and talk to him about how to be a left-handed power hitter in a park that’s death on lefties’ numbers.

      • largebill - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:14 PM

        I agree with most of your post, but the pharmaceutical industry takes issue with this contention: “There’s no PED that helps with pitch identification,” Apparently, they believe the added focus gained through use of adderall can help with pitch identification. It is in the fine print.

  4. tfbuckfutter - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    Yeah….everyone loves having the guy with all the drugs around.

  5. yahmule - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    “He claims he hasn’t swung a bat in six years.”

    He made a lot of claims.

  6. beefytrout - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    I have never heard Barry Bonds described as a “universally despised monster.” Or a “somewhat despised monster.”

    • chacochicken - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:34 PM

      My dog and I were just having this conversation the other day. We finally agreed on generally repugnant obsessive personality.

      • yahmule - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        I was pissed at him, but now I don’t care. My dogs are cool with him as long as he doesn’t try and walk into the house unannounced. That would touch off quite a ruckus.

      • chacochicken - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:52 PM

        I just hope he doesn’t ring the doorbell.

  7. bostonboresme - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    I’m glad to read this.

  8. halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    Barry Bonds was a terrible teammate and a steroid cheater. However, yeahhh that he’s in Giants camp and clueless young players in camp are praising a player that was drummed out of baseball and the Giants’ organization didn’t want anything to do with him.

    Yeah, Barry Bonds. We love you. Yeahhhhhh!

    • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:55 PM

      So a terrible teammate is one that did whatever it took to be better.

      Did he get suspended? Was tehre even a chance he would get suspened for his “ped use” No, so paint him as a cheater, someone who broke every rule to make himself better, but doesnt that make him a good teammate? Did any of his actions hurt his team or make it harder for them to win? No. So, in actuality he was a pretty good teammate. Was he possibly a jerk to some people, probably. Do we all work with jerks? yep. But i’d happily work with a jerk if he made my unit better and made it easier on me…

    • bostonboresme - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:56 PM

      Dude, you are so goddam annoying.

      • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:57 PM

        I thumbed up that in the event you meant halladay. if you meant me, then clearly you’ve been talking to my wife, which means i have to talk to her now about this. which is annoying.

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:03 PM

        @alang3131982,

        You are my personal troll. Once again, you bring nothing to the debate, other than say I’m annoying. Once again, F U buddy.

      • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        I know reading comprehension skills arent your thing, but where exactly did i call you annoying? I believe bostonboresme called you. I simply made a joke about it. But you can conflate the two.

        I dont find you annoying. I find you amusing, like a train wreck of logic. i find it unfathomable how anyone could think or write the things you do, yet there they appear. So, yeah, not so much annoying as a wonder, a weird bizarre, wonder.

    • dcarroll73 - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      This is an old and unfounded claim that anyone who really followed the Giants will dispute. Bonds was never a “terrible teammate”. He was aloof, but he was the acknowledged star in that clubhouse so that is not so unusual. For me the classic example of what sort of teammate and leader Bonds was would be the time when Kent was ragging on a young player for making a mistake. Bonds stepped in and told Kent off. He was a fine teammate.
      As for this garbage about “cheater”, are you just as outraged about every player who broke any rule? Bonds proved what he could do long before he was thought to be using steroids. I doubt that it really made a hell of a difference. There were games when the guy saw one pitch all night that touched the strike zone, and he parked that one in McCovey Cove. Cheater? Who cares!

      • clemente2 - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:11 PM

        This. amny players have said they had no problem with him. His biggest problems directly were apparently Kent (who rubbed all sorts of people the wrong way) and Clark, who did the same. Most of the anit-Bonds stuff among players was the garden variety junior high school stuff–‘why does he get a big chair and I don’t?’.

  9. karlkolchak - Mar 11, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    “To have Barry Bonds watching me hit? I can cross that off my bucket list.”

    Personally, I’d really like to see Australia someday, but to each his own.

    • alang3131982 - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:04 PM

      I’d probably rather have Bonds watch me hit. He was one of my favorite players. But then I also live really far from Australia and would dread that plane flight when i could just go to like Costa Rica…

  10. halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    We love Barry Bonds. Yeahhhhh! I love Barry Bonds so much I thought of this great California song. We love him!

    • chacochicken - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:06 PM

      Frank, don’t grab the high voltage!

  11. pantherpro - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    We love you BB. Thanks for helping us build best park in baseball!!

  12. halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    I give up on this whole debate. Love steroid users. I don’t care. I waste my time with responses to people that don’t know the harm steroids did to the sport of baseball. Barry Bonds was a cheater and when he played. That’s why he isn’t in the HOF. Period! You don’t like it? Blame the National Baseball HOF, who set up the rules that the writers have to follow electing players. Give me a break!

    • bostonboresme - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:23 PM

      You sound like a whiny little bitch! Move on! Sorry we don’t want Barry to burn in a black hole.

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

        F U. You don’t tell the bicepts to move on. You are from Boston and you are worried about Barry Bonds’ legacy? You should be ashamed of yourself, weakling. Most Boston fans know cheaters when they see them. You are as weak as Barry Bonds.

