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“They Don’t Know Henry”

Apr 17, 2014, 8:23 AM EST

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The Baseball Project is the greatest idea ever and, unlike a lot of great ideas, the execution is pretty fantastic too. It’s a supergroup of sorts, consisting of Scott McCaughey, Peter Buck, Mike Mills , Steve Wynn and Linda Pitmon, and all of their music is about baseball. They just put out their third album — appropriately called “3rd” — a couple of weeks ago.

I just heard it for the first time. One standout song among many good ones: “They Don’t Know Henry.” It’s about how, for everything that has ever been said or written about Henry Aaron, not too many people know the real Aaron. As bandleader McCaughey put it in this interview with Riverfront Times:

So much of it was manufactured. It wasn’t him. People wanted him to fit into this niche and be this guy. He was never called Hank in his entire life. Nobody who knew him would ever call him Hank, and they immediately made him “Hammering Hank,” just like when Roberto Clemente came up, he was ‘Bobby Clemente.’ That was not him. That’s the kind of thing that was foisted on these guys, especially in the ’50s if they weren’t white. Aaron didn’t want to be a well-known person. He’s a pretty private guy.

People are still manufacturing things about Aaron. Using him as their avatar for battles over Barry Bonds and steroids. Pouncing on the relatively innocuous things he says in order to take political offense. As if Aaron were at the vanguard of these sorts of political battles as opposed to a man in his 70s merely offering his personal view on the matter or, in some cases, trying to steer clear altogether. It’s a no-win situation for a guy like Aaron in the era in which he came of age and into the public life: be outspoken and flamboyant and you get called a showboat (or far worse). Keep one’s own counsel and speak rarely, have others fill the vacuum with what they’d have you stand for rather than what you do.

Anyway, give a listen. And consider picking up The Baseball Project’s new album:

169 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. jimmyt - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    That was awful.

  2. chargrz - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    We know Aaron is a racist. That’s for sure.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:00 AM

      Please go read “I Had a Hammer” and then, if you still believe the ridiculous crap that comes out of your mouth, kindly step in front of a crosstown bus.

      • nymets4ever - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:09 AM

        Whoa…you are a petty, classless, unprofessional hack. Haha

      • Craig Calcaterra - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM

        No criticism for a guy who said that a man who grew up in Jim Crow Alabama, played in the Negro Leagues and then faced godawful racism his entire adult life was a racist? That’s cool eh?

      • babyfarkmcgeezax - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 AM

        Spare us the self-righteousness, Craig. You are still a fan of a team that openly disrespects Native Americans, so spare us your faux outrage.

      • bdunker - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM

        Anyone who reads Calcaterras articles knows he picks and chooses his racism battles carefully. His tunnel vision reporting on race is common place among his fellow liberals. In their close mindedness they see only white racism and no other. This attitude leads and will lead to many more problems in this country.
        Calcaterra sees himself as some sort of modern day Civil Rights Movement leader.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM

        In their close mindedness they see only white racism and no other.

        Please point out other examples of racism that are prevalent in this country that need to be addressed.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM

        Love this doubleteam entity of nymets4ever and BabyMcFarkFace attacking Craig. It’s like, hey, check these guys out. See how pathetic it is to support slander?

      • asimonetti88 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        [citation needed] fka COPO – Apr 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM

        In their close mindedness they see only white racism and no other.

        Please point out other examples of racism that are prevalent in this country that need to be addressed.
        ————————————————————————————————————————-

        Well, if you’re familiar with the 1992 Los Angeles riots, a large contributing factor outside of the obvious Rodney King incident was the tension between Asian-American (specifically Korean-American) and African-American communities.

        A great movie that illustrates racism is Crash. It shows that racism is a pervasive problem. I would highly suggest it.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:12 AM

        a large contributing factor outside of the obvious Rodney King incident was the tension between Asian-American (specifically Korean-American) and African-American communities.

        We’ll let the 20 year gap between the incident and today slide, but we have to be careful here. From what I remember, there was straight looting of all stores during those riots. So were those specific stores targeted b/c they were Asian owned, or were they looting all stores and many happened to be owned by Asians? The latter isn’t racism, the former is.

      • psukardi - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM

        Go continue your horrible chants where you pretend to ‘scalp’ an opponent. That’s really classy. I guess the Cleveland Indians are your convenient outlet when your fandom blinds you to how horrible the Braves are.

        And anyone that says all republics are racist needs to look in the mirror, as that’s what Aaron said

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:29 AM

        Go continue your horrible chants where you pretend to ‘scalp’ an opponent. That’s really classy.

        He’s repeatedly spoken out against the tomahawk chop.

      • ud1951 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM

        I think we all would like to believe we’d be more like Nelson Mandela if faced with the adversity Aaron was. We all have those better angels, we just don’t always listen to them and follow the path they point to.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM

        I totally love the whitewashing that Mandela has received in order to make him more palatable to mainstream (white) America. Seriously, people, study some history.

      • asimonetti88 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        [citation needed] fka COPO – Apr 17, 2014 at 11:12 AM
        a large contributing factor outside of the obvious Rodney King incident was the tension between Asian-American (specifically Korean-American) and African-American communities.

        We’ll let the 20 year gap between the incident and today slide, but we have to be careful here. From what I remember, there was straight looting of all stores during those riots. So were those specific stores targeted b/c they were Asian owned, or were they looting all stores and many happened to be owned by Asians? The latter isn’t racism, the former is.
        ————————————————————————————————————————————-

        Korean owned stores were targeted. There was a lot of tension in South Central between the Korean and African-American community, as many African-Americans resented the fact that the growing Korean immigrant community was doing business and making money in what had typically been a black area of town. There was also a shooting of a young black girl by a Korean shop owner a few months before the riots that really rose the tensions.

        Yes, they were 20 years ago but they are still issues that are at play in Los Angeles for sure, but certainly across the nation as well.

