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Vance Worley clears waivers, stays with Twins

Mar 21, 2014, 3:45 PM EDT

Vance Worley AP

Vance Worley was the main piece the Twins received in the Ben Revere trade last offseason and then started on Opening Day … and now he’s headed to Triple-A after being placed on waivers and going unclaimed by the other 29 teams.

In between he had a miserable season in which he went 1-5 with a 7.21 ERA for the Twins, wasn’t much better at Triple-A, and missed time with arm problems.

Worley is still just 26 years old and had a 3.50 ERA in 278 innings for the Phillies before the trade, but his raw stuff was always marginal and he’s had elbow issues dating back to late 2012.

  1. dluxxx - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    The Vanimal. Opening day starter for 2013 to passing through waivers and being assigned to AAA before the season starts in 2014.

    • dluxxx - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:56 PM

      I meant to add “My how the mighty have fallen.” Edit?

      • happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:00 PM

        “the mighty”? i like it.

      • NatsLady - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:49 PM

        That was understood.

    • visnovsky - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:58 PM

      This what we in the upper midwest like to call “The Twins Way”

    • percychuggs - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:59 PM

      Don’t forget the other option for Opening Day 2013, Scott Diamond, will probably be subject to the same thing after the Twins cut him in a couple days. What a Mickey Mouse organization they’ve turned into, just in the course of the last couple years. Target Field will be three quarters empty by Mid May this year.

  2. happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    this is good news because it probably means that deduno will get the 5th starting spot now that we know that the twins don’t have to or want to put worley on the team to keep from losing him. nolasco, hughes, pelfry, corriea, deduno, um, better than last year.

    • percychuggs - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:00 PM

      Nope, Kyle Gibson gets that spot. Mike Pelfrey should have to compete with Deduno for the 4th spot in the rotation, but he won’t, because he’s already a “Gardy Guy”, and we Twins fans know how those guys get special treatment. It’s the reason Jason Bartlett still hasn’t been outright released after his god awful spring.

      • hansob - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:06 PM

        Honestly, I’d rather take my chances with Pelfrey in his 2nd yr after TJ than Deduno or Correia.

      • happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:14 PM

        Gibson, if he does well at AAA would get the spot of whoever stinks it up (the most) in april and may. then, if there’s a god above, whoever stinks it up the most in may or june is replaced by meyer.

      • Bryz - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM

        Pelfrey signed a 2-year contract, so him being guaranteed a rotation spot has nothing to do with being one of Gardy’s guys. Hell, you should be blaming the front office instead.

        As for Jason Bartlett, he’s on a minor league contract, so he’s not even guaranteed a roster spot. Plus, you’re really complaining about the guy that’s fighting to be the backup infielder on this team?

  3. happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    anybody heard anything about how hughes is looking? he’s my favorite lottery ticket.

  4. jsally430 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    I’m fairly certain the centerpiece of the trade was Trevor May

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:16 PM

      I’m fairly certain you need to look up what the word “centerpiece” means.

      Top Prospect vs. Guy you anointed the Opening Day starter? I am not saying the Twins didn’t like May, but it is laughable to suggest THAT is who they had there eye on most!

      • happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM

        what’s laughable is that worley was the best looking option to be the twins opening day starter last year. without inside info on terry ryan’s thinking we can’t know which of the two he considered to be the more valuable addition to the organization, but if you were evaluating the relative value of the two, wouldn’t it at least be a close call?

  5. nicofthenorthstar - Mar 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Exactly, visnovsky – the Twins way. What a sh-t show.

    • happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:55 PM

      negative “fans” like you are only tiresome. could you at least try to think of something more original than your “the twins way” taunts.

      when the twins are in an up cycle winning division titles all you talk about is whatever point in the play offs their run ended, ignoring the long heart warming summers of 90 plus wins. when they’re in a down cycle they’re not a small to mid market team trying to smartly reload, you say they’re the most blatantly incompetent, pathetic bunch of misfits this side of, you.

      enjoy yourself while you can, because when the twins are on the downside giving you the opportunity to tell all how much smarter you are than the obvious fools running the twins, is when you are at your happiest. some warm summer soon you are going to have to shutup, at least until play off time.

      • visnovsky - Mar 21, 2014 at 8:55 PM

        The reason I disparage the Twins front office is their apparent unwillingness to adapt to the changing culture in baseball. For example, it has been proven that a team should bat their best hitter 2nd in the batting order. Yet, Gardy has consistently batted one of the worst hitters in that position for most years. Hell just read this from 2010. This is why we rip “The Twins Way”
        This is perfectly consistent with everything else we know about the Twins and their front office. Aaron Gleeman [writes]:

        Last offseason during an appearance on KFAN radio I commented that the Twins were one of the increasingly rare MLB teams without any sort of department focused on statistical analysis. Assistant general manager Rob Antony brought up my comment in an interview a couple days later and noted somewhat tersely that the Twins’ decision-makers did use stats, but in doing so pointed to OPS, home/road splits, and other fairly mainstream, publicly available numbers.


        Antony made a number of worthwhile points regarding the limits of statistical analysis and how the Twins have succeeded without it, but also showed what is to me at least a startling lack of knowledge on the subject for an assistant general manager.

        For example, when asked if he knew what the statistic FIP stands for Antony said that he “just saw this one the other day” and guessed “first strike in inning pitched.” The answer is Fielding Independent Pitching, and both the FIP stat and the analysis behind it have been around for years. Similarly, he didn’t know that BABIP stands for batting average on balls in play, which is a fairly basic concept and one of the building blocks of statistical analysis.

        Whether or not the Twins actually use or even value stats like FIP or BABIP, it shocks me that the assistant GM isn’t at least aware of and reasonably familiar with them. As for what stats he does make use of, Antony explained that the Twins “look at a lot of home/roads splits” and “we’re big on OPS, we’re big on WHIP” while admitting that those are “traditional things that I know people have gone beyond and gotten deeper.”

  6. happytwinsfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 11:00 PM


    i agree that the twins are culturally recalcitrant when it comes to recently developed baseball analytics. i agree that much of their response to criticisms is a self preservative bureaucratic reaction. what’s new about that?

    i wasn’t really talking to you. i was talking to those who get their kicks out of ranting on and on all about the twins organizational evils while ignoring the successes, because that makes them feel smart.

    i ask you to examine what are you rootin fer. i deal with spreadsheets and algorithms every day and when i get home and tune in the twins i’m rootin for where i live,cold hands, warm hearts.

    spring is nigh – gooooo twiiiiiiiiiins !!!!

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