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Andrew Cashner on Wrigley Field: “It’s a dump . . . it’s bad.”

May 23, 2014, 8:25 AM EDT

Jason Aldean Press Conference AP

Former Cub and current Padres pitcher Andrew Cashner didn’t mince words when asked about Wrigley Field yesterday:

“We’re spoiled here,” Cashner, a former Cubs pitcher, said of Petco Park. “We have some of the best facilities in baseball.

“And Wrigley, it’s a dump . . . It’s bad”

It’s certainly outdated, as the linked story by Mark Gonzales of the Tribune makes clear via comparisons with modern facilities like Petco. At Wrigley, for example, they drape a net in the clubhouse and set a batting tee in front of it for guys to take hacks during the game. Most modern parks have indoor cages not far from the dugout.

Wrigley is in a big renovation fight, obviously, thus the quest for comment. I presume that in a few years, however, the place will be just dandy.

  1. baberuthslegs - May 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    What do you expect from a park that opened in 1914?

    You know, I am aching for these millionaires who have to hit off a tee in
    an old baseball grounds’ clubhouse. Dudes, suck it up and count your blessings.

    • clydeserra - May 23, 2014 at 9:00 AM

      they are not all millionaires.

      • crackersnap - May 23, 2014 at 11:09 AM

        With a current minimum salary of $500,000 per year,that’s their fault.

      • gloccamorra - May 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM

        They’re not only not all millionaires, even those who are don’t get to keep a chunk of it. They have to pay a percentage to an agent, and they likely need an accountant to keep track of all the taxes they pay to every state they play in. When Derek Jeter played not only in Anaheim and Oakland, but in LA and San Diego in interleague play, he became one of the top 5% of California taxpayers.

  2. mdpickles - May 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM

    Some people just don’t understand art. Mr. Cashner is one of them.

    • ezthinking - May 23, 2014 at 10:04 AM

      Because something is old, doesn’t make it art. Or enjoyable, or efficient, or attractive or …

      • Old Gator - May 23, 2014 at 10:56 AM

        Well then, let’s call it primitive art. Like, you know, the architectural equivalent of Lascaux or Dordogne – although, to be fair, there is, blessedly, no mammoth hunting going on at Wrigley, and you can walk to Girodano’s for a stuffed spinach special pizza from the ballpark after a loss.

  3. Old Gator - May 23, 2014 at 8:46 AM

    Well, that’s the park. Now let’s talk about the team.

    • umrguy42 - May 23, 2014 at 8:54 AM

      The team can be summarized with “it’s worse”.

      • Old Gator - May 23, 2014 at 10:58 AM

        Yeah, well. I had hoped to live long enough to see the Cubs win a world series but I have had to admit to myself that I probably won’t even be dead long enough to see it.

      • jimeejohnson - May 23, 2014 at 12:48 PM

        Another Gator classic.

    • 1981titan - May 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM

      This team is really disappointing. I was hoping that they could make Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis look like prophets with their “Cubs win the Pennant” marquee in 1989’s Back to the Future II”

      • bfunk1978 - May 23, 2014 at 11:48 AM

        You’ve got until next year. IT’s not until 2015 that they beat Miami in the World Series.

      • mazblast - May 26, 2014 at 1:17 AM

        bfunk, that’d be hard to do, considering the Cubs and Miami are in the same league.

  4. aresachaela - May 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM

    Who wants to ship this guy to Oakland? Say aye!

    • clydeserra - May 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM

      We”re good over here, thanks.

      • daveitsgood - May 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM

        now hold on… let’s not be too hasty. Maybe if they’re willing to take Gregerson back. I’m sure he’s been making fast friends in the bullpen allowing 7 of 11 inherited runners to score so far.

    • renaado - May 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM

      Aye! Don’t.

      • aresachaela - May 23, 2014 at 9:22 AM

        -.- … ZZzz. I’ll take that as an aye.

  5. makinflowers - May 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    Speaking as a lifelong Cubs fan who has been to hundreds of games and as someone who has worked at Wrigley Field, I can unequivocally say that unless you are sitting in your seat, staring out at one of the most beautiful scenes in baseball, the place is a dump. If you never had to get to your seat or leave your seat, it would be perfect.

  6. tfilarski - May 23, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    As a Cubs fan, this isn’t new news…everyone knows that the place is out of date and a dumb. Pick your poison, buy a ticket for a seat behind a pillar or watch the concrete fall from above.

  7. jimmyt - May 23, 2014 at 9:28 AM

    Cubs are going nowhere untill they part with at least two of their dumb traditions. Wrigley and all those day games. Sorry purist but that’s the way it is.

  8. paperlions - May 23, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    This is kind of the point though…isn’t it? Any renovations will just be a temporary fix. The place needs to be replaced. I doubt there is even room in the thing for anything approaching modern facilities. The Cubs would be much better off building their own park and leaving Wrigley. Sell it to the city to be used as a museum and for little league/HS games and such.

    • deepstblu - May 23, 2014 at 10:11 AM

      More than a full city block of land, served directly by the L and two bus lines, in a North Side lakefront neighborhood? The developers’ tongues are hanging out of their mouths at the thought. Museum? Say hello to the Wrigleyville Condoplex!

      • Old Gator - May 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM

        I like the idea of an accursed condo complex. It’d be like the Amityville Horror House writ large, and a pisstake on all those viral plague movies as the prion-vectored brain disease die Vloek van der Geitbock circulates through the air conditioning system….

