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Tweet of the Day: Exactly how I figured the Donald Sterling ban would spill over into baseball

Apr 29, 2014, 4:10 PM EDT

I just want to go on record as saying that I called this within 20 minutes of Don Sterling getting banned by the NBA today:

And there it is:

God love the Pete Rose Truther Brigade. Never has any leader had a more loyal and dogged fighting force doing his work for him.

  1. cur'68 - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    So Sterling and hateonlyhate got banned on the same day? Nice.

    • historiophiliac - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:28 PM

      It’s a Random Day Miracle!

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM

      Ah man, I missed his response. Let me guess, he’s right and everyone is wrong, ad hominem attacks, liberals are awful people, and lots of choice four letter words?

      please tell me it was glorious…

      • cur'68 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:22 PM

        Glorious indeed. It was directed at Kevin and it involved threats of neck wringing, an inch of life beating, and other kinds of GBH. There were all caps, multiple exclamation marks, and doubtless foaming at the mouth. Clearly being asked for proof of his assertions drove him over the edge.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:03 PM

        Who measures lives in inches?

        I go centimeters. It sounds like I’m accomplishing more.

      • cur'68 - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:15 PM

        That’s because you aren’t insane, tfb. Just nuts.

      • ditto65 - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:16 PM

        Curse my job! I KEEP MISSING THESE BANS!!!! I WANT TO BE FORE-WARNED. D@#N LIBERALS WITH THEIR LEFT-WING AGENDAS!!!

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:18 PM

        cur, Get Twitter.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:25 PM

        @tbuckfutter – Why do you hate America?

      • cur'68 - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:26 PM

        I would get twitter but I wast too much time as it is. I’m supposed to be preparing a speech for ~200 NICU staff on thursday, complete with slides and knowing WTF I’m talking about. Instead I’m loafing around, wasting time on HBT and thinking about my FL Baseball team. At the rate I’m going I’ll be presenting on Optimization of Baseball Lineups Based on OPS and Mean Points/Day. There’s only a limited audience for that. Sadly.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM

        If you don’t want to use Twitter don’t use Twitter. But don’t just make up a bunch of stuff and think that if it’s confusing enough you won’t be challenged on your excuse.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

        Kevin, I don’t hate America, I just like bigger numbers.

        “I’m going to beat you to within 2.54 centimeters of your life” sounds better than “an inch”.

        If you really want to scare someone you can bring in percentages. “I’m going to beat you to within two point five percent of your life.”

        All of this is academic of course because nerds don’t beat up anyone.

      • cur'68 - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:48 PM

        LOL, what made up stuff? I’m literally working on a power point presentation for a conference on NICU (that’s Neonatal Intensive Care Unit) infants RIGHT NOW. I’ve been loafing the whole day on HBT, re-setting my FL Baseball lineup since some games have been postponed (Baltimore/Pittsburgh and Dodgers/Twins), and messing around on the presentation in a kind of “I wish I hadn’t signed up for this thing” way. Man, I can only imagine how much LESS of this thing I’d have got done if I’d been ALSO twittering away. I don’t know if you can tell, tfb, but I kind of like chatting about baseball and other nonsense so the ONLY reason I DON’T have twitter is because of the massive amount of time I’m already wasting. I’d actually get twitter if it wasn’t for all the goofing off I already do.

        Obviously I need to sign off for the day.

        Cheers.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:55 PM

        You’re clearly working too hard if you’re missing the sweet, subtle tones of tbuck’s sarc.

        And 2.54 centimeters sounds better… IF YOU’RE A COMMUNIST!

        Percentages just might be the Mark of the Beast.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 29, 2014 at 8:06 PM

        I give 666% to every post.

        Except this one.

        I only gave 110%.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:27 PM

        Slacker.

      • dcarroll73 - Apr 30, 2014 at 12:58 AM

        (Sorry if this is out of place, but wordpress is not very good at ‘replies-to-replies’)
        “And I curse the life I’m living
        And I curse my poverty
        And I wish that I could be,
        Oh, I wish that I could be,
        Oh, I wish that I could be
        Richard Cory.”
        (Or one ten thousandth as good as Pete Rose, and I’m a Giants/Yanks fan.)

    • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM

      5 uncivil HBT commenters axed in <48hrs. Glorious.

      • cur'68 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:38 PM

        Matter of time with that guy. I find it highly ironic he got nailed on the very post about how to NOT act like a total dick on the blog.

        I saw your comment about it was like he was trying to get banned. Maybe on to something there. Clearly he doesn’t belong on a venue where people contradict and argue with one another all the time and I think he could tell that. At the same time he couldn’t be seen to be backing down. Hence, say just enough to get the punt.

        The funny thing is he might have had a solid point or two in there but he kept lapsing into insults and getting all outraged that people would challenge him. Guy needed a thorazine dart to the butt in the worst way.

      • mybrunoblog - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:35 PM

        Can’t these “banned” HBT posters just sign in on another name or IP address, start their mayhem again and possibly get banned again? An endless cat and mouse game.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:05 PM

        I agree, it was a matter of time. I had one “debate” with him, on the PED issue–his argument essentially was that steroids are the worst evil ever other than liberals and all users should be banned from the sport but amphetamines are okay and should be legalized. His idea was that enable performance rather than enhancing it. Any effort on my part to get him to see the obvious logic flaw in that was met with insults, so I wrote it off as a failure to communicate. It’s why, even though I commented in the thread where he finally got himself banned, I never addressed him.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:12 PM

        Bruno–
        Yes, they could. “Hate” even said as much in another thread earlier. However, that requires effort.–more effort than the “you’re outta here” mouse click by Craig to banish them.

        It’s also possible to contact Craig, promise to play nice, and get forgiven. Of the recently banned, I can only see Harry maybe doing that eventually.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:36 PM

        There are easy ways around it (which I won’t go into), but say being banned at your home location it isn’t easy to get around. Also most of the people banned would get banned again in a short while, a la bicepts’ b/c they just can’t help themselves.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM

        Huh, comment didn’t go through. Who were the five?

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:24 PM

        I know about dirtyharry, vivabear, nymets and hateonlyhatred. Who was the fifth?

      • aresachaela - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:41 PM

        Probably the guy who called me b**** back in the Michael Pineda pine tar incident. If not may the martians abduct him right on the spot.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:55 PM

        Sandrafluke was the first to go. (Note sure if I’m spelling the name right)

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:16 PM

        Ah, that’s right. I’d forgotten about him.

    • American of African Descent - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:50 PM

      How do you know who got banned?

      • Kevin S. - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:59 PM

        In this case, the post that got hateonlyhaters the hammer was edited to [BANNED]. Sometimes the post just disappears, though. Craig sometimes reveals the blacklist when asked.

      • jm91rs - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:36 PM

        There was one last night calling people monkeys. I don’t think he’s one of the 5 you mentioned.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 30, 2014 at 8:36 AM

        In the Donald Sterling/Marge Schott thread? Did we ever figure out who that was?

        Not gonna lie, I sometimes wish posts that get people the hammer didn’t disappear. I get that they typically have to be horrifically offensive to get run here, but sometimes it helps to be able to laugh at just how awful anonymity can make some people. Maybe some way of hiding the comment with a label of “offensive?” That way, people can choose whether or not to look.

      • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM

        I know you can do it in bbcode but not sure about html, there’s “spoiler” tags so you have to click the tag to see the actual comment

  2. rbj1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    Sure I can forgive him, he seems like a tragic figure these days. But the rules are the rules and they apply equally to all. Betting on a game in which you have a duty to perform results in permanent ineligibility. And if you’re permanently ineligible you don’t get into the Hall of Fame.

    • johnnysoda - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

      Keep in mind, though, he accepted his lifetime ban on the grounds that he could be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Conveniently, right after he got banned, the Hall enacted the “you’re banned from MLB, you’re banned from here” rule.