      • psukardi - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM

        When Craig has an article every other day about the Tomahawk Chop, let me know. Until then, I’ll note the hypocrisy of how there is roughly 10 Chief Wahoo articles a month and maybe 1 Tomahawk Chop article a decade

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:01 PM

        When Craig has an article every other day about the Tomahawk Chop, let me know. Until then, I’ll note the hypocrisy of how there is roughly 10 Chief Wahoo articles a month and maybe 1 Tomahawk Chop article a decade

        Maybe it has to do with the fact that there are plenty of people who [incorrectly] see nothing wrong with Chief Wahoo, and almost no one defends the Tomahawk Chop.

        What do you want him to do, write an article saying the Tomahawk Chop is bad, that the Braves Fans and FSU fans shouldn’t use it, all the commenters say “we agree”, and then have him write another one a month later, just because…

      • grumpyoleman - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        “Maybe it has to do with the fact that there are plenty of people who [incorrectly] see nothing wrong with Chief Wahoo,”

        [citation needed]

        Thank God there is someone around like you to tell everybody what their opinion should be.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        If you think there is nothing wrong with a racist caricature, then yes, you are wrong.

      • psukardi - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        “Thank God there is someone around like you to tell everybody what their opinion should be.”

        Ya, where would we be without constantly being told by Craig that Chief Wahoo is worse than 10 Hitlers and should be scorched from the Earth.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM

        Awww whats the matter, ran out of arguments so you resorted to Godwin’ing the thread?

      • psukardi - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM

        If no one defends the “Tomahawk Chop” then why does it exist? Guess people still do support it.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM

        Are you going to defend it, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?

    • 18thstreet - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM

      If I were forced to play for the Indianapolis Expletive Deleted Clowns, I’d sure as hell be a racist.

      That Henry Aaron is not one is an amazing achievement and a testament to his character.

    • dluxxx - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:18 AM

      Says the racist…

    • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:42 AM

      Wait…how is Aaron racist exactly? As far as I can tell, he pointed out that racism still exists, which makes doesn’t make him a racist, it makes him not a moron.

      This is the cheap argument made by people who have to get defensive about their own racist tendencies because “no I’m not: you are!” the best comeback their feeble brains can come up with. Frankly, I think everyone is way to nice to people like this and humoring them into believing that they are offering anything other than elementary school level commentary on a complex subject just encourages them to keep babbling this idiocy.

      You sir brought nothing to the table. At all. You brought nothing but regression and brought the level of discourse down to an even dumber level. Next time you feel like posting, ask yourself “will this make 90% of those who read it roll their eyes and think ‘what a moron?’”. And I mean moron as in a stupid person, not somebody whose opinions I disagree with.

      • dluxxx - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:55 AM

        I wish I could give more thumbs up to this, but I only get one…

    • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:01 PM

      These white trash losers are just clones of their stupid parents.

    • tfbuckfutter - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:11 PM

      Goddammit…. Where’s the “shut up honkey” guy when you need him?

  3. nymets4ever - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:41 AM

    “It’s a supergroup of sorts, consisting of Scott McCaughey, Peter Buck, Mike Mills , Steve Wynn and Linda Pitmon”

    am i the only one who doesn’t know who the hell any of these people are?

    • largebill - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:45 AM

      Nope. Never heard of any of them.

      • Craig Calcaterra - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM

        Mills and Buck are from REM.

      • babyfarkmcgeezax - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:24 AM

        Where the hell is REM?

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM

        Rock and Roll band.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM

        Athens, Georgia.

    • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:47 AM

      Mills and Peter Buck were in REM who were pretty famous as I recall. McCaughey was in the Young Fresh Fellows and Minus 5, who, while not REM famous, were pretty well known. Wynn was in Dream Syndicate, a fairly popular Rough Trade indie band from the 80s. I have no idea who Linda Pitmon is…

      If you were a fan of 80s/90s indie rock, this would certainly qualify as a supergroup.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:55 AM

        Linda Pitmon’s the drummer and the wife of Scott McCaughey. She’s a rather accomplished writer and musician herself:

        http://www.allmusic.com/artist/linda-pitmon-mn0000830994

  4. cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:44 AM

    There will shortly be no more Colbert Report, otherwise I’m certain I’d see them on there shorty. Damn pity. Is there such a thing as a “Calcaterra Bump”?

  5. metalhead65 - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    I know all I need to know about him from listening to him talk over the years. I know he had it rough setting the record but so did Roger Maris when he set his record. he got death threats and hate mail to from people who wanted Micky Mantel to set the record. Aaron has chosen to hang on to the hate rather than embrace the fans who celebrated when he broke the record. all we hear about is the hate he got and not any of the worship. now I am a racist according to him because I oppose the policies of the worst president in history? I can live with that. how can he expect people to move forward when he and others keep bringing up the past? slavery was wrong and anyone with common sense knows it so stop trying to make me feel guilty about something I had nothing to do with. I disagree with everything the president and his policies stand for not because he is black.and the song is truly awful and just because 2 guys from a band that has not done anything from the 90′s are in it does not make them a super group. centerfield is still the best baseball song there is deal with it!

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM

      You forgot to castigate Dusty Baker in your poorly spelled, terribly punctuated, factually incorrect, and largely incoherent screed. How are we to be constantly reminded of your hate for all things Dusty if you can’t even stay on program, eh?

      • metalhead65 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM

        glad to see we have the grammar Nazi here to make sure everything is perfect. because that is why I come to message boards. face it I will never agree with anything you have to say but stop playing teacher on here. what facts are wrong? are you saying Roger Maris did not receive hate mail and get death threats to? are saying aaron did not get far more fan mail than hate mail? I have never heard him once thank all the people who supported him and believe it or not that included racists like me who had his poster on the wall and who played him when we played wiffle ball as a kid. I hated dusty not because he was black but because of his stupid moves. but if it makes you feel good to call me racist go right ahead I will wear it proudly

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        There it is! ahem

        DANG YOU, Dusty Baker!!! Dang you to HECK!!!!

      • metalhead65 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:51 AM

        you need to seek professional help

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM

        Dude. Thank you. Your concern is very nice. But, um…I AM professional help. So I help myself. Cheers.