      • paperlions - May 23, 2014 at 10:38 AM

        It is a designated historical landmark, I rather doubt it’ll be coming down any time soon whether it houses a MLB team or not.

      • dcarroll73 - May 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM

        so paper, what you’re saying is that it will be a permanently perserved spot haunted by an insane, vengeful, undead goat who will exact retribution on Chicago for all time to come? Nice!

      • gloccamorra - May 23, 2014 at 5:52 PM

        paperlions, a designated historical landmark is no protection at all. Structures on the National Register are torn down all the time.

    • johnnysoda - May 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM

      However, I’m sure that the Cubs make a lot of money off of Wrigley ticket sales, simply because people want to come out there and see a baseball landmark.

      If they went somewhere else, I wouldn’t be surprised to see White Sox-esque attendance figures.

      • paperlions - May 23, 2014 at 12:01 PM

        The people buying tickets for that one-time experience represent a tiny portion of Cubs ticket sales. Just being able to have more night games will boost attendance…heck, just having a park that can hold up to 50K would allow attendance to increase. Not to mention all of the money they could make by having better seating and ticket options than they can have in that old run down park.

        Teams make their money from repeat customers, not from 1-timers.

      • dcarroll73 - May 23, 2014 at 4:33 PM

        Is there some reason inherent to the structure of Wrigley the prevents clever modernzations a la Fenway? We’re talking about two parks built in the same era, but Fenway put in the seats above the Green Monster and over the grandstand (as well as improving amenities.). The club also put a team on the field that people wanted to see. I went to BU in the early 1970s, and I assure you that Fenway could have been described as a dump then (we still LOVED it even as Yankee fans.) I will point out that at that time the park was about the same age as Shea at its end, and when I attended games there, it was in worse condition (so much for progress over planned obsolescence.) As a disinterested (but not uninterested) baseball fan, I REALLY hope that they can update Wrigley.

  9. uwsptke - May 23, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    It should be replaced, not renovated. Renovations are for stadiums that are structurally sound with championship history (Fenway Park, Lambeau Field). And even then, sometimes building a new stadium near the old one while keeping the name isn’t taboo either (the New Busch & Yankee stadiums). There have been zero championships won by the Cubs in that stadium, and financially it just makes sense to move out of “Wrigleyville” and establish a new entertainment district.

    I understand the nostalgia, but the franchise is limiting the revenue opportunities by staying in that confined area. What the Packers did with Lambeau field is ideal. They turned an ordinary looking stadium that only brought in revenue 10-12 days a year into a year-round attraction with a team Hall of Fame, restaurants/pubs, stores, etc. Then they purchased acres of land around the stadium and are slowly transforming the entire area into a shopping & entertainment district (the team is the landlord for the new Cabella’s that opened last year).

    • crackersnap - May 23, 2014 at 11:20 AM

      You could probably purchase all of Green Bay, Wisconsin with the amount of money necessary to buy up just “acres of land around” Wrigley Field, Chicago.

      • uwsptke - May 23, 2014 at 12:03 PM

        That’s not what I was suggesting. I said they need to “move out of ‘Wrigleyville’ and establish a new entertainment district.” They are obviously strapped for space in the current locale. Build a new stadium where it would make sense, and then build up the area around it.

      • gloccamorra - May 23, 2014 at 6:00 PM

        As I said elsewhere, disassemble what can be removed and relocate south to industrial land near U.S. Cellular Field on a larger footprint with modern amenities. They can even take cuttings of the ivy and grow it on the new site.

  10. dibacco88 - May 23, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    I’ve been to Wrigley for 3 games. All 3 were magical and made me feel like a little boy again. It tugs on my heart strings bigtime. I haven’t felt that at any of the other modern parks I’ve been to in NY, Detroit, Toronto, Cleveland, etc, and I’m sure you don’t get that feeling in San Diago. I reallllllly don’t care if the players have to sit in a brick locker room with no hitting nets. Wrigley must stay.

  11. tfilarski - May 23, 2014 at 11:56 AM

    Ivy grows just as nice in Rosemont as it does in Chicago. With the recent developments, I do like how Chicago politics (minus dumb Ald. Tom Tunney) is backing ownership to give them the backing they need to privately renovate the stadium and arena. The ordinances are starting to get more and more lenient in terms of night games and concerts to generate revenue

    • jimeejohnson - May 23, 2014 at 12:50 PM

      Chicago politics: one of the most filthy things in this world.

      • jimeejohnson - May 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM

        Even dirtier than DirtyHarry, may he rest in the fecal matter that IS New Yawk.

  12. chicagokman - May 23, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    So sayeth a losing pitcher, on a losing team that just lost to a worse team, that can’t keep himself healthy. Hell, his MRI didn’t even show any structural issues – it’s just sore, mommy, don’t make me pitch against those guys that practice off of tees!

    • gloccamorra - May 23, 2014 at 6:05 PM

      Are you talking about when he was a Cub?

  13. echech88 - May 23, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    Are we really arguing his point? As a fan Wrigley is fantastic. As an employee? Different story.

    Imagine going to work for a new company and all your computers were from 1998 with dial-up modem. After a while it might get annoying and frustrating no matter how prestigious the company.

  14. swu32733 - May 24, 2014 at 12:17 AM

    Andrew Cashner is a chump. He’s sad.

    • mazblast - May 26, 2014 at 1:20 AM

      And a better pitcher than anyone on the Cubs not named Samardzija.

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