      • Craig Calcaterra - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

        If he accepted the ban from MLB thinking that guaranteed him Hall of Fame eligibility, he’s dumber than we think. What with MLB and the Hall of Fame being two separate entities and all. He’d be just as right to think that accepting the ban would ensure him that I’d like him forever and ever.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:35 PM

        …and he also had the example of Shoeless Joe Jackson not being in the Hall even after being dead for years at that point too.

      • jm91rs - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

        Craig, Pete signed something saying he’s banned from baseball, and he knew it was not related to his Hall of Fame eligibilty at that time. I don’t think Johnnysoda is implying that Pete signing the document was guaranteeing him admittance to the Hall of Fame, just that he rightfully (at the time) assumed a baseball ban was unrelated to a Hall of Fame ban.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:08 PM

        I guess that means Pete wasn’t quite quick enough.

      • mmeyer3387 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:36 PM

        Johnnysoda, you are spot on. Rose clearly deserved a life time ban as a manger. That being said, the truth is very simple, he was definitely great ball player that still holds some records that even MLB players from the PED era have not been able to break. How can it be justified to ban Rose from the Hall of Fame, when he didn’t get banned as player? Furthermore, no one denies his talent or accomplishments have always been worthy of the HOF.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:11 PM

        I find Rose’s accomplishments less impressive since coming to the realization that having the most Plate Appearances of all time (1800 more than 2nd place and the equivalent of almost 3 full seasons and 1700 more ABs) and the 173rd best batting average kind of devalues the hit record.

        Basically, 172 players would have bested his hit record but for the opportunities.

        He should get more credit for his longevity than his hits.

      • bigharold - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:12 PM

        “Keep in mind, though, he accepted his lifetime ban on the grounds that he could be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Conveniently, right after he got banned, the Hall enacted the “you’re banned from MLB, you’re banned from here” rule.”

        Keep in mind that he accepted his life time ban because he was cold busted. Had there been a milometer of wiggle room Rose would have faught it to the bitter end.

        I’ve NEVER heard a thing regarding a quid pro quo for his acceptance of the life time ban. And, the rule modification by the HoF likely had a great deal to do with the fact that even after he accepted the life time ban he continued to insist, for 15 years, that he was innocent.

        Eventually, Rose should be inducted, .. hopefully before he’s dead. But, Pete Rose only need look into the mirror to see who is responsible for him not being in the HoF. He bet on baseball, he lied about it and after he admitted it a decade and a half later he still rationalized it. It’s only recently that he’s made statements hat appear to be unconditionally apologetic for his actions. Suggesting that there is ANY linkage between this reprehensible buffoon Sterling and Rose’s situation is just another BS rationalization.

      • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:22 PM

        Mmeyer–
        A person is either in the HoF or is not. People who are in who were both players and managers only get one plaque that covers both aspects of their career. In short, you can’t ban Pete arose the manager and induct Pete Rose the player.
        Example, Casey Stengel’s plaque:

  3. jm91rs - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    “God love the Pete Rose Truther Brigade. Never has any leader had a more loyal and dogged fighting force doing his work for him.”

    I’ll argue that never has any “leader” had a more loyal and dogged fighting force working AGAINST him as well. The crazies come out from both sides of the fence when his name is mentioned. Sadly the only way it all goes away is if he gets in The Hall and time passes. Dead or alive, Pete Rose out of The Hall isn’t going away.

    • historiophiliac - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM

      How are these alleged crazies working against him? What more are they trying to do to him?

      • jm91rs - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:40 PM

        The same thing the crazies that are working for him are doing, which is tell at the top of their lungs that he’s either the best thing baseball had or the worst person sport has known. What they are actually “doing” for him is nothing at all, just like the other side.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:41 PM

        So, it’s crazy to respond to the crazies who keep pushing for him? I’ll buy that.

      • jm91rs - Apr 30, 2014 at 8:00 AM

        It’s crazy to engage in any debate about Pete Rose, because no one is going to change their mind and everyone will fight it to the death. It simply doesn’t make sense to argue with a crazy person (doesn’t matter which side of the fence that crazy person is on). It took me a few years to see it, but I’ve given up the efforts and it’s much more enjoyable to laugh about how people are so obsessed with him getting in or obsessed with keeping him out. He’s baseball’s greatest monster (no offense to Mr. Rodriguez) and baseball’s most loved, all at the same time. People have lost their minds when it comes to Pete Rose. There’s no other retired player that will generate 100+ comments every time he is mentioned on this site, and it’s probably about a 50/50 split on love and hate.

    • mmeyer3387 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:57 PM

      I agree with your statements. Lets just keep this simple, as a baseball player, where Rose’s accomplishments worthy of being in the Hall of Fame? As I was growing up in the 70’s I remember
      Rose worshiped as a great blue collar ball player that was viewed as the most competitive and fairest player in the MLB. I’m far from being a Rose cool aid drinker or hater. In my own opinion, I do not like Rose as a person, but respect his accomplishments for what I saw; a great baseball player. Clearly, Rose should have been in the Hall of Fame already. I view Rose, somewhat like I see Ty Cobb, a great player on the field, but someone I don’t care for as a person. Cobb is where he belongs and Rose should accompany him in the Hall of Fame. One other thing, I’m sick of all of sports writers that push their views of who we should love or who we should dislike. And telling us what we should think.I’m very much against sports journalist getting to vote for the enshrinement or player into the Hall of Fame. If they get to pick and chose why can’t the public vote as well?

      • thetruthstings - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

        AMEN!!! AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!! Finally Someone who makes sense! Thanks mmeyer3387! Most Sports Writers are “Biased Political Agenda Pushers Who Know Little or Nothing about the Sports that they Supposed to Cover”! They Are Full of Negativity Because They Wrongfully Believe That is what keeps us The Public Coming Back and what We The Public want to hear! Nothing could be farther from the truth!!! I say that MOST Sports Writers should not get to vote on the HOF! They should have to pass a Sports History Test among other requirements! The Public should also get to vote and a player should have no limit on the years that they are eligible! Do any of these Sportswriters even evaluate their statistics and or accomplishments? I bet less than 10% study the backs of the players baseball cards? I am Sickened by the lack of knowledge and Bias of today’s idiot reporters!!!

      • largebill - Apr 30, 2014 at 7:29 AM

        mmeyer,

        You’re completely missing the point. His playing career is not being debated. If all that mattered was statistics and accomplishments then Joe Jackson would have been enshrined 60 some years ago. When Rose decided to bet on baseball (and don’t insult your own intelligence by claiming that didn’t take place until he was a manager) he knew what the result would be if caught. He got caught let him live with Jackson’s fate.

  4. natstowngreg - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Any decent person can forgive. Pete Rose transgressed on multiple levels, and was punished (ban from baseball, prison sentence for tax evasion). He has paid his penalty, and continues to do so. Forgive him, yes. Forgiving does not mean he must be restored to Major League Baseball’s good graces. Forgiving does not mean he is entitled to a place in the Hall of Fame.

    The Rose apologists will never understand his fundamental sin against baseball. He gambled on games of a team he was managing. It’s such an obvious sin against baseball, but these folks just don’t want to understand. I don’t get the impression that Rose himself understands. Sad, really.

    • largebill - Apr 30, 2014 at 7:37 AM

      That is basically what I was going to post. Forgiveness is not related to mitigation of an offense or removal of sanctions. I know a lady who struggled with anger after her daughter was killed by a drunk driver. It took time and lots of prayer, but she found the strength to forgive the driver. Her sincere forgiveness was something she needed to do to restore her sanity and live without stress of being constantly angry. Her forgiveness had nothing to do with the driver’s situation.

  5. pbastille - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM

    He says inducted, I say indicted, let’s call the whole thing off

  6. thomas844 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    Craig was actually the one who banned Sterling for life. Silver just took the credit for it.

  7. DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    “Never has any leader had a more loyal and dogged fighting force doing his work for him.”

    I just had an epiphany….if all of us stop making the case for Rose and turn on him….it’s only a matter of time ’till we get you making the case for him, Chief!

