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Oscar Taveras could be called up by June 4

May 22, 2014, 1:00 PM EDT

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Cardinals GM John Mozeliak said yesterday that stud prospect Oscar Taveras “could possibly” be called up when the club begins a stretch in American League ballparks on June 4. Presumably to play DH, or to share it with Allen Craig and Matt Adams as Taveras plays in the outfield.

Sometimes it feels like Taveras has been around forever, but the dude doesn’t turn 22 until next month. Which is pretty darn young for a guy to be abusing Triple-A pitchers the way he has been. He’s hitting .313/.361/.512 with six homers in 180 plate appearances this season, and has been scorching hot his past ten games, hitting .390/.422/.585.

  1. SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Yeah, Derrick Gould at the P-D suggested that a couple of weeks ago. That said, it’s easier to get playing time if you’re one of “Matheny’s guys.”

    • paperlions - May 22, 2014 at 1:30 PM

      You still have to produce. DD is one of “Matheny’s guys” and he’s barely played this year. Like most managers, Matheny is subject to small samples, but if he comes up and produces…he’ll stay up and in the lineup. The way Craig is hitting, and Adam’s weakness against lefties, platooning those 2 at 1B and starting Taveras in RF makes a lot of sense.

      • SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        Tis true; I agree on the platooning. That said, on the “my guys,” per my blog link, Bernie Miklasz has been saying this for some time.

      • paperlions - May 22, 2014 at 2:11 PM

        Eh, I try to avoid the local rumor mongers, as they are mostly pedaling just that due to the extensive amount of material they are required to produce.

        I am not a Matheny fan at all with respect to his tactical machinations, but there are few times when you could say that a guy that is getting playing time is doing so at the expense of a better player. Jay is a “Matheny guy”, yet, Bourjos started the year in CF and once he figured things out a bit at the plate, he’s been in there almost every day. The Wong thing was odd, but the guy that played when he was sent down was Ellis, not DD….and since Wong came back he’s been in there daily.

        If anything, Matheny is guilty of sticking with guys that have produced for him before or recently, giving him more confidence in them and being less confident in new players that are struggling….which is a pretty typical human trait.

      • SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 2:30 PM

        Well, Bernie’s a pretty good analyst in my book. That said, I’ve never totally trusted either Matheny or Mo since the lies/mismanagements/WTFs of Shelby Miller in last year’s postseason.

      • paperlions - May 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM

        Bernie? Analyst?

        Can you give me some examples of “Matheny Guys” getting PT that should have gone to some other, better player?

        Because if there aren’t any example, then it is just fabrication.

        The Miller stuff is media driven hype. They didn’t tell anyone the reasons for shutting him down. He obviously wasn’t the same pitcher and they were trying to win, and it was clear he wouldn’t give them the best chance at winning. The only odd thing is that he was even on the post-season rosters.

        They are not required to tell the public the extent of anyone’s injury or the reasons for any of their decisions.

      • SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 2:55 PM

        That’s a pretty big “only.” Either another pitcher or another bat, especially with the DL in games in Boston, could have been important.

        No, they’re not “required” to tell the public anything. But, when you’re not fooling the Red Sox, why make yourselves look like idiots to your own fans?

        As for the rest, I’m sure you know the link to the P-D’s website. If you don’t care for Bernie, or other columnists, that’s your choice.

      • paperlions - May 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        All I am asking for is evidence that Matheny plays guys that don’t deserve the PT over guys that are better because one group of them are “his guys”. It isn’t a question of whose theory it is, it is a question of evidence for the theory.

        What is the evidence?

      • SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 4:03 PM

        I’ve got one clear example. Why is Carlos Martinez not a starter, even tho Joe Kelly’s DL has now lasted far longer than one or two games?


        As for Descalso, assuming that’s the DD. Red herring. The reason he’s playing less this year is called Jhonny Peralta.

      • okwhitefalcon - May 22, 2014 at 4:20 PM

        I have never bought the “Matheny’s guys (not narrative) angle Miklasz has been peddling – it’s fodder for clicks – that’s it.

        Beyond game management, Matheny is a functioning mechanism of Mo. The Cards are a linear organization and anyone who thinks Mo doesn’t have a hand in who plays and who doesn’t is absolutely fooling themselves – Miklasz included.

        As for Taveras, Mo gave a no holds barred assessment of him to the guys on AM 920’s “The Drive Home” yesterday – it’s a great listen, very candid on may fronts.

        Listen here:

      • paperlions - May 22, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        As always, thanks for the link. When time allows, I read a Goold chat once in a while, especially during the off-season, but it is hard to find links to the radio spots….so I really appreciate you posting them when Mo is on…he’s usually entertaining and engaging.

      • okwhitefalcon - May 22, 2014 at 4:42 PM

        You’re welcome.

        Mo’s a fascinating guy, a wry wit and always interesting to listen to.

        Cards fans should enjoy him while we can, he has aspirations higher than his current responsibilities and those opportunities will surely arise (either in STL) or somewhere else sooner than later.

      • paperlions - May 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM

        Yeah, I fully expect to feel like he left too soon, while also not realizing that he’d been on the job for so long.

        He’s like having a dog. You love the guy, probably don’t appreciate him enough, and know that you’ll out live him. It’s sad.

  2. ud1951 - May 22, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    And as hot as you claim he is, he has not been as hot as at least two other hitters on the team, both of whom had turns at the big club and did not play much and did not hit. Another guy, Shane Robinson, got sent down and hit .371/.443/.435 for an .871 OPS in 70 PA after hitting just .100 for the big club and they brought him back. Kolten Wong hit .344/.382/.484 in Memphis and .250/.303/.304 in StL.

    Apparently scorching pitching in the PCL is not a reliable indicator of major league success. OT is a legitimate prospect, but the jury is out as to whether he will help the team this year or not.

    • beepbeepbeeplgb - May 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM

      u mention scorching hot prospects , you can’t forget Grichuk. Dude has been raking since he got sent back down.

      • beepbeepbeeplgb - May 22, 2014 at 1:40 PM

        also i don’t really understand your logic, shane robinson has had one ab since he got sent down and wong has hit in every game since returning.

    • SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 2:08 PM

      The PCL is known as a hitters’ league. That’s in part because 6 of the 16 teams have a “Denver effect” from playing at 3,000 feet or above.

      • ud1951 - May 22, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        True, however, Memphis has only played in CSprings 7 times this season and has not been ABQ, Vegas, Reno or SLC yet, don’t know what other city you think has the Denver effect, but unless it is OKC, they haven’t been farther west than that (in addition to CSprings).

      • SocraticGadfly - May 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM

        You forgot El Paso … it’s above 3K feet, high enough for some sort of Denver effect.

      • ud1951 - May 23, 2014 at 1:22 PM

        They haven’t been there either. But the Redbirds have been lighting up CSprings. The rest of their hitting has come down here on Mother Earth, mostly along the Mississippi River. And beepbeep, Grichuk was one of the two other guys I was referring to that were outhitting OT.

  3. apkyletexas - May 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    This is not my definition of abusing pitchers: .313/.361/.512.

    Not bad, but he’s in the minors – doesn’t prove anything.

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