    • bostonboresme - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM

      Definitely not from Boston. Thanks for telling me where I’m from though.

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM

        You have boston in your name. Your even a bigger turd if Boston is in your name and you don’t like the city.

      • moogro - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM

        Boston is really boring if you are not going to school.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:02 PM

      I’m racking my brain, in the year+ you’ve been on this board, as to whether you’ve made a single statement that has any proof behind it?

      don’t know the harm steroids did to the sport of baseball.

      [citation needed]

      After the ’94 strike, attendance skyrocketed with the HR chase. Salaries have gone through the roof, teams are signing billion dollar broadcast deals, and franchises are seeing their values increase exponentially. Even after the PED issue with the Mitchell Report and Congress, fans are still showing up to the games in numbers far exceeding the pre-’94 days. So tell me, how has the game been harmed?

      You’re making the claim, now put your money where your mouth is…

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:10 PM

        Church,

        In all the years that YOU have been posting to this board, besides metrics (what everypne can look up without opinion), what have you contributed? No opinion whatsoever. Look at your response above, you ask for a citation needed for my steroid remark. I don’t need one. I watched the sport be harmed by steroids by the amount of offense I saw. Want to dispute that? I don’t have the correct medical reports to prove a citation? Same BS that you always come back with. Stay with your metrics.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:08 PM

        You’re making a claim of “harm” when the sport has never been healthier. You want to make a claim that it’s been harmed, show us how. I’m not taking the word of someone who can’t control themselves so they get banned from an internet forum, then after beginning to come back says they should get banned again because they can’t act like an adult.

        Things I’ve contributed? Well I’m not exactly a writer here, but in no particular order, I’d say: Yankee fan, fan of stats, defender of gay and women rights, hates long walks on the beach and reminisces about needling original Phillies posters like Chris F and J5.

      • clemente2 - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:14 PM

        Yea, where is Chris F?

    • lingerie00yardsale - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:06 PM

      Please do come back in a couple of years when Bonds is enshrined in the Hall of Fame!

  13. bfunk1978 - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    This is kind of sad, because he really was one of the greatest hitters ever, the best of his generation, and he went down the PED path. He was a superstar player when he left Pittsburgh. Nobody knows what his numbers would have been without steroids, but I think he would have continued to put up spectacular numbers for a long time, and might have played with the Giants longer than 2007. He might not even be HOF eligible yet and might have broken Aaron’s record if not for the toxic situation with BALCO.

  14. halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Rule of Fight Club. Never fight Barry Bonds on Hardballtalk dot com. “You will lose.” – Ivan Drago LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    • stealing3rd - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:09 PM

      How come you don’t seem to be too bothered by all of the cheaters on your own team? Hell, when Bond’s did it, it wasn’t even really against MLB rules.

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:13 PM

        What steroid cheaters do the Phillies have right now? I’d like to know.

      • stealing3rd - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:26 PM

        Galvis, Bastardo, Byrd, Frandsen, plus Ruiz (yes, it wasn’t steroids, but it’s still a PED). I’m sure I’m probably forgetting someone else.

      • halladaysbiceps - Mar 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM

        @stealing3rd,

        It isn’t steroids. And my thumbs-down for my comment is how out of touch you people are.

      • stealing3rd - Mar 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM

        A more rational thought might be that the amount of thumbs down would indicate that you are the one that’s out of touch.

        Anyway, skipping over Ruiz , how do you rationalize the other steroid users on your team?

    • largebill - Mar 11, 2014 at 6:30 PM

      Believe you misread the rules. Nothing says you can’t criticize (or fight) Bonds on HardballTalk. The issue most of us have is the amount of venom you are spewing and how deranged you are in hating this guy. It is the same problem on many political forums where people can not politely disagree. Instead they become nut jobs and take it as a personal affront that not everyone agrees with their point of view.

  15. conjecture101 - Mar 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Stop over-compensating for the fact that you guys railroaded Bonds in his playing days. Some of us never contributed to the all-knowing, sanctimonious drivel that was spewed out about him on a daily basis. The media shamelessly destroys peoples character, spits on them while they’re down, and then, decades later, wonders why people have a negative perception of that person. Save the “Bonds is actually a great guy narrative” for a group of poor, impressionable,naive souls, who will, in time, learn like generations before them did, that the media is full of ____. Funny how Bonds has a bunch of defenders now, fighting for his reputation. Where were you guys when he actually needed you? Or are modern sports writers just inherently morally superior to their inherently evil elders. That must be it.

  16. temporarilyexiled - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Polarized comments much?

    Sheer entertainment.

    And Craig, the best part of it is, you could’ve left out “universally despised monster” and simply relied on your headline: “Giants players love having Barry Bonds at spring training”

    The results would’ve been the same.

    • bostonboresme - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:29 PM

      Craig didn’t write this post.

      • temporarilyexiled - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM

        Thanks, I caught it after you did, but before I saw your reply.

