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HBT Daily: Is Yangervis Solarte the real deal?

Apr 10, 2014, 2:32 PM EDT

  1. renaado - Apr 10, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Well aresachaela surely said he’s a real deal though so I guess (Not for me though)… Well as for me he’s still a rookie there and many pitchers have still yet to know his strengths and weaknesses so his hotness at the plate will soon wane when the regular season progress on.

    • aresachaela - Apr 10, 2014 at 9:01 PM

      Heck yeah he is! Yankees time to shine this season now Ren!

  2. Old Gator - Apr 10, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    Everyone who got so excited over the name “Arquimedes Caminero” has got to be effusing about “Yangervis Solarte.”

    • cur'68 - Apr 10, 2014 at 10:46 PM

      No. “Arquimedes Caminero” is unbeatable. “Yangervis Solarte” is unpronounceable. The former makes me think of the physics of fast cars and loose women. The latter makes me think the sound a screen door left flapping in the wind and barely held back by a spring. I’ll take me some “Arquimedes Caminero” any day.

  3. braddavery - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    No. .736 career OPS in 263 AAA games. It’s just a fluke hot streak and it will not last. I will be surprised if he is even in the Majors in 2015.

    • chip56 - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:06 PM

      Melvin Mora had a .734 OPS through 9 minor league seasons before breaking through at the big league level. It does happen.

      • braddavery - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:12 PM

        Well that settles it. Solarte will be a great career Major Leaguer because you found one guy who beat the odds.

      • chip56 - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM

        I didn’t say that – I just said that it can happen.

        I don’t get why you ass clowns think everything has to be in absolutes. Turning a statement that says there is precedent for a guy with no track record, no prospect status and middling AAA numbers making it as a pro into “You’re saying he’s going to be a great major leauger” is like turning “Bryce Harper isn’t as good as Mike Trout” into “so you’re saying that Bryce Harper sucks?”

      • braddavery - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM

        You gonna be okay? I love it when people overreact on the internet and start name-calling for no reason other than they hate themselves. I know it CAN happen. My opinion is that it won’t. Simply pointing to Melvin Mora and saying ‘Look, it can happen.’ doesn’t change my opinion that it won’t in THIS PARTICULAR CASE. Anything CAN happen.

      • chip56 - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM

        I’ll be fine, thanks for your concern.

        I don’t hate myself, but thanks for your concern there too.

    • mianfr - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:12 PM

      Robinson Cano was a career .756 OPS guy in the minors and never much of a prospect.

      Your answer may be right, but your logic is off. The .461 BABIP is much more of an indicator here.

      • braddavery - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:15 PM

        Cano had a .793 OPS in 85 career AAA games and sported a .942 OPS the season he was called up at age 22. To use him as some sort of comparison to 26 year old weak-hitting Minor League journeyman Solarte is silly.

      • chip56 - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM

        The question on Solarte will be answered when teams stop giving him fastballs to hit and he either adjusts or doesn’t. Until then, it’s a nice story, but mostly academic.

      • mianfr - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM

        Kila Ka’aihue had a career .857 OPS in the minors and a number of seasons with significant games that ended with an OPS above 1.000. In the majors? .687.

        There’s a difference between a good minor league hitter and a good prospect. Cano came on at the end of his minor league career, but he was never tops in a weak Yankees system and never regarded as a future superstar in his league.

      • mianfr - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:28 PM

        Also I’m not sure what point you thought I was trying to make, but I’m not trying to project Solarte to be a future star or even a future regular. I’m just highlighting how OPS without context is a useless tool for evaluating prospects.

      • braddavery - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:52 PM

        My point is, he wasn’t good in AAA. That, to me, means that what is happening right now is a just a fluke. I’m sorry I even brought his AAA stats up. I didn’t realize that so many would be so butt-hurt about it and try to find anomalies in attempts to disprove my OPINION that he won’t be a continued success in the Majors. You are right guys, sometimes crappy AAA players become good Major Leaguers and sometimes good/great AAA players don’t end up being good Major Leaguers. I apologize for studying this particular instance and stating my opinion about it. Carry on.

      • clydeserra - Apr 10, 2014 at 4:49 PM

        but not repeating a level and not being aged out.

  4. rbj1 - Apr 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    Maybe he could Wally Pip the other Yankees third base man.

  5. pete2112 - Apr 11, 2014 at 7:52 AM

    Let give him a chance. So far if you’re a Yankees fan you have to like what you see. He’s faced some good pitching and so far he’s been well above average but I’m sure scouts will find his weaknesses eventually. I’m still happy for him.

  6. moogro - Apr 11, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Naming an award after someone tends to trade mystique for legibility. Hockey owns the extreme end of the mystique spectrum.

    Check out this absurd list:

    Prince of Wales Trophy
    Clarence S. Campbell Bowl
    Presidents’ Trophy
    O’Brien Trophy
    Hart Memorial Trophy
    Lady Byng Memorial Trophy
    Vezina Trophy
    Calder Memorial Trophy
    Art Ross Trophy
    James Norris Memorial Trophy
    Conn Smythe Trophy
    Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy
    Ted Lindsay Award
    Jack Adams Award
    Frank J. Selke Trophy
    William M. Jennings Trophy
    King Clancy Memorial Trophy
    Maurice ‘Rocket’ Richard Trophy
    Roger Crozier Saving Grace Award
    Mark Messier Leadership Award

    I have followed hockey my whole life and I have only bothered to memorize maybe a couple of these. But if you are just starting out as hockey fan, you know what award you can understand almost right away and never forget?

    At least for now, it’s called the “NHL Plus-Minus Award.”

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