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM

        metalhead is just another right wing bass turd with a pea sized brain.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM

        I kind of like metalhead. He’s a cliche. Such people are rare. I treasure their presence. Besides, you can practically get him foaming at the mouf at the mere mention of “Dusty Baker”. I keep thinking I might be able to induce an avoidance behaviour in him. Reforming the behaviour is the first step in correcting the attitude they tell me (at least that what I was told during my student days caring for the differently sane).

      • acepicker4 - Apr 22, 2014 at 3:55 PM

        In all fairness, Dusty Baker was/is a terrible baseball manager. I don’t get upset about it, but then again he never managed my team. Now when I think of Jim Fregosi, Buck Martinez and John Gibbons (one more 1st inning bunt, or Bautista bunt attempt, will put me over the edge) I start to froth at the mouth.

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:09 AM

      I know he had it rough setting the record but so did Roger Maris when he set his record.

      You’ve said a lot of stupid ish over the past year plus in these comments, but this definitely takes the cake. And Obama is really the worst president in history? Please explain…

      • dluxxx - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:26 AM

        If Obama had gotten even half of his policies through congress, I think *maybe* one could try to critique his credentials as president. As it stands, with the absolute stonewalling he’s faced in his 2 terms as president, I’d have to give him a solid C. Not great, not bad, but not the worst by far. I think his predecessor takes the cake on that one…

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:04 PM

        “Lil” gw bush-League: hero to Conservative right wing bass turds like metalhead.

      • acepicker4 - Apr 22, 2014 at 3:58 PM

        Nobody touches Woodrow Wilson for worst president.

    • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM

      First off…really, Obama is the worst president in history. Why, because of some pretty half-assed health care reform that still makes it the least socialist health care system in the Western world? The fact is, when there is a ton of hyperbole around a President that frankly hasn’t gotten very much done, we tend to examine where that hyperbole is coming from and race is really the easier place to look. You are free to not like Obama, but yea…I find the worst President in history tag or a guy who isn’t that liberal and whose foreign policy (which I certainly loathe) is far less militaristic than our last President and more so than the one before that to be a bit suspicious.

      Also, Aaron pointed out that racism still exists and that it takes a different form. How is that hanging on to hate? Do you believe everyone stopped being racist when LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act? What you are asking Aaron and others to do is to ignore racism and it’s changing guise because “ohhh, it makes me feel bad!”. Well, boo-hoo, do something about the racism then instead of attacking the people pointing out the problem. This is the worst kind of appeasement, the kind through sheer ignorance that attacks the messenger.

      • asimonetti88 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM

        cohnjusack – Apr 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM
        First off…really, Obama is the worst president in history. Why, because of some pretty half-assed health care reform
        ————————————————————————————————————————-

        *health insurance reform

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:05 PM

        Worst presidents were all right wing bass turds: Reagan, Nixon, “Lil” bush-League, Hoover. Republicans are the embodiment of stupid.

    • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:15 AM

      You don’t have to take ownership of being racist, you know. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t talking about you because I doubt very seriously you’re wearing a starched shirt and tie.

      • dluxxx - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:33 AM

        More like a stained “wife beater” tee shirt, amiright?

      • 18thstreet - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        When did “wife-beater” become a way of describing a piece of clothing?

        Can we go back to the day before that, and tell the first guy that a t-shirt does not beat women, that people who wear that T-shirt do not beat women, and that it’s pretty repulsive to toss around “wife-beater” to describe anything but a man who literally beats his wife? You can call them sleeveless t-shirts. You can call them, as the manufacturers do, A-shirts. But, please, can we retire the term?

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM

        Did you see the Louis CK bit? So good.

      • Bob Loblaw - Apr 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM

        I thought a wife-beater was a tank top? And when you can’t use the term “wife-beater” to describe a frigging shirt, then this country has gone way to far in its political correctness. I guess it’s bad to say 99% of the people getting arrested on Cops are wearing wife-beaters and have tattoos now too, right? Geeze.

    • 18thstreet - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

      I just noticed that a guy named Metalhead is telling us all what qualifies as good music. And also lecturing us on race and racism, but mostly the music thing.

      • metalhead65 - Apr 17, 2014 at 4:18 PM

        once again and your liberal brethren showing you only preach tolerance and acceptance as long as it supports what you believe in. anything opposite that that then it’s racism if you don’t agree. as for my music I have more good music than you have ever than you ever will hear.

      • 18thstreet - Apr 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM

        Good lord, you’re thin-skinned.

    • 18thstreet - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM

      You know, people of many ideological persuasions toss around “worst president ever” as if history began in 1972. It’s as if these people have never heard of James Buchanan or Warren Harding or Ulysses S. Grant.

      Go read a book, people.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM

        I got kind of depressed watching Captain America 2 the other day when I found out Bucky’s full name is James Buchanan Barnes. What a worthless namesake.

      • metalhead65 - Apr 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM

        those guys are not running the country into the ground right now are they? obummer makes Jimmy Carter look competent.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 4:42 PM

        Of course those guys aren’t running the country into the ground right now, they are all dead.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 17, 2014 at 6:11 PM

        Grant gets under-rated due to blame for things beyond his control.
        (Deserves some for blindly trusting some cabinet members.)

        Your list should add Pierce, Fillmore, Van Buren, Hayes and Arthur.

        For those who say they aren’t mismanaging the country now–the comment was aimed at calling Obama the worst ever, which automatically makes every president fair game.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:33 PM

        Meh, I feel like Van Buren got stuck with the fallout for the horrific cronyism and retaliation of the Jackson years. I’d actually nominate Old Lead Ass for worst president – horrifying fiscal incompetence, unrepentant flouting of judicial authority and mass genocide. Winner winner chicken dinner.

  6. holliswatson - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Always happy to see baseball and good music come together. Even if most of the commenters on this site think Peter Buck is a former play-by-play man for the Cardinals.

  7. bdunker - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    I’m starting to believe that Hank is Calcaterra’s father.