    • temporarilyexiled - Mar 11, 2014 at 8:34 PM

      As usual, the joke’s on me.

      Sorry, Aaron.

      : )

  17. jkcalhoun - Mar 11, 2014 at 9:36 PM

    I can’t figure out what it is that halladaysbiceps thinks should happen to Barry Bonds.

    Clearly Bonds was denied the opportunity to play one or more additional seasons when he was still fit to play and wanted to continue playing. (I can’t say whether this denial amounted to collusion; I’m just saying that all else being equal, someone with Bonds’ level of production at his age, whose name hadn’t come up in the doping headlines, would have been offered a contract for 2008 and possibly also for a few years after that.)

    And of course there was the federal prosecution, no small matter regardless of what anyone thinks of its outcome.

    And there is the ongoing ad hoc BBWAA penalty, which may or may not matter to Bonds but is clearly significant enough to the voters for them to continue finding novel ways to justify ignoring his obvious excellent qualifications for the Hall of Fame.

    Moreover, lots of folks say that to them his records aren’t legitimate, naming others as the “real” record holders in various categories, even though MLB itself recognizes what Bonds accomplished on the field.

    What more is required? A ritual shunning? Format excommunication via Buddal bull?

    Some folks seem to want something more. But what?

    • florida76 - Mar 11, 2014 at 11:55 PM

      jkcalhoun,

      It doesn’t matter whether MLB recognizes what Bonds accomplished on the field, they were in an impossible position of not knowing when exactly he began cheating. Any intelligent person knows the roughly second half of his career should be treated like Ben Johnson’s gold medal Olympic performance.

      Bonds created this situation by electing to cheat when he was already naturally gifted. For redemption, he needs to follow this simple steps:

      1. Admit the truth
      2. Apologize for embarrassing the San Francisco Giants organization, and those fans.
      3. Apologize to MLB, and publicly endorse Hank Aaron as the legitimate HR king we all know him to be.
      4. Help MLB in educating young players about the dangers of PED use.
      5. Stop talking about the HOF, let time settle the issue after taking steps 1-4.

      • alang3131982 - Mar 12, 2014 at 8:44 AM

        HANK AARON TOOK GREENIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF LOGIC

      • grumpyoleman - Mar 12, 2014 at 9:14 AM

        Aaron admitted to taking greenies ONCE and stopped taking them because of how they made him feel. Huge difference from being on a steroid regiment year round for several years.

      • alang3131982 - Mar 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM

        So you believe Aaron? Who played at a time where greenies were incredibly prevalent. When there were two different kinds of coffee in a club house — including one souped up version.

        There’s not a huge difference to cheating unless you know the actually effects of the cheating and how much someone cheated.

        Aaron admitted to cheating, something that is dishonest, yet you choose to believe his honesty that he only did it once? I find that laughable. I’d be shocked if someone took a drug, which is purported to make ballplayers feel super human, and decided he didnt like to feel that way. He wanted to feel normal. yeah, right.

      • grumpyoleman - Mar 12, 2014 at 9:50 AM

        You have any proof he’s lying? I find it laughable that you assume someone tried something once and never stopped. Apparently you never went to college or high school.

      • jkcalhoun - Mar 12, 2014 at 10:08 AM

        Uh, thanks, even though that’s not what I was asking for. Next time I see Bonds or one of his lawyers I’ll pass along your recipe.

        One question: when does Bonds talk about the Hall of Fame, other than when someone asks him a direct question about it? I believe he was asked whether he thinks he belongs in it, and he indicated that he did. You want him to say what instead?

      • jkcalhoun - Mar 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM

        Also, since you’re here: San Francisco loves Monte Irvin.

        Who recently turned 95, just a little over two weeks ago. Belatedly but sincerely: happy birthday, Monte Irvin!

  18. mpzz - Mar 13, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    First of all, anyone who thinks the “speed” of years ago compares to the amphetamines that are available today, is an idiot. And any comparison to steroids that enable a player in his forties to hit far better than he did in his twenties is absolute foolishness.
    Bonds is unquestionably guilty of using steroids, yet he refuses to acknowledge it or make any attempt to atone for it. Beyond that, he is an awful person and has been ever since he started playing with the Pirates. On the radio yesterday, Mike Greeberg said that Bonds had the worst attitude of anyone he’s ever dealt with- “stunningly, almost shockingly bad” I believe he said. Neither the Giants nor MLB should have anything to do with him.

  19. 101ab - Mar 14, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    I love to read these comments posted on here about Barry Bonds. First off steroids will not give you the needed hand eye coordination to hit a baseball. Second, let’s just say for arguments sake Bonds started using around 99′-00′. Even stick figure Barry Bonds put up Hall of Fame numbers between his years in PIT and SF. Third, I seem to recall Mark McGuire picking up a pay check to teach hitting and Roger Clemons tutoring minor league pitchers for the Astors. Trust me I met Barry Bonds as a kid and he is every bit the A-hole everyone makes him out to be, but with that being said he is still one if the best to every pick up a bat.

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