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The Tigers rescheduled a game to accommodate the NFL

May 9, 2014, 8:23 AM EDT

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Now: watch the football people act all dumb about it.

You’ll recall last year that the NFL and its water carriers in the media got all huffy when the Baltimore Orioles would not reschedule a game that conflicted with the Baltimore Ravens’ desired Thursday night home opener.

This angered them because the Super Bowl champion opening at home on Thursday night has a long rich tradition lasting at least, like, a couple of years. And because baseball is dying and the NFL rules and why don’t you pencil neck baseball people just do the right thing and get the hell out of the NFL’s way even though your game was scheduled months before ours?

Really, go back and read that Michael Silver post at Yahoo. It was one of the more obnoxious and, ultimately, more wrong things written by a professional sports talking person in several years.

Anyway, we have a baseball-football conflict again. Or at least we had one. The Detroit Tigers had an evening game scheduled against the Royals for Monday, September 8. The Lions were granted the Monday Night Football Game that night, however, and since the Tigers and Lions stadiums are literally right next to each other it would’ve been a mess for both to play that night. The Tigers rescheduled their game to a 4PM start, though, solving the problem before anyone could get mad about it.

While that conflict lasted approximately five seconds before being resolved, there was already room for some snark from our NFL friends and commenters at PFT, saying things like “see, that wasn’t so hard, take note Baltimore” and the like. What our NFL friends and commenters are missing, however, is that the Tigers and Orioles were in very different situations with respect to the conflict, making the resolution of their respective scheduling problems totally different things.

The Tigers game is smack dab in the middle of a six-game homestand and the game against the Royals is the first of a three-game set. It’s the simplest of all things for the Tigers to unilaterally move the game up and, because the Lions and Tigers play well together for the most part, they did so willingly. A totally easy call and a totally right call.

Last year, however, both the Orioles and their opponent, the Chicago White Sox, were are coming in to Baltimore off the road following night games and thus weren’t even getting into town until the wee hours of that Thursday morning, making a day game a pretty unreasonable proposition. Likewise, rescheduling that game as a doubleheader would’ve required union, league and Chicago White Sox signoff, and there was resistance to that. While, in an ideal world the Orioles make way for the Ravens, if doing so is not a simple proposition it’s not reasonable to expect them to do it.

So, different situations resolved differently and, in both cases, quite reasonably. Especially considering that baseball set its schedule months before the NFL did. If that inspires you to throw shade at the Orioles over what happened next year, well, I suppose you have the right to. You’re just misapprehending the facts of the matter. And, in all likelihood, operating from an assumption that the entire world lives to serve the NFL’s interests.

That’s not the case. Not yet anyway.

  1. NatsLady - May 9, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    I like “the simplest of all thins…” :) It was thin going…

  2. paperlions - May 9, 2014 at 8:29 AM

    You can keep fanning, but there isn’t even any smoke coming off of this issue, much less any fire.

    • Craig Calcaterra - May 9, 2014 at 8:52 AM

      Read the PFT post. The fire may not last long, but they framed it in terms of “Dumb Orioles”

      • paperlions - May 9, 2014 at 9:13 AM

        Well, consider how many baseball writers there are for which it would be inaccurate to state that their opinions every reflect the general consensus of baseball writers, baseball fans, MLB itself, players, or FO personnel. That group of writers is actually quite large, I would guess, those the reasons to generally ignore their opinions differs among writers.

        The general tone of PFT writers most certainly don’t reflect the general attitude in football. In general, they are like a bunch of Buster Olney’s (gossipy, lots of high horses, lots of logical inconsistency).

        So….just because your PFT analogs say dumb things that reflect their views but not those of a large group of people, doesn’t mean you have to rise to the bait. I am a HUGE football fan and talk about football with many groups of people (including people scattered across the country and world in any of my too many fantasy football leagues, I am still in 9 leagues, I think, will little overlap in league members)…and the next time someone even mentions the MLB-NFL scheduling issues will be the first.

  3. historiophiliac - May 9, 2014 at 8:32 AM

    Let’s not forget too that showing mercy to the Lions is a great kindness — a magnanimous gesture to those below us.

    • paperlions - May 9, 2014 at 9:13 AM


      • historiophiliac - May 9, 2014 at 10:12 AM

        There, there, paper. It’s okay.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - May 9, 2014 at 9:47 AM

      First the DH, and now selling out to the NFL?? What the hell is going on??

      • historiophiliac - May 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM

        I know you’re not calling *me* a sell-out.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - May 9, 2014 at 11:50 AM

        Not you, just your Tigers

      • historiophiliac - May 9, 2014 at 12:36 PM

        It’s called “graciousness,” Phan. I know you’re unfamiliar. 😉

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - May 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM

        That’s what Hitler said during the Anschluss – just trying to graciously help the Austrians.

      • girardisbraces - May 9, 2014 at 1:18 PM

        That was a short walk to Godwin’s Law….

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - May 9, 2014 at 1:20 PM

        And a very intentional one 😉

      • historiophiliac - May 9, 2014 at 1:53 PM

        Are we racing now?

  4. Francisco (FC) - May 9, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    So far what I’ve learned from this is that cats play nice together but birds don’t get along unless they have the same feather.

    • dluxxx - May 9, 2014 at 9:58 AM


  5. indaburg - May 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM

    “there was already room for some snark from our NFL friends and commenters at PFT”

    With friends like those…
    The situations are different but that would take them scratching under the surface to see. It still seems like the Tigers game might end when the Lions game begins, and then hilarity will ensue.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - May 9, 2014 at 3:29 PM

      Raise your hand if you hope the Tigers game goes, like, 16 innings.