  8. mybrunoblog - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    I’m a huge Hank Aaron baseball fan. How can any baseball fan not be? The guys a legend. That said, his recent comments where he called republicans kkk members were pretty disgusting. He’s an older gentleman so I understand he’s experienced far more in life than I have but Hank is ignorant and still thinks this is 1947.

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:52 AM

      You don’t read so well, eh? Go read what he said again. Here:

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2014/04/07/hank-aaron-40th-anniversary-of-715-home-run-babe-ruth/7432225/?sf24769494=1

      He NEVER ONCE says Republicans are the KKK. Anyone seeing that is reading that into what he said.He voices his opinion that the Republican party has deliberately sabotaged your President: his opinion which he has some cause to believe in and a certain amount of factual evidence to back it up. An opinion he was ASKED about.

      • mannyicey - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:12 AM

        I know, right? He never called the Republican Party the KKK. What he said was that back then, racism was glaring. People would wear white hoods and sheets to show their racism. Now, the racism is hidden. They wear suits and ties to hide their racism. Racism still exists and just because you call it out, it’s a problem?

        See, that’s the double-standard. Once a person calls out racism, that person is a racist. That’s an attempt to tamp down the truth, while racist policies and laws are being established and enforced. And a living hero of baseball is being sent hate mail just because he spoke up.

        Yeah, that’s it, America! I’m glad we can speak openly about these things (sheesh!)

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM

        I’m a Canadian, so I tend to view your politics from a certain distance. Leading up to moving to Florida I was pretty hesitant about how I would do there (since I’m what you would call a “visibly ethnic Canadian”) and I tended to think it was all like you see on the internet: a lot of mindless, uninformed willful ignorance. But, now that I live down in Florida (temporarily for now), I have to say that I am pretty damn impressed with how I’ve been treated. Floridians at least, have been some of the most pleasant and easy to get along with people I’ve ever had the pleasure to have known.

        What I find most troubling though is venues like this: places where people are free to reveal who they actually are and what they really think. THAT’S when I get all appalled again.

        If Aaron used a computer he might have said “the racists just moved to the internet to be loud and proud about it” rather than “hide in starched shirts”.

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM

        It’s the twisted right wing bass turd way to confuse fact with fiction. They don’t need no stinkin’ facts: that’s why they love FOX Fake News for pea brains.

  9. fr0sted21 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    The author of this article told one of its commentators to kill his/her self by stepping in front of a bus. Have some self control, pal. What the hell is the matter with you? How is that okay in your mind, author?

    • American of African Descent - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:40 PM

      This exactly.

      Stepping in front of a bus is messy, disrupts traffic, and slows everyone’s commute. Craig should have told the commentator to put on a lead belt, then to take a ten foot walk off an eight foot pier.

  10. hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    All I know is that Aaron should keep his mouth shut when it comes to politics. He lost me by insinuating that if you hate Obama you are a racist. He insinuated that Republicans are racist. Here’s a guy painting with a broad brush just the way racists do. You could sure hit a baseball Hank, but your mind isn’t thinking clearly or you are just being used by Democratic party like a tool. I always wondered why Willie Mays was more popular than Aaron. I used to think it was just the playing part of his career in New York thing, but now I believe there is much more to it. Mays, while bitter at times, comes off as a guy who embraces and loves life more than Hank Aaron could ever fathom. It must be hard for Aaron to live the twisted life full of paranoia that sees racists everywhere he looks. The Quaker Oats guy on my oatmeal box is a racist. I turn on the news…..a white guy. I look at my neighbors…….all white. Come on Hank, go live in the ghetto so you can really get with the folks you love. They love to talk about how whitey is keeping them down too. “Hey pass that over here Hank. Don’t bogart that joint my friend. Just because you could once hit a baseball. Sheeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!” FREE ADVICE: KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, HANK. Oh, and if you didn’t like to be called Hank and preferred Henry then that’s on you. Roberto made it clear that he didn’t like to be called Bob.

    • dluxxx - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:34 AM

      That might be the most racist thing I’ve read all day. It reminds me of a quote I once heard.

      “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain

      You probably should have just kept YOUR mouth shut…

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:42 AM

        This

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:44 AM

        You’re an idiot, Dluxxxx. If you think I’m a racist come meet my black wife and three biracial kids. I’m sorry that I won’t be an apologist for you “enlightened” racists who think you are better than everyone else. You closet racists who don’t do one thing to help out minorities but sit back and call out others who you think are racists just because they DARE speak the truth. F**k you!!!!!

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:49 AM

        I don’t believe a word of this “My black wife” bullcrap. I’m pretty black myself and if you walked around with opinions like that around me we’d be in each other’s grills pretty damn fast. Your “wife” should kick you in the nards for what you wrote.

      • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM

        This is the long-winded version of “If those uppity black people just kept to themselves and stopped causing a fuss, we wouldn’t have a problem”.

        Also, I don’t recall anyone ever calling the Quaker Oats mascot racist. I do recall “Aunt Jemima” and “Uncle Ben” being labeled as such, and fairly enough to if you are aware of how the terms “Uncle” and “Aunt” fit into black history.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:19 AM

        Don’t be silly, cohn, his wife does the cooking. You can’t expect him to know what’s on all those boxes.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:20 AM

        Also, I don’t recall anyone ever calling the Quaker Oats mascot racist.

        I don’t know, he is a wife beater. Is it so hard to believe that Wilford Brimley could be racist?

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:45 AM

      Its his damn life he was asked about. His opinion and the events that shaped him. The days of The Silent Ni##er are gone, bubba. He was asked, he replied. Same right you have.

      So some free advice to you, Huckleberry: GFY

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:27 AM

        @[citation needed] fka COPO & cohnjusack: FOLLOW THE BOUNCING RED BALL. I’M SORRY YOU AREN’T SMART ENOUGH TO FOLLOW ALONG. I’LL TRY TO DUMB DOWN MY COMMENTS IN THE FUTURE.

        In my writing above it’s Aaron’s paranoia that is seeing the Quaker Oats guy as racist. I never said that the Quaker Oats guy was racist. CONTEXT.

