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The Yankees were no-hit by the Marlins in Panama

Mar 16, 2014, 12:14 AM EDT

Steve Cishek AP

It may be spring training, but no-hitters are always fun. Marlins pitchers Brad Hand, Steve Cishek, A.J. Ramos, and Arquimedes Camineros combined for nine innings of no-hit baseball against the Yankees. The game was played at Rod Carew Stadium in Panama as part of the “Legend Series”.

Brad Hand started the game and went five innings, striking out six. Steve Cishek followed up with a scoreless frame with one walk. Ramos pitched the seventh and eighth innings, walking one, and Caminero wrapped up the ballgame with a strikeout in his only inning of work.

The Yankees were only fielding half of what will be their starting lineup, but Brett Gardner, Derek Jeter, Carlos Beltran, and Alfonso Soriano combined to go 0-for-11 out of the top four spots in the lineup. Manager Joe Girardi wasn’t happy. Via MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch:

“You never want to be no-hit,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. “I don’t care what game it is, what level. You never want to see that.”

Still, better to get no-hit in the Grapefruit League than during the regular season. The Marlins, surprisingly, have the lowest team ERA in spring training. Hand has had a great showing, allowing just one run in 12 innings of work thus far, posting a 15-to-2 strikeout-to-walk ratio.

  1. dcarroll73 - Mar 16, 2014 at 1:15 AM

    Did they let Mariano play CF? I don’t see how he could have done any worse than oh-fer, and they say (aside from the unfortunate injury) he really can field balls in center. It certainly would have been cool to see one of the all-time greats playing a different position. Other than the “ho hit” teaser, any further word on this game?

  2. sabatimus - Mar 16, 2014 at 1:29 AM

    You never want to see that, Joe? I do.

  3. uyf1950 - Mar 16, 2014 at 5:05 AM

    Even though the Yankees offense (in spirit) decided to stay in Tampa, Warren added his name to the list of potential candidates for the 5th starting spot in the Yankees 2014 rotation. Girardi may have to reconsider that Nova has a spot locked up and consider 5 candidates (Phelps, Pineda, Nuno, Warren and Nova) for the last 2 spots at this pace. These next 2 weeks when teams start to play more of their regular line ups should separate the contenders from pretenders for the starting rotation.

    • proudlycanadian - Mar 16, 2014 at 7:11 AM

      Agreed. It will be interesting. Pineda would probably benefit from a year in the minors in order to build up his arm strength.

      • 18thstreet - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM

        Pineda was pretty amazing for a while in Seattle. I’m not sure he has anything else to prove in AAA. And if arm strength is an issue, better he spend the limited bullets he has in the majors than waste them in AAA. All this assumes he’s effective, which I think he will be.

        Seems best to get 100 MLB innings out of him and see where things stand at the All-Star Break. This is especially true if the Yankees really do have the pitching depth in the stating rotation that UFY suggests.

      • proudlycanadian - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:30 AM

        The key phrase is “for a while”. He pitched poorly after the All Star break in 2011.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM

        He pitched poorly after the All Star break in 2011.

        If all you look at is ERA, then yes he pitched poorly. If you look at his peripherals, they were just as good as his first half.

      • proudlycanadian - Mar 16, 2014 at 12:11 PM

        Even with those “peripherals” he still ran out of gas in the second half of 2011. With the paucity of innings that he has thrown since, I fully expect that he will also run out of gas in 2014.

    • Kevin S. - Mar 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM

      Barring any physical impediments, it would be insane to yank Nova from the rotation based on spring training wackiness.

      • proudlycanadian - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:22 AM

        I prefer Nova when he pitches like Ivan the Terrible rather than Ivan the Great. Unfortunately, you never know which Ivan will show up.

      • uyf1950 - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:50 AM

        It’s not a matter of “yanking” Nova based on his possible ST shortcomings. It’s a matter in my opinion of choosing the best 2 of the 5 for the back of the rotation that give the Yankees the best shot. If that includes Nova so be it, if it doesn’t sometimes chit happens.

      • Kevin S. - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM

        And there’s no reasonable case to be made that Nova is not one of those best two options unless he’s hurting. Recent track record matters in the evaluation.

    • spudchukar - Mar 16, 2014 at 10:33 AM

      UYF, my friend, while you are correct that we are entering the more meaningful phase of ST, to date the Yankee offense, hasn’t shown up. Not one starter is hitting .300. Tanaka has looked good, and so have Phelps, Pineda, and Warren giving some reason for optimism from the back end of the starting staff.

      A person can keep telling themselves that it is early, but the interstate numbers Jeter- .148, Texeira- .167, Ellsbury-.174, Beltran-.120 and Ichiro-.125 are posting is troublesome to put it gently. I am sure that Ellsbury and Beltran will turn it around, veterans who have always hit, the “questionables”, Roberts, Texeira and Jeter are struggling.

