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HBT Daily: Is Donald Sterling going to get Schotted?

Apr 28, 2014, 2:00 PM EDT

  1. jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:21 PM

    He should get the team taken away from him, but it sounds like that will be tough to do and I’m not sure that’s a fitting punishment. Charles Barkley put it pretty well this morning, telling him he’s out of the league and here’s $700 Million dollars for the team you bought for $12 million isn’t exactly a punishment. It might make more sense for a big fine (payable to a minority charity) and maybe a year or two suspension.

    Not entirely sure how to feel about it. My family continued supporting the Reds, even after learning that Marge Schott was a loon stuck in the 50s. People cheer for teams, not owners. I even have fond memories of her because she seemed like she wanted to win as much as I did. All over town there are Marge Schott parks and boy scout buildings and other charity stuff. She did so much for Childrens Hospital in Cincinnati that it’s hard to hate her. It sounds like Donald Sterling has done some crazy amounts of charity as well. I guess the best way for this guy to go away (as Schott mostly did) is to take the team, but I just don’t know that it can happen.

    • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM

      Also, I saw someone posted yesterday that it should not be on the players to do something about this. I disagree wholeheartedly. People cheer for teams, not owners and fans will continue to go to games. The NBA is built in a way that gives a lot of powers to players. The Clippers are irrelevant without Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. They can’t just walk away, but they could get out of there eventually and that would cripple the team. If max players stay away it’s a direct shot to Sterling’s pocketbook. It might take some time, but the players will have the power in this one if the league doesn’t do enough to punish Sterling.

    • stoutfiles - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:48 PM

      “but it sounds like that will be tough to do”

      Probably not. He owns a franchise, not the NBA…they can force him out if they really want. Of course, if he has any business sense, he’s going to want to sell the team since all the sponsors are going to pull out,no self-respecting player will want to play for the Clippers when they’re a free agent, and many fans won’t go to games anymore.

      “here’s $700 Million dollars for the team you bought for $12 million isn’t exactly a punishment.”

      He may be a racist asshole, but you don’t get to take away ALL of his money because of it. The best you can do is give him the largest fine you can and have him sell the team. He’s going to take a huge hit on the value so there’s that too.

      • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        Apparently the contracts between owners are secret, but those in the know are pretty much saying that the rules are written in a way that only allows for taking the team if it is financially incapable of running itself. The best they can hope for is that they tell him to sell and the fact that he’s very old might make it so he doesn’t care too much anymore.

        And I’m not advocating for him getting nothing in return for his investment, simply saying if the goal is to punish him, it’s a tough thing to do. If he agrees to sell, all of the sponsors will come back, the players won’t go anywhere, and the value will be exactly what it was last week before all of this happened. There are more people that want NBA teams than there are teams to have.

  2. rbj1 - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Let’s hope so. Give him fair market value for the team. It’s hard to do anything right now, in the playoffs, but if I’m Coke or Budweiser or Nike, come next fall, I’m not associating my product with Sterling. Corporate sponsors and other owners have to realize he’s too toxic to continue owning the team.

  3. imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    I’m guessing he will sell
    He’s losing sponsors fast and if there is a fan exodus that should be enough for him to sell the team.

    So no, I don’t think he’s getting Schotted but I do think he will be out.

  4. dexterismyhero - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Maybe he could get scharted at the same time!!!!

  5. tysonpunchinguterus - Apr 28, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    I don’t see how the league can let him continue to run the team. I don’t know what the league rules are as far as forcing him to sell the team, but he definitely needs to go away. Not only is he a racist, but he seems completely obilvious to the fact that he’s a racist. Add in that he seems to treat women like possessions and you have yourself a guy who would be quite the lonely little fella were it not for his fortune. And when you consider how he treats women and his views on race, one has to wonder if he doesn’t view his players as possessions, too. Gratned, all owners of major sports franchises view their players as commodities to some extent since they can trade them at will in most cases unless there’s a no-trade clause in a player’s contract, but his view of people seems to cross the line into the area where you wonder if maybe he thinks it’s 1814 instead of 2014.

    • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:01 PM

      That girl was his possession. He’s sick for making it that way but she’s sick for allowing herself to become slave to him for money. She’s basically a high end prostitute in my book, she sold herself to him for 4 cars, a house, and $250,000 cash.

      • rbrister23 - Apr 28, 2014 at 7:51 PM

        Most of us do things we don’t love for money. She just got paid better.

  6. DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    Like everyone else over the age of 25, I thought of Margie right away with this. But I have to say – I really did forget some of her big transgressions. Like half the stuff around John McSherry’s death

    • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:04 PM

      Read Posnanski’s post over at NBC sports. I’ve always thought she was a little insensitive about John McSherry’s death, but she basically just said what a lot of us were thinking. What a sad downer on what should have been a happy day. It didn’t come across to me like she was mad about it. Her big transgressions were her overt racism. Like Sterling she was pretty clueless about how to keep something like that private.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:07 PM

        I didn’t mean to say one was bigger than the other – just saying I forgot how often she was stepping in dog-do

      • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:09 PM

        Imagine if she had been around in the Twitter World. She would have lost the team a long time before she did.