        There are more than a few morons on this site.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:33 AM

        Like the moron who can’t reply to the correct set of comments?

        /golf clap

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:35 AM

        In my writing above it’s Aaron’s paranoia that is seeing the Quaker Oats guy as racist. I never said that the Quaker Oats guy was racist. CONTEXT.

        Settle down Francis. You are making a horrible analogy, and I made a joke. And then you want to say I’m not smart enough to follow along (hint, click the link genius).

        Second, when discussing intelligence, I wouldn’t juxtapose these two comments:

        Come on Hank, go live in the ghetto so you can really get with the folks you love. They love to talk about how whitey is keeping them down too. “Hey pass that over here Hank. Don’t bogart that joint my friend.

        Here’s a guy painting with a broad brush just the way racists do

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:40 AM

        Did I miss something? Aaron thinks the Quaker Oats guy is racist? The not real person on the box? Well! Normally, I would let this slide, but I *am* a white people and there are some things that we just CANNOT abide — and the sullying of oatmeal must be one of them. We are talking wholesome oats here. No one can ingest these miracles of fiber and deliciousness packed into a small flake and not be the better for it. No, sir! That oat man is an angel. Sent from Dietary Heaven…which is right next to where all dogs go, btw.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:41 AM

        Do you put oats in your yucky bread pudding? Maybe that’s what this dude is on about?

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM

        Clearly, he does not get enough oatmeal — or he would be regular and clean that crap out. Clearly impacted there.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:47 AM

        He’s challengin’ me to a duel down below. If he’s really so impacted, perhaps I should call him an ambulance?

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:50 AM

        Two things: careful where you hit him cuz he’s bound to explode and you don’t want that all over you. Also, if he throws like Delmon Young, you have the advantage. May the force be with you.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM

        Now now. I saw Delmon throw out some of my d00dz. He was better than I was ‘spectin’. But you are right. I don’t want any of any part of him on me. I’m gonna stop needlin’ the dweeb now. He’s getting incoherent with rage there and I wouldn’t want him taking it out on his family.

      • paperlions - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:43 PM

        I was reading this thread, and then you guys brought up bread pudding and I REALLY got disgusted.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM

        Mea Culpa. Historiophilliac is completely guiltless here. I am ice cream right now as penance.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:47 PM

        EATING ice cream, I mean. But, if I were ice cream, I’d be mint chocolate chip, my fave.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        Mint chocolate chip goes particularly nicely with German chocolate cake. Another reason cake is superior to pie.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM

        Mmmmm….cake….with ice cream…..

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        Ice cream has no redeeming social value. None. It attempts dessertitude, but hurts your teeth and gives you bloat. It is lactography pure and simple, opposed by all right-minded people and Phyllis Schlafly. It even manages to degrade pie.

        Now, as to that tardylions, someone is going to have to pony up a lot of olives to make up for any bread pudding defamation that goes on in my presence. To quote our Canadian poet: GFY.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        Being opposed by Phyllis Schlafly might be the second-best thing ice cream has going for it, the first being that it’s delicious. And you shut your whore mouth, it most certainly does not ruin a warm apple or blueberry pie. Perfect complements, they are.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:09 PM

        Now now. Lets have some Pax Calcaterra here in the Dessert Wars, folks.

        I think we can all agree that ice cream is a ho that goes with anything and that bread pudding, which may or may not be an abomination unto Dog, can be actually eaten without dying and would be vastly improved with ice cream . . . but lets face it: my shoes would be edible with the right ice cream.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:12 PM

        What?! An Ice Creamist in our midst?! I thought the Yahoos were bad. The Horsemen of the Apocalypse are all up in here. Dark…so dark…

    • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:08 PM

      Take your own advice you long winded blow hard.

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM

        @hateonlyrightwingscum

  11. blugold94 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    It literally makes me feel physically ill reading this and other comments on this site. Hateonlyhatred I’d really like to see a small biography on you….just to know what your life is that led to those words. I have no idea if your neighbors or your TV news guy or anyone else in your life is a racist, but your words prove you are one.

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:47 AM

      Its easy to lose faith in people if you see only the loud bigots. In reality the world is full of decent people. Decent people need to be as vocal as the loud bigots. So a hat tip to Craig, and you too, for being here and saying what you say.

      • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        Really, comments section isn’t the voice of the people. It’s the voice of the loudest, angriest, dumbest people. If the comments section of any webpage were representative of the views of America as a whole, Ron Paul would be President, all currency would be gold and everyone would believe 9/11 was an inside job.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:06 AM

        And thank Dog you’re right, Cohn.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:38 PM

        Cohn, somehow you forgot to add that Pres Obama would have been impeached and exiled to Kenya. (I’m on the opposite side of the aisle from the president, but a lot of what gets posted about him personally is just insane.)

    • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:47 AM

      blugold94 is another idiot. Read my comment above.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:50 AM

        Oh, shut up. No one believes your stupid claims.

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        Bets?

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:59 AM

        Actually no. It could be true. People make terrible relationship decisions all the time. Here’s what you should do though. Show what you wrote to your wife. Ask her how she feels about being known as “The Black Wife”. Ask her what she thinks about your “keep silent about what you went through, Henry Aaron” screed. Then let us all know what her reaction was.

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM

        First of all Cur’68, my wife supports my views 100%. She is an upstanding lady who is ashamed that so many people in her race will use every excuse to stay in the gutter. She, like I, can’t stand Obama and his policies. Guess that makes her a racist? She knows, like every other smart person, that the Democratic Party are champions of economic slavery designed to keep poor people down while throwing them just enough to secure their votes.

        Calling out false racism and labeling people who aren’t racists as such is as terrible of a crime that can be committed. Why? Because it diminishes real racism which is still alive and well. You people are guilty of carrying a message that hurts real racism. You think you are enlightened but you are part of the problem. A very big part of the problem.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM

        Like I said: people make terrible relationship decisions all the time.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:26 AM

        She knows, like every other smart person, that the Democratic Party are champions of economic slavery designed to keep poor people down while throwing them just enough to secure their votes.