      Can those in question turn it around, of course. The last two weeks are the most vital, particularly among established players, but right now the Yanks are a team struggling to score runs, struggling to win more than they lose, and playing like many have projected.

  4. Old Gator - Mar 16, 2014 at 7:09 AM

    Hand and Koehler have both had eggselent camps for the Feesh so far, and at this point the rotation looks like it’ll be El Keed, Eovaldi, Alvarez, Hand and Koehler. Does it mean much? Well, it’s been pretty consistent – El Keed had his worst outing of camp so far, issuing four walks but giving up one whole run on a sacrifice fly day fore yesterday. There’s nothing “surprising” about the team ERA. Although the eight guys the Feesh look like they’ll be putting in the field every day figger to occupy the dregs of the league in offensive stats, this is a pretty good young staff, including the boolpen.

  5. proudlycanadian - Mar 16, 2014 at 7:14 AM

    If my memory is correct, Koehler looked very good in a recent start against the Jays.

    • Old Gator - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM

      He’s looked good in most of his work so far this spring. I doubt if he’ll be quite this good over the course of the season – he was erratic last year, having brilliant streaks and mediocre troughs. He’s a good number five man on this squad and on some staffs might even make a three or four. The Feesh are lucky they’re getting this kind of performance out of their peetchers so far, because Furcal is hurting again and their overall offense has been, as expected, pretty weak. They celebrate when one of their scrapheap acquisitions homers against an A-ball prospect. If they feel like they have a peetching surplus maybe they can try to trade one of the two – Hand or Koehler – for some offense. Of course, as always, the problem here is, what kind of salary will Scrooge McLoria let them take upon themselves?

  6. canadiansportsfan77 - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:02 AM

    Wooh, going to love hearing stinky Harry’s take on this one. Imagine it will be something hypocritical of ST results and the Jays.

    • jwbiii - Mar 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM

      I’ll go with, “If the Yankees got no hits, the Jays would have had -5.”

      • dirtyharry1971 - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM

        you would both be wrong

      • Old Gator - Mar 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM

        I agree. That would have been much too clever a response for you.

      • historiophiliac - Mar 16, 2014 at 5:55 PM

        That did not make his day.

  7. f.verd - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    In order to be in the starting rotation you must end your surname with an “A”. And who is to say the Yankees can’t have a six man rotation? Sabathia, Kuroda, Tanaka, Nova, Pineda, and Warrena. Tanaka would not have to acclimate too much…

  8. themanytoolsofignorance - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM

    The name “Arquimedes Camineros” is the stuff of legend. I cannot wait for Vin Scully to utter that. I will demand a grandchild be named “Arquimedes”.

    • jyoung1891 - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM

      It’s Greek to me.

      • themanytoolsofignorance - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:03 AM

        He would have to like Pi, wouldn’t he?

        “A jug of wine. A loaf of bread. And pi.”
        (since we’re expounding on great mathematicians and astronomers, lets paraphrase one of my favorites. I bet he wouldn’t mind at all)

    • indaburg - Mar 16, 2014 at 10:05 AM

      He sounds like a character from a Gabriel Garcia Marquez novel. It’s an epic name–mystical and lyrical. Good luck on the whole grandkid naming thing.

      • Old Gator - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM

        Indy: I’ll write him into the sequel, Cien y uno aƱos de soledad, as Melquiades Caminero just for you since, sadly, Garcia Marquez is in no condition to do it himself. He’s suffering from dementia, of which his family has a long history, and no longer writes. He quietly observed his 87th birthday last week at his home in Mexico City.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM

      I want him to be named after Merlin’s owl in Disney’s Sword in the Stone. I’d even take the owl from the original Clash of the Titans…

  9. tuucamaron - Mar 16, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    That’s what happens when you spend a night out drinking Panamaniam rum with the greatest closer of all times and then try to play ball the next day

    • spudchukar - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM

      I assume the Marlins went to church instead.

      • tuucamaron - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        Lol . Late night church?

  10. kelshannon19 - Mar 16, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    The Yankees are used to being combined no-hit.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Mar 16, 2014 at 4:58 PM

      The last time one pitcher no-hit the Yankees, Dwight Eisenhower was US president!

  11. zdravit - Mar 16, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    Should have let Hand go all the way. I don’t believe pitchers need to get stretched out. There goes the highlight of their season.

  12. musketmaniac - Mar 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    The Yankees will be less than mediocre

  13. pftoracle - Mar 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    A preview of what is to come all year long.

  14. rcali - Mar 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM

    Quick, spend more money Yankees!!!!!

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