        One thing I liked about Marge was that she was cheap. She was very upset when the Reds and Bengals got stadium deals. She believed the teams should share a stadium because it made more sense economically. She wasn’t going to go spending so much tax payer money for new toys.

  7. koufaxmitzvah - Apr 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    I guess you missed that post about racism. And, yeah, disparaging basketball players as “monkeys” on a baseball blog counts as being racist.

    But, yeah, gee, I wonder why not one of us would have the decency of listening to you.

    • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:08 PM

      he’s already been banned! I guess that makes our comments a little irrelevant now.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:44 PM

        Ooh, who was it this time?

      • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM

        I didn’t make a mental note of the name, only noticed that it wasn’t a completely new guy. Someone I’ve seen around before.

  8. koufaxmitzvah - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Donald Sterling has been a terrible basketball owner. Without Chris Paul, he’s still a basement dweller team owner whom nobody wants to play multiple seasons for. His dismissal of Elgin Baylor was shameful. That was the first sign this guy is trouble for the NBA. When a Hall of Famer says the owner possesses a plantation style operating procedure, there’s something wrong.

    David Stern got out just in time.

    • jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:07 PM

      It bothers me that the Clippers were basically given Chris Paul. The NBA basically made Donald Sterling relevant again by vetoing the trade to the Lakers. It would be a lot easier to get him out of the league if his team weren’t successful now and making big $. They knew what Sterling was and enabled it.

  9. jm91rs - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    Nice knowing you, I’m guessing you’re the next one banned from the site. Please don’t come back.

  10. anxovies - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    I liked Marge’s dog, though. It was a little thin on baseball strategy but could quickly sniff out a good rookie prospect.

  11. mikhelb - Apr 28, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    For what I read, Sterling is not quite how Marge Schott was; Marge cared for his team and despised losing, and that partially seemed to be what had people torn and “accepting” or maybe closing their eyes to her largelly obnoxious and radical points of view… it is as if both are stuck in some kind of medieval age, where people belong to them.

    I expect Sterling gets the boot for good, his team put up on sale and a portion of the money given up to charity.

    I met with a couple of friends yesterday and again today and they were concerned about what the jewish community should have to do to distance themselves from that type of people, his comments about how blacks are treated in Israel are nothing but troubling; I do not know how things are over there except for the international news (wich apparently some agencies are banned in the US unless they adhere to a narrative) but surely to think it is acceptable just because somebody does it, should not serve as a paliative in the sanctions I expect for the NBA to enforce.

    Not only that, but it is troubling to see how racism still exists in the developed world as well as in less developed places, during the weekend there was also the incident of a soccer player being heckled in spain (where racism against hispanoamericans is rampant and accepted against what most call “sudacas” and unless hispanoamericans from various countries have a letter of recommendation from a spaniard, they are not accepted to enter spain).

  12. gbart22 - Apr 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    One of my biggest pet peeves is the fact there seems to be an accepted double standard in this country. African Americans that I’ve been around, my sister only dates black guys and my cousin is in an interracial marriage and my work place is a melting pot, is the fact that it’s ok for them to be disrespectful and joke about white people and say it’s ok because of our history and were all just supposed to accept it and it’s ok for them to be very hateful towards gays and say it’s ok because the bible says it’s ok. Spreading hate in any form is still spreading hate and shouldn’t be justified in any manor towards anyone. I listen to some heads of some African American activist groups and they condemn hate towards them but tolerate it towards other groups like gays. If we as a society really want to end hate we have to end it in all forms no matter where it comes from. That’s just my opinion in racism and hate in this country though I also think people need to be able to laugh at themselves and that seems to be a dying trait and not for the better.

    On to stirling while i certainly don’t agree with what was said I also feel he said in private or in what he thought was private and I’d be more outraged if it were said to an employee. Still they can’t force him to sell the franchise is not a publicly traded commodity it’s private and at most they can banish him from the league but they can’t remove the team from him and if they tried they’d end up in court and I don’t think the nba wants a long protracted legal battle. If the family wishes to retain the team one of his kids or his wife will have to take over as the face of the ownership and that’s about as much as they can do. Now they could try to persuade him to sell and he’d probably fetch something close to a billion for it given the way of media and television contracts and the potential future profits and the market it’s in and maybe the family would want that but you can’t for him just because you don’t like him. The Koch brothers are some of the biggest bigots in the country yet they own a lot of businesses as well as a nice slew of super pacs and a whole host of republican politicians and they actually have the wherewithal and do often influence legislation against environment and against minorities of all race and sex in this country that people will actually feel. They are the real boogeymen but no one seems to care and no one forces them off their company boards and out of politics.

  13. jimmyt - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:49 AM

    If this is the first time a white guy ever told his girlfriend he didn’t want her seen hanging out with black guys please tell us where your Utopia is and how one gains citizenship.

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