        Please explain, in detail, all the ways the Republicans have made life better for minorities. I’ll sit here waiting…

        Calling out false racism and labeling people who aren’t racists as such is as terrible of a crime that can be committed.

        It’s as bad as murdering someone? As bad as molesting children? As bad as inciting a war on lies that leads to hundreds of thousands of innocent people dieing?

        Damn you love hyperbole don’t you…

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM

        @[citation needed] fka COPO: As terrible as a non-violent crime or non-physical crime that can committed. I really didn’t think I had to spell everything out for you.

        I’m not going to sit here and go over the many ways the Republican Party is better not for just minorities but for everyone to a person who won’t listen anyway. I’ve never met a liberal with any common sense yet and that’s the truth. Liberals are fools and their “enlightenment” makes them feel great while doing great harm.

        dieing? Nice spelling.

        Oh, and the Democrats have done a great job at stopping the wars. Right? Obama has droned a lot of innocent people. That’s ok though, right? F**king liberal idiots.

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        Pea Brain right wing scum: the embodiment of DEATH!

      • paperlions - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:47 PM

        Misogynists get married all of the time….that doesn’t cure the fact that they are sexist pigs.

    • dlf9 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:11 AM

      I’m happy for Craig’s professional journey. I’ve been reading him since Shysterball and was around for the original ‘Craig’s wife’ meme on BBTF. But his professional growth has caused him to expand exponentially the number of readers … which has unfortunately caused some complete nitwits to take upon themselves to post messages that are beyond stupid and make me weep for the future if these people are representatives of even a tiny segment of the population.

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:37 AM

        @[citation needed] fka COPO: As terrible as a non-violent crime or non-physical crime that can committed. I really didn’t think I had to spell everything out for you.

        I’m not going to sit here and go over the many ways the Republican Party is better not for just minorities but for everyone to a person who won’t listen anyway. I’ve never met a liberal with any common sense yet and that’s the truth. Liberals are fools and their “enlightenment” makes them feel great while doing great harm.

        dieing? Nice spelling.

        Oh, and the Democrats have done a great job at stopping the wars. Right? Obama has droned a lot of innocent people. That’s ok though, right? F**king liberal idiots.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:50 AM

        @[citation needed] fka COPO: As terrible as a non-violent crime or non-physical crime that can committed. I really didn’t think I had to spell everything out for you.

        You made the sh!tty comparison, not I. So don’t blame me for not understanding your horrible analogy.

        I’m not going to sit here and go over the many ways the Republican Party is better not for just minorities but for everyone to a person who won’t listen anyway

        Name two. I don’t need all of them. Just two.

        dieing? Nice spelling.

        Oh snap I spelled something wrong. World’s going to end now. And note, my grammar and syntax are usually far worse.

        Oh, and the Democrats have done a great job at stopping the wars. Right? Obama has droned a lot of innocent people. That’s ok though, right? F**king liberal idiots.

        I didn’t say Obama or the Dems were better you moron, where do you come up with this stuff? Obama has done plenty of awful things that I’m not proud of as a Democrat. However, since you brought it up, Obama got us out of Iraq and and is getting us out of Afghanistan. And the drone attacks haven’t killed anywhere close to the number of innocent deaths suffered in Iraq.

    • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:10 PM

      He’s a God damn clone of his dumb as sin parents.

      • dluxxx - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:35 PM

        You really aren’t helping at all. I hope you realize that.

  12. temporarilyexiled - Apr 17, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Reading all of this is like standing in a room with full-length mirrors front and back. Where do the images end? Calling racism out brings more of it out. We’re all entitled to feel, think, speak as we please…as long as we do no harm. Those who want to hold on to the darkness should keep it to themselves…and let it die with them when their time comes. The rest of us are moving forward.

  13. jimmyt - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Only white people can be racist.

    • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:08 AM

      AHh, this argument is even more fun. Aaron can’t bring up racism without qualifying the fact that there are also racist of different races? I see this happen a lot when people argue feminism (“well, not all men are misogynist and by not pointing that out, you are implying they are!” ) No..you’re just trying to belittle the argument by making it about something entirely different. If you truly believe the oppression caused to whites by black racism is anywhere close to equal, I can only shake my head.

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:11 AM

      In this society, its pretty much only white people who have the power to make their racism stick. No Arrogant Black Person will ever keep you down. I frame it thus: Power + Prejudice = racism.

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:19 AM

        You are an idiot, cur’68. I left a comment for you above. I’d love to see you ever try to get in my grill.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM

        I’d love to see you ever try to get in my grill

        Sure you would. I haven’t been in a meaningful scrap since a hockey fight in my teens. Didn’t do so well either. But that’s not gonna happen here on the internets, now is it? We can all be oh so tough here. But whatever. I have never once in my life backed down from a racist and I wouldn’t start with you. So, since this venue allows only words, lets do this:

        All we have to compete with are your farcical statements and allegations which you can neither prove nor back up in any meaningful way. You remind me of another poster who was fond of his “my best friend is black” stories and “I was married to a native American” anecdotes. Its all just a load of crap. I STILL don’t believe any of your assertions and NOTHING you write leads me to believe you are anything more than a small minded dweeb.

  14. hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    You are a punk, cur’68. You are the racist.

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM

      Ack! Ya got me! I’m stunned! I stagger helplessly! aaaarrrrgggg! Your cutting wit! Your incisive commentary! Its too much for me….

      pant pant aaaarrrggggg…whimper….beg for mercy…..

      Ok. Uncle. I surrender…

      rofl

    • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:18 PM

      Allow me to respond to this with the exact level of intelligence and discourse it deserves:

      A’hem.

      I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I!

  15. hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    You started the tough talk, cur’68. It was you who said he’d get in my grill. By the way I’m less than 5 hours away from you if you live in the United States. I can prove anything to you. I’ll do DNA tests for you to prove I’m not lying. ALL IT TAKES IS YOUR MONEY TO MAKE IT WORTH MY TIME.

    • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM

      Use the “reply” button, bubba. I gotta track you like a gut-shot chicken, now? Jeez man. Show some class and an ounce of sense. I don’t WANNA KNOW YOU, mmkay? If everything is EXACTLY as you say in your life I EVEN MORE don’t wanna know you. Know why? Because that situation you describe is a FEKKIN TRAGEDY, all right? I see enough tragedy up close and personal in my working life, so I don’t need confirmation that there’s more. Say hello to your good lady wife for me. I’m done messin’ around on the internets with you, so feel free to get the last word in.

      Cheers, sucker.

      • babyfarkmcgeezax - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:05 PM

        FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:16 PM

        That pea brain rigth wing hater is probably a weak pu$$y. He sure sounds like one.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        It really doesn’t matter if he is or is not tough. If he tells the truth or does not. He is, ultimately, a small mined dweeb, regardless of the skin colour of whomever would be so deluded as to marry him. And that there is a tragedy.

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:23 PM

        @Cur’68: The only tragedy is you labeling people as racists who aren’t. Whenever someone disagrees with a liberal about race they label you a racist. Speaking the truth is not racism. I’m not like most other whimpy white men. I don’t cower in a corner when someone falsely calls me racist. Playing the race card does not defeat me or shut me up. I’m not a racist and in reality you are far more racist with your Democratic Utopian views than I ever could be. When will you people wake up and realize that you are separatists. NOBODY focuses and OBSESSES on race like the liberal. You people are sick. You are mentally ill. Get over yourself, you are no better than those who don’t spend every waking hour OBSESSING on race. Why don’t I spend every waking hour obsessing on race like you do? BECAUSE RACE DOESN’T MATTER TO ME!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:32 PM

        If I had one wish that would be granted guaranteed, I would wish for money, of course, because I’m not an idiot. But, if I had two wishes…okay, realistically, if I could make several wishes happen, I have to say that one of them would be to go to his family dinner on Easter and watch as he read this entire exchange to his (imaginary) in-laws et al. I swear, I’d bring potato salad and buy a new dress to go with my green hat and everything so I’d look respectable for it. I need Jimmy Carter to make this happen.

      • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM

        For the record, no one is calling you a racist because you disagreed with a liberal. We’re calling you racist because:

        1). You said a black person complaining about racism should “keep his mouth shut”
        2). Justified this comment by saying you had a black wife (which is exactly the same as justifying a racist statement and pointing out you have a black friend)
        3). Insinuating a large portion of the African-American community uses race as an excuse to “stay in the gutter”

        The third is totally my favorite. It one swoop, you imply that black people love living in poverty AND show your ignorance of a nationwide legacy of racism! Bravo!

      • cohnjusack - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM

        Why don’t I spend every waking hour obsessing on race like you do? BECAUSE RACE DOESN’T MATTER TO ME!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!

        This is an amazing statement from someone who literally just made 12 posts about race.

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:39 PM

        @cohnjusack: Your foolishness gets more absurd with each post. You are great at taking things out of context or filtering them through your polluted mind and spitting them out as blatant lies. Somebody has to stand up to you bullies. Your distortion of truth has gone on far too long.

        1. I didn’t say what I said about Aaron because he was black. I said what I said about Aaron because he is ignorant or disingenuous. Probably disingenuous because I think he’s a smart guy. His claims of Republican racism are baseless. NEWS FLASH: There are many Democratic racists as well. His claims of people not liking Obama on the basis of race are either ignorant or disingenuous. I’m sorry, Aaron is a bitter, bitter man who has lived a better life than most. He gets more adulation in a day than most get in a lifetime. Embrace the beauty of your life and tell the horrible tales of racism you endured without being ignorant or disingenuous, Hank. There are lessons to be taught and learned but baseless lies make him look like a fool. I, unlike you, didn’t see any color in the man making the remarks. I tell a fool to keep his mouth shut no matter how much melanin or lack of melanin he has in his skin.

        2. I merely pointed out that I have a black wife and three biracial children because I’ve seen racism up close and personal more than most of you talking about racism on this post. I despise it. Say what you want but a racist white male would never marry a black woman and produce three kids over that marriage. A racist wouldn’t still be married after 20+ years. It’s ridiculous. If you haven’t gone through it you really can’t speak about it. Sorry, I’m not a racist and labeling me as such shows just how easily and poorly the words of racism are thrown around.

        3. I never insinuated that a large portion of the black race used their race as an excuse to stay in the gutter. Large portion? Where do you come up with this stuff? I said “so many people” in the black community do use it as an excuse. My wife agrees. I stand by that. I’m telling the truth. I’ve seen it up close and personal. I’ve tried to help some who thought like this. I will not hold my tongue from speaking the truth.

        4. I never implied that black people love living in poverty. That’s a made up cohnjusack special. Nobody likes living in poverty but what are you willing to do to get out of it. I’ll look anyone in the eye who is living in poverty and ask that question. Most aren’t willing to do what it takes. They aren’t willing to sacrifice. Most who live in the ghetto would rather play the victim and take their measly government hand outs. It’s a learned behavior that the Democratic Party wholeheartedly supports. Yes, there is a lot of weed being smoked in the ghetto. My comment about Aaron going down there, leaving his cozy white collar and starched shirt existence, and sharing some of that weed with his “everyone is racist” cohorts was a jab at the man who wouldn’t know a ghetto from a middle class neighborhood. Sorry, no racism, just more ignorance of Aaron and his statements being brought to light. It’s a funny scenario if you think about it though. If it was on SNL you’d laugh your ass off.

        5. I don’t spend every waking hour thinking about race like you guys do. I’m only posting about it to show your ignorance on the subject. Those who dwell on race like you are the true racist. People like you can’t see anything without looking at race. It’s disgusting. You are separatists. Everything boils down to race. Get over yourself. If you ever want to fight real racism I’ll stand right beside you and be ready to go to war. Truth is, I have no tolerance for ignorance whether it’s racism or the nonsense spewing from Aaron’s mouth.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

        His claims of Republican racism are baseless. NEWS FLASH: There are many Democratic racists as well.

