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Pablo Sandoval, Giants far apart on extension talks

Apr 8, 2014, 9:28 AM EST

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Fox’s Jon Morosi reports that the Giants and Pablo Sandoval are “still far apart” in extension talks. Morosi says Sandoval wants at least five years on a long-term deal.

I have no idea how one could give Sandoval five years without being really creative with incentive clauses tied to weight, plate appearances and the like. He has the potential to be totally worth a five-year commitment, but his personal commitment to fitness has wavered so much, it makes such a thing scary. If you’re the Giants, you probably want to wait to see how this season goes before getting too far along with him.

  1. renaado - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:49 AM

    Panda still looks chubby in this pic.

    • blabidibla - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:11 AM

      He still looks chubby on the field too.

      He’s not as slim as he was a few years ago when he was in serious shape, but it’s better than his really fat years. Oddly, he got hurt a couple times that slim and trim year and missed a significant part of the season.

      How come we never talk Prince Fielder’s weight? He has no problems getting a long term contract.

      • stex52 - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:18 AM

        We do talk about it, and most of us think Fielder will fall off the cliff. He has held it together until now, though. And obviously the Rangers think it is a good risk. I’m not so sure.

      • renaado - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:22 AM

        Craig really needs to put more Fielder topic here… About Fielders long term contract i’m pretty sure he has no problem gettin one cause he’s a power hitter with a big name (Not to mention he has a knack for cheeseburgers…) he may not be that good in the postseason but he can definitely carry a team for playoff contention.

      • stex52 - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:31 AM

        Not sure, but I think Fielder is a vegetarian. A big one, of course.

      • tablescrappy - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:42 AM

        Sandoval definitely looks quite a bit larger than that pic he posted over the offseason. Makes one wonder how much photo editing happened there. Guy still looks like he should have a spotter truck driving behind him on the freeway.

      • sportsfan18 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM

        A couple of things helped Fielder get his long term contract.

        1) his age. when he signed it he was only 28 yrs old when he signed it, not 31 or so.

        2) in the 6 full seasons before he signed his huge deal (his only 6 full seasons actually), this is how many games he played in each of those seasons:

        157
        158
        159
        162
        161
        162

        So he was durable (to that point) and still fairly young.

        I too think he’ll fall off a cliff at some point, but I can see how he obtained his huge deal.

      • blabidibla - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM

        Pablo is 27. He’s has not been as durable as Fielder, but none of his injuries can be attributed to his weight. Two broken hamate bones (both since removed), a pulled hamstring and ulnar neuritis in his throwing elbow are the causes for his DL stints over the past 5 years. He’s averaged 134 games over that span, with 108 being his least number of games.

        There’s no denying Fielder is the superior offensive player and as such deserves the better contract. Please don’t think I’m making a case Pablo is in his league offensively. I just think the weight issues are overblown.

        I would think Pablo is worth more than Hunter Pence who recently received 5 years at $90 million. He’s a younger, switch hitting 3b with a decent glove and a proficient bat at a thin position (pun intended). WAR over the past 5 years Pablo = 15.8, Hunter = 10.2

  2. jeffbbf - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    “If you’re the Giants, you probably want to wait to see how this season goes before getting too far along with him.”

    Seems obvious that this is why the Giants and Sandoval are far apart in talks. Or maybe it was directly related to your advice.

  3. thebadguyswon - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    He’s going to get paid and then get fatter again. Solid player, but a classic caveat emptor.

  4. pilonflats - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    the giants are going to sign him long term – they resign their own. I have faith in the panda (ok, maybe not so much, but im hoping)

  5. hansob - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    take the draft pick.

  6. insidefastball - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    Panda will not get a big time contract on the open market. He is inconsistent with his performance and he has a lengthy injury history. He is vastly overestimating his value to any club. His numbers aren’t all that great most years.

  7. yahmule - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    They should let him play out his contract and then make a decision. They might wind up paying him half as much as they expected when the market determines his value next winter.

  8. gonzo650 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    There’s a simple reason that fielders weight isn’t a concern. It’s the same reason all the al teams give these bloated long contracts. If he can no longer play first they can simply dh him and use his bat. As an nl team the giants don’t have that luxury

  9. paperlions - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Given his obvious jedi skills shown in that pick, I’m surprised he didn’t just use the jedi mind trick to get a deal done quickly.

  10. NYTolstoy - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    I feel the only reason he really got in shape this year was because it was his walk year. Giants are probably terrified that once he signs that new 5 year contract he will just let himself go. And that’s not what you want for 90 million dollars.

  11. mikehunt418 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    I know it’s early, but he’s hitting what his current contract is worth. Definitely not Pence money and years.

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