    Screw Rose – and you know what else? HE DID NOT RESPECT THE GAME! Shouting at Nolan Ryan “You don’t have enough runs” in Game 5 of the NLCS. You don’t do that – you DON”T DO THAT!! The unwritten rules are VERY clear on that point!

    P.S. please ban everyone who is not picking up on the joke

  8. paco53 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    This “story” should not have been written. Craig C. stirred the pot by bringing up Pete Rose. Why bother? Just let it lie. He complains about other writers complaining about him. So-called “stories” like this lessen Mr. C’s credibility.

  9. paul621 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    What the heck does “Truther” even mean in this context?

    • [citation needed] fka COPO - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:38 PM

      moron

      • Kevin S. - Apr 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM

        Isn’t that what it means in every context?

  10. vmu2 - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    Craig sure likes to include himself in his own stories.

    • Old Gator - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:36 PM

      He’s a big Alfred Hitchcock fan, too.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:59 PM

        If you want the kids to understand you, you have to say Tarantino.

      • dcarroll73 - Apr 30, 2014 at 1:14 AM

        What the MacGuffin are you talking about? Besides Craig does NOT have a profile (or girth) that lends itself to that sort of cameo “walk by”.

      • peymax1693 - Apr 30, 2014 at 8:41 AM

        I thought I saw Craig in a pop-up ad the appeared on this site.
        Oh wait, it was just David Cross.

  11. watchfullhose - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    He’s doing Gods work

  12. thetruthstings - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    Craig you are an idiot! You need to find another job!!! YOUR FIRED!!!

    • historiophiliac - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:30 PM

      *you’re

      –goodspellingstings

      • raysfan1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:38 PM

        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwEuCxOT2O0

    • dcarroll73 - Apr 30, 2014 at 1:18 AM

      You forgot to sign it, “Donald Trump, richest (and maybe dumbest) Truther of them all.”

  13. schmedley69 - Apr 29, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    Pete shouldn’t be allowed to hold any position of power in baseball every again, but he should be eligible for the HOF (let the Veteran’s Committee decide his fate) and he should be allowed to attend ceremonies (Reds/Phillies World Series reunions, etc).

    Pete has stated that his main goal is to get back into baseball so that he can be a manager again (presumably for the money), so preventing him from doing that is punishment enough.

    Not allowing him in the HOF or to attend ceremonies is punishing the fans more than it is punishing Pete. There are a lot of fans who still love Pete and appreciate his on-field accomplishments. Pete was a great player who did a lot for the game. There is still good in him. I can feel it.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:12 PM

      Look – if baseball said something didn’t happen, it didn’t happen. Stop arguing that it did happen!

  14. asimonetti88 - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    I honestly don’t care if Rose can or can’t be around baseball, but it seems to me like he should be in the Hall of Fame. He was certainly a great player.

    • largebill - Apr 30, 2014 at 7:41 AM

      Joe Jackson was a better player. Doesn’t matter.

  15. yahmule - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    How can they keep him out? Just look at that face.

  16. yahmule - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    Do you know what happened immediately after his play?

    Pete Rose’s thumb ligaments felt great!

  17. American of African Descent - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    Here’s the challenge I have with Pete Rose and the Hall of Fame: For over a decade, Mr. Rose insisted he never bet on baseball. Then he admitted to betting on baseball, but that he never bet on the Reds. Then he admitted to betting on the Reds, but only to win. What is he going to admit tomorrow?

    It wasn’t the crime of gambling on baseball—people would have eventually gotten over that. It was the cover up.

  18. andreboy1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:35 PM

    I’ve never met a man named craig who also wasn’t a douchebag.

  19. jm91rs - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    I’m sick of all the serious posts, sick of every article being something we have to debate. Time to look for humor in cheesy old commercials.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkb6r5aRa0Y

    • jm91rs - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:47 PM

      Ps, don’t ban me, they aren’t really talking about penises

  20. bengalsucker - Apr 30, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Pete won’t be inducted until he’s gone from this earth. The MLB and HOF won’t give him the personal satisfaction of accepting the honor of being inducted into the HOF. At this point, it’s personal. No chance in hell he’s inducted before he dies.

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