        For someone who used baseless at least three times in one paragraph, how about a citation on that? Or are you still trying to come up with two ways Republicans have helped minorities?

        I merely pointed out that I have a black wife and three biracial children because I’ve seen racism up close and personal more than most of you talking about racism on this post. I despise it.

        While despising racism, you made a blanket statement about how Hank should go back to the ghetto to be with the people he loved and smoke marijuana…

        Large portion? Where do you come up with this stuff? I said “so many people” in the black community do use it as an excuse.

        So your phrase of “so many people” should be implied as what, exactly?

        5. I don’t spend every waking hour thinking about race like you guys do. I’m only posting about it to show your ignorance on the subject.

        You are making a ton of assumptions while accusing others of being “baseless”. Then you fall back on arguments of authority to “show our ignorance”.

        Try again

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

        I hater’s argumental strategy is;

        1)sheer volume of hot air

        2)exclamation points

        3)reiterating stuff he makes up

        4)wild self aggrandizing claims

        5)doing precisely what he claims others are doing

        6)being as dumb as possible

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 11:55 AM

      He’s Canadian, so look for the blue igloo with the Jays logo imprinted in it.

      • cur'68 - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:11 PM

        And my sled dog.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM

        WordPress ate my funny about his scam to get us to send him money for “genetic testing.” :(

    • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      You’re like your loser buddy that Dick, Cheney: a towering combination of inhumanity and cowardice. Jimmy Carter was among the most honest of our presidents, and look how he was attacked. Jimmy Carter had more honesty in his little finger than the whole POS
      Republican party has combined. Look how crooked Reagan and the Republicans were when they made a deal with Iran to HOLD the U.S. hostages so Reagan could win the election.

      Republicans are the embodiment of RACISM because racism is akin to ignorance and Republicans are stupid asses.

      • jimeejohnson - Apr 17, 2014 at 12:27 PM

        Again: my comment directed toward hateonlyrightwingbassturds but is meant to be inclusive of all Conservatives.

  16. jrob23 - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    man there are a lot of liberal p.o.s. on here

    • pisano - Apr 17, 2014 at 1:52 PM

      @jrob23…. I call them liberal lunatics, as far as Aaron goes, he’s as big a racist as the people he’s capping on, and by the way, the world is racist, wherever you go in this world there’s racism toward one group or another. Get used to it, and get over it.

      • Reflex - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

        So when you experience racism your entire life, dare talk about it publicly, and then experience even more racism as a result, YOU are the one being a racist?

        How does that work?

        BTW, as a fellow Italian you should be a little more sensitive to this. It wasn’t very long ago when we weren’t considered equal either. My grandparents had stories…

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 2:34 PM

      the ad hominem attack, the last bastion of those without an argument

      • raysfan1 - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:24 PM

        Ad homonym attacks are the penultimate bastion of those without an argument. That is because the person has to at least make the effort to state their opponent’s views should be disregarded due to the supposed personal flaw irrelevantly being pointed out by the attacker.

        The actual last bastion is the stand-alone personal insult. The person doing the insulting doesn’t even bother trying to connect the insult to his opponent’s views.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM

        Hominem, not homonym. Dang autocorrect.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:55 PM

        No homo.

  17. hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    You can’t argue with liberals. They are unbelievably ignorant. I’ll just continue to live well and smile at these fools. Living well, the best revenge. Amen, because I love liberal jealousy more than any other jealousy.

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 4:44 PM

      What’s there to be jealous of? Trying to make an argument backed up with zero facts, and when you are called out on, refusing to answer? Using arguments from authority as if it has any weight?

      • hateonlyhatred - Apr 17, 2014 at 5:44 PM

        COPO the clown. I refuse to educate those who can’t be educated. You have to be mildly retarted to think you’ve ever written anything of substance to me. Why are you jealous? The same reason all liberals are jealous. You can’t do for yourself so you want to take mine. Socialism…………that’s your motto. Killing babies, socialism, legalizing drugs…..it’s a great Democratic Party you support.

        Don’t spend all your welfare money in one place, son. That check is only coming once a month no matter how much begging you do.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 6:30 PM

        What’s there to be jealous of? Trying to make an argument backed up with zero facts, and when you are called out on, refusing to answer? Using arguments from authority as if it has any weight?

      • Kevin S. - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:42 PM

        This canard again? You do know that the highest ratio of welfare to income is right in the Bible Belt, right? That blue states consistently send out more in taxes than they take in in federal spending? That Romney’s infamous 47% includes core constituencies such as enlisted military members, seniors and downscale whites? No, of course not, you’re a effing dumbass who believes whatever your corporate overlords tell you.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 17, 2014 at 8:49 PM

        Kevin, He doesn’t want dirty negros and Mexicans to end up feeding their kids with his hard earned money.

        It belongs right where God intended….in the pockets of the Koch Brothers and the Walton family.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:22 PM

        in the pockets of the Koch Brothers and the Walton family.

        Speaking of the Koch brothers, look at what they just helped fund in TN:

        http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-koch-brothers-are-trying-to-ban-an-entire-transit-technology

        Helped TN ban Bus Rapid Transit systems. So tell me again how Republicans/Conservatives are helping the downtrodden/lower classes…

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 17, 2014 at 9:29 PM

        At least their crap is starting to actually filter into the “lamestream” media and they are getting the exposure they deserve.

        So much so that they have to issue press releases claiming they aren’t awful awful aholes.

    • tfbuckfutter - Apr 17, 2014 at 6:51 PM

      So….liberals are ignorant but also called elitist because of the fancy schools they attend?

      That’s an interesting dichotomy your demagogues have created.

      Also, what does “retarted” mean?

      (Also, you do realize there are a LOT of white people in the South who are on government assistance and vote overwhelmingly Republican, right?)

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  4. R. Martin (2969)
  5. Y. Tomas (2770)
  1. J. Heyward (2529)
  2. M. Scherzer (2449)
  3. T. Hunter (2237)
  4. A. LaRoche (2123)
  5. B. Butler (2007)