  6. trbmb - May 9, 2014 at 9:11 AM

    You just have to laugh at these NFL clowns and their egos. They really do believe NFL Football is a phenomena. Very recently a New York football writer declared football as the ‘most popular sport in the world’. Yup, a game that is pretty much only played in the USA and is ‘staffed’ almost entirely by Americans. We are the world.

    • zzalapski - May 9, 2014 at 9:21 AM

      If you sensed your sport was on the edge of a decline precipitated by medical concerns, you’d be insecure too.

    • joeflaccosunibrow - May 9, 2014 at 9:25 AM

      Football is declining IMO. They tinker with loads of rules every offseason so the first few weeks, most of us (including the refs) are adjusting to this years rules.

      Most importantly, the biggest reason people watch was for the ferociousness of the tackling. Now if you fart on the player while tackling, it’s a 15 yard personal foul.

      • Francisco (FC) - May 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM

        Considering what they eat, any kind of fart might qualify for a 15 yard personal foul, tackling or not.

  7. southernballhawk1 - May 9, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    You couldn’t make me watch an NFL game, such BS.

  8. rbj1 - May 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    OK, 4 pm game. Say it takes 3 hours, meaning fans leave at 7:15 pm. Lions game starts at 8:30 pm. So, there’s what, an hour for Tigers fans to vacate the area and Lions fans to fill up the area? 35,000 leaving and 100,000 entering an area in one hour?It still isn’t going to be pretty.

    I’ve gone to Tigers games when U Michigan was at home. That was unpleasant even though Ann Arbor is a bit away. Traffic is still going to be a mess.

    • normcash - May 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM

      The actual numbers: the Tigers will probably have a sellout—@ 42,000. The Lions will also
      sellout—@65,000. No doubt several thousand of the Tigers fans will also attend the Lions game
      which will merely require walking across the street. So, the problem isn’t all that bad, although I can envision some congestion getting in and out of nearby parking lots…

  9. Bob - May 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Craig, you really need to relax. And a lot of us who like baseball also like football. I don’t see why it has to be an “us vs. them” mentality.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - May 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM

      I like football too, but in defense of CC, I think his point is that it should not be “us vs. them”, it should be worked to a mutual satisfaction.

      But sure, he is having fun taking a poke at the PFT people and Michael Silver, and perhaps he should more clear that that is the “football people” he is talking about.

    • dluxxx - May 9, 2014 at 10:13 AM

      Agreed. I’ll be honest. I love baseball, but I probably follow football much more closely. I know more football players, know more of the rules (even the new ones) and generally enjoy watching the games of teams that aren’t my “home team”. I love football.

      However, I do not love PFT. I follow the “don’t read the comments” rule on PFT. I’ll get some info from there occasionally, but if I want to interact with others on a sports board, this is the place for it.

      I love baseball as well, but I can’t say all of the same things. Specifically, I don’t enjoy watching baseball enough to watch games that don’t involve the Twins. I’ll watch the Twins, win or lose, but I probably only watch a few hours of other teams’ games throughout the season. Does this make me a heathen? Sure, but don’t belittle the fact that I can love more than one sport.

      This isn’t Highlander. There *can* be more than one.

      • historiophiliac - May 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM


        /throws peanuts

      • paperlions - May 9, 2014 at 10:27 AM

        I’m in the same boat, though, maybe not rowing the same direction or in perfect time with you. I can watch almost any NFL game as long as the football itself doesn’t suck. I can watch many baseball games that don’t involve the Cardinals, but I do need a rooting interest or a interesting player to watch in the game….I won’t watch the Mariners play the Astros, but I can watch pretty much any game involving an NL Central team, any game in which there is a starting pitcher where I just want to see what he can do (Fernandez, Tanaka, Darvish, Max, Verlander, Strasburg, Ventura, Harvey, etc.), or games that have players I heard a lot about but haven’t seen much (e.g. Abreu)….but I know and care far more about baseball players of all teams and about baseball analytics than I do about their football counterparts.

        Football is starting to become fatiguing….like it never goes away, which makes the start of the season less fun to anticipate.

    • lukedunphysscienceproject - May 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM

      I hope you took the time to click the link to the PFT post before you posted that condescending comment, Bob. The PFT writer took an obnoxious shot at Baltimore while ignoring all of the things that make the two situations very, very different. There is nothing at all wrong with CC writing an article correcting the record.

      • paperlions - May 9, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        The problem is that Craig wrote it as if the PFT writer represents some general attitude rather than just his own opinion…it would be like PFT citing Boswell as evidence that everyone in baseball is still in the stone age with respect to analysis and understanding a sport.

  10. renaado - May 9, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Tch, just stupid. Why the heck are they rescheduling it? Just because this NFL game as you call it has the same schedule as them? Other teams in the MLB not just the Tigers should play their own organized schedule here and not give in to em. Really hope this doesn’t happen again if somethin like this occurs.

  11. philliesblow - May 9, 2014 at 10:25 AM

    Can it really be considered an NFL game when the Lions are involved?

    • normcash - May 9, 2014 at 1:03 PM

      This will be early enough in the season that Lions fans (myself included) can still nurse the illusion that the team might do well…it’s the stage of the year where Charlie Brown is running
      toward the ball Lucy is spotting. The swipe-away and pratfall will be an early November event,
      cushioned by the afterglow of the Tigers World Series